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Ben Nelson:Dems may have to abandon comprehensive health bill,go step-by-step(Cornhusker Kickback)
The Hill ^ | 2/26/10 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 02/26/2010 2:08:40 PM PST by mdittmar

Democrats may have to abandon their effort for comprehensive healthcare legislation in favor of a piecemeal approach, Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) said Friday.

Nelson, a centrist Democrat whose vote is critical to the fate of healthcare reform in the Senate, said that while he's inclined to support a majority-vote maneuver to pass a bill, he's unsure Senate Democrats will be able to do so.

"I don't know if we can get a comprehensive bill through," Nelson said during an interview on KLIN radio in Nebraska. "Honestly, I just don't know."

"We may be forced to doing healthcare -- to use my analogy -- by making a pie a piece at a time, which is typically not the preferred way to handle legislation," the senator added. "But this is so big, and has so many moving parts and has so many supporters and detractors, that maybe that's the only thing you can do. Grab a piece of it here, grab a piece of it there and try to put together as much of it as you can."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bennelson
How much for Nelsons vote?
1 posted on 02/26/2010 2:08:40 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

‘Moving on up..

to the top...

to a deeeelux apartment in the skkkkkyyyyy...

We finally got our piece of the piiiieeeeeee.


2 posted on 02/26/2010 2:10:52 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: mdittmar
I don't know if we can get a comprehensive bill through," Nelson said...Honestly, I just don't know."

Translation: This one's gonna cost Reid big-time and it's gonna be guaranteed non-removable in reconciliation!

3 posted on 02/26/2010 2:11:26 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Freepmail me to get on the Bourbon ping list.)
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To: mdittmar
Nelson's full of crap. With reconciliation on the table, it will allow him and Landriu and Lincoln to vote against it. This, of course, will have the effect of easing the concerns of their idiotic moderate voters in their respective states. Nelson will be able to look like a "conservative Democrat", just like the script says.
4 posted on 02/26/2010 2:15:03 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: mdittmar

If they go reconciliation, they can give Nelson a free pass to vote against the bill, even criticize it publicly. Reid and Obama will probably actually ENCOURAGE him to do so to help preserve his political standing in Nebraska. Then 50 democrats from safer seats can take the plunge and Obama can get his monument, and the average Joe Blow thinks Nelson “stood on principle”.


5 posted on 02/26/2010 2:16:20 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: mdittmar
"Nelson, a centrist Democrat whose vote is critical to the fate of healthcare reform in the Senate, said that while he's inclined to support a majority-vote maneuver to pass a bill..."

"Centrist" defined as a Democrat "inclined" to take extreme undemocratic steps to ram through unconstitutional legislation that people hate.

I wonder what they consider to be a "liberal" Democrat? Would you have to go all the way to Ho Chi Minh City for an example?

7 posted on 02/26/2010 2:17:55 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. " George Orwell)
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To: OldDeckHand

Correct..but it won’t work..he be toast...


8 posted on 02/26/2010 2:18:17 PM PST by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: mdittmar

Hey Ben,
Better bone up on your typing skills pal.
You can dance any way you care to pal but your resume needs to be updated cause you are gonna be out of work ya pos.


9 posted on 02/26/2010 2:19:26 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy.)
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To: mdittmar

And what was revealed yesterday is that the other Nelson from Florida managed his own sleazy deal. The seniors in his area will get to keep their Medicare Advantage.

Everyone else will lose theirs.


10 posted on 02/26/2010 2:20:58 PM PST by Carley
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To: mdittmar

I think Nelson will have to go for his Plan B... build a time machine to go back a few months and switch his original vote from “yes” to “no” on HC.


11 posted on 02/26/2010 2:21:31 PM PST by Cheap_Hessian (I am the Grim FReeper.)
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To: Joe Boucher
Ben Nelson's dog in this fight is the anti-trust exemption. He is bought and paid by the insurance companies, he held firm the last vote until it was changed.

Expect the same now.

12 posted on 02/26/2010 2:23:11 PM PST by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: ElPatriota

I couldn’t agree with ya more El,
but you may be visited by some gub mint thugs for implying.
I have to think a lot of crap ass socialist dems should be targeted.
Ya think the secret service is busy about now?


13 posted on 02/26/2010 2:23:35 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy.)
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To: mdittmar

“Democrats may have to abandon their effort for comprehensive healthcare legislation in favor of a piecemeal approach,”

It’s called ‘PROGRESSIVE - ISM”


14 posted on 02/26/2010 2:26:18 PM PST by WorkerbeeCitizen ( If Obama is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

He is still toast. This could have been stopped the first time and he didn’t do it. Who cares if those lookng for cover vote against it this time. Its the first time that everyone will remember. He made his bed.


15 posted on 02/26/2010 2:26:26 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: OldDeckHand
With reconciliation on the table, it will allow him and Landriu and Lincoln to vote against it.

He has already voted for it. The senate bill is final if they take the reconciliation route.

16 posted on 02/26/2010 2:27:25 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: Carley

Carley,
If I posted the emails I’ve sent bill Nelson in the last few weeks I’d b banned forever from F.R.
I’m surprised the secret service hasn’t visited me yet.
No threats but man have i been nasty to that pos.


17 posted on 02/26/2010 2:28:16 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Yeah, I think I got the point...(picture pulled) Although I was only speaking FIGURATIVELY :)


18 posted on 02/26/2010 2:30:11 PM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church (...Actually I'm hearing MORE from RCC now! ....) ** DEAFENING **)
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To: ColdWater
"The senate bill is final if they take the reconciliation route. "

The Reconciliation bill is what would be final. The vote on that bill will only require 50 votes.

19 posted on 02/26/2010 2:32:13 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: ElPatriota

It has happened to me several times too.
Ya been put in tie out yet here?
Usually for slamming Israel.
And I’m a big Israel supporter.


20 posted on 02/26/2010 2:33:29 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Not entirely true winoneforthegipper.
It had a lot to do with abortion support in this bad bill too,
And Nelson claimed he’d NEVER back anything with that kind of crap in it.
He LIED.


21 posted on 02/26/2010 2:36:22 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy.)
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To: mdittmar

This is the only way that the Democrats don’t have a total blood bath on their hands in November.

I hope they continue to be stubborn Marxist and try to put the whole thing across the goal line.


22 posted on 02/26/2010 2:37:08 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: mdittmar

Ex-Senator “Baby Killer” Nelson


23 posted on 02/26/2010 2:37:29 PM PST by JohnLongIsland ( schmuckie schucks)
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To: OldDeckHand
The Reconciliation bill is what would be final. The vote on that bill will only require 50 votes.

The president will have to sign the existing senate bill first. Reconciliation is not a new bill. It is corrections to a previously passed bill.

24 posted on 02/26/2010 2:38:00 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: mdittmar

Ben misses being able to go out to into public in Nebraska....


25 posted on 02/26/2010 2:39:57 PM PST by wolf24
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To: mdittmar

OBAMA already knew this. He doesn’t care how long it takes to get to the end result of government takeover of healthcare....he said previously it would take 10-20 years....


26 posted on 02/26/2010 2:41:51 PM PST by Freddd
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To: ColdWater
"The president will have to sign the existing senate bill first. Reconciliation is not a new bill. It is corrections to a previously passed bill. "

The president wouldn't have to sign either bill, before the Congress passes both. In fact, Congress could pass the Reconciliation Bill before passing the original Senate bill, so long as the President signs the original bill before the reconciliation. That's the likely order of things and is how the House would assure that they wouldn't get stuck with just the original Senate bill.

They are two separate pieces of legislation.

27 posted on 02/26/2010 2:42:27 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Joe Boucher
Smoke and Mirrors, as far as I was concerned it was always the antitrust language.

He if I am not mistaken was an insurance executive before his days of eating pork.

28 posted on 02/26/2010 2:52:25 PM PST by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: mdittmar

“Honestly, I just don’t know.”

“Honestly” is no longer a word available to this lowlife, Nelson.


29 posted on 02/26/2010 3:00:21 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First FAILED "light skinned African American [Pres-dent] with no Negro dialect..")
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To: Joe Boucher

Nelson was always a smarmy dirtbag.


30 posted on 02/26/2010 3:05:02 PM PST by Carley
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; mdittmar
 

         

 

31 posted on 02/26/2010 3:11:59 PM PST by potlatch (- What a co-inky-stink!)
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To: mdittmar; LucyT; ExTexasRedhead; JustPiper; blackie
"We may be forced to doing healthcare -- to use my analogy -- by making a pie a piece at a time.....

There is no mention whatsoever of immediate cleanup of Medicare and Medicaid fraud, only of drastically reducing it, which they are doing NOW, see link below:

If Obamacare is passed, by reconciliation, it will signify to Americans that Obama and his crew are not up to even rudimentary leadership skills with which to run our great nation and steer her clear of potential economic ruin.

Medicare payments to stop of Monday

Unless a minor bipartisan miracle happens in Congress over the next few days, physicians will go over the cliff on Monday. That’s when a scheduled 21.2% reduction in Medicare reimbursement takes effect.

If physicians are true to their warnings, Medicare patients next week may experience difficulty making an appointment. A recent poll conducted by several medical societies representing neurosurgeons, for example, revealed that almost 40% would cut back on seeing new Medicare patients if reimbursement continues to decline, while 18% would stop accepting new Medicare patients altogether. Another 27% said they would treat fewer established Medicare patients.

32 posted on 02/26/2010 3:34:37 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest

Can We The People file a class action suit against the US Congress of thieves and traitors?


33 posted on 02/26/2010 3:51:53 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: mdittmar

I agree. Just mandate that people can’t be dropped after they get sick and mandate against discrimination based upon pre existing conditions and it is done. The rest is not the governments buisness. If they want to give tax breaks for insurance for those making less than X that is all I would go for.


34 posted on 02/26/2010 5:11:59 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: MamaDearest

... and a good time was had by all...


35 posted on 02/27/2010 7:49:26 AM PST by blackie
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