Posted on 02/26/2010 6:45:03 PM PST by GOPGuide
Haz anyonze checked out Center for Defense Information?
The Navy bailed on the whole program eons ago, back when it was just the Advanced Tactical Fighter requirement and the F-22 had been selected, I think. Apparently they think the Super Hornet is all they’ll ever need.
It’s an unkillable program.
Sadly the EFV and the LCS fall in the same category, and they shouldn’t be.
Boggles my mind the EFV hasn’t been canceled yet.
a FOIA
I’m pretty sure he was banned. Don’t know why, though.
Why would he need to? There are plenty of other FReepers who think they know more than some who actually work on the program.
And the constant comparison of the F22 to the F35 only demonstrates the utter ignorance of FReepers who can’t tell the difference between apples and kiwi.
Two different missions, two different aircraft.
Yeah, I just did. They’re an umbrella organization supported by peaceniks from these two groups.
http://www.worldsecurityinstitute.org/
They’re all about non-proliferation and disarmament.
An interesting item from their website:
Environmental impact: The rush to address global warming with an increased reliance on nuclear power increases the danger of unchecked proliferation by providing states with the means to produce nuclear weapons. Existing safeguards are inadequate.
Ploughshares Fund Board member -
Edie Allen
President, Colombe Foundation
Arlington, MA
Edie Allen began her career in the peace movement twenty-five years ago as a volunteer with Women’s Action for New Directions (WAND, a Ploughshares Fund grantee), where she has served on Board of Directors ever since. “One of the inspiring people I met at WAND was Naila Bolus, then a student intern, and now Ploughshares Fund’s executive director.” A working artist, she is the founder and president of the Colombe Foundation, which “seeks to create a peaceful world through changes in American policy.”
Other “Advisors” and “Board members” are a who’s who of greenies and peaceniks.
http://www.ploughshares.org/about-us/sally-lilienthal
http://www.ploughshares.org/about-us/lawrence-j-korb
who is a senior fellow here:
http://www.americanprogress.org/
Man you got that right.
Wrong. That is a fallacy perpetuated by the people that wanted to kill the program. They had one short time period where that rate happened.
The overall level is now less than 10 hours to one flight hour and improving.
http://hatch.senate.gov/public/_files/F22AssertionsAndFacts.pdf
There are two parallel trends that have finally converged and resulted in these disasters:
1) Too much industry consolidation has eliminated competition and driven aircraft development and production costs into the stratosphere. Nowadays, only Lockheed, Northrup, and Boeing are left, leaving DoD no alternatives except foreign companies, which are no-goes politically and from a National security standpoint.
2) The Armed Services, following the USAF’s model, consciously and deliberately closed most of their in-house RDT&E laboratories, thereby eliminating quality control on DoD’s end and losing decades worth of institutional military engineering expertise.
The F-22 an F-35 programs are the end result of these short-sighted policies. The military and defense industry is now reaping what is has sewn over the past 18 years.
It was in the great FR purge of '08.
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I think his opinion was that the F-35 would be too heavy and wasn’t going to have enough engine or carry enough fuel to meet its performance goals, especially the AV-8B replacement model. I thought he was right back then, is he still right now?
Thanks for the link and information. There was a Washington Post hit piece on the F-22 that went out of its way to make it look like the world’s most expensive hanger queen and now that perception is hard to overcome.
Has it ever crossed yours or anyone else’s mind that the same is being done to the F35?
This article of yours came from a group that is under the umbrella of other groups funded and run by greenies and peaceniks.
I would suggest you try to find more recent and credible sources for your next anti F35 post.
See Post 27 if you’re at all interested.
According to Orrin Hatch’s fact sheet, in 2008 it had 18 hours of maintenance per flight hour, and in 2009 it had 10.5 hours per maintenance per flight hour.
The REQUIREMENT at 100,000 flight hours is to meet 12 maintenance hours/flight hour.
That was Hatch’s response to the claim that it took 30 hours of maintenance — so I’m guessing the 30-hour number was wrong.
On the other hand, the F-22 cost $19,000 per flight hour, so 12 hours of maintenance time is a low part of the total cost of flying the plane. The F-18 cost $17,000 per flight hour according to the same fact sheet.
From here. http://www.afa.org/PresidentsCorner/Notes/Notes_7-14-09.pdf I got - “As in any political fight, there are those who write and say things which are not factually accurate. That happened last Friday AM when the Washington Post published, on the front page, an article http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/09/AR2009070903020.html?hpid%3Dtopnews&sub=AR which claimed the F-22 had maintenance and other major problems. Both the Air Force and AFA have responded ... noting the many inaccuracies of the piece.” We put on our web site a short paper which lays out the actual facts. You can find it here: http://www.afa.org/edop/2009/edop_7-13-09.asp
To be honest, I started out somewhat biased against the do everything, jack of all trades design concept, so it's been much easier for me to be skeptical.
None the less, we need to replace a lot of airplanes with something and the almighty powers that be have chosen the F-35. We are committed now and have to make it work.
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