Skip to comments.Woman, 61, arrested for asking ‘why'
Posted on 02/27/2010 12:29:34 AM PST by myknowledge
Four women, two of them well into middle age, were discussing funeral plans for a friend when an Atlanta police officer told them to move.
Three did but one asked “why.” In answer to her question, Minnie Carey, then 61, was handcuffed, put into a police wagon and taken to jail, where she was held for nine hours.
The Citizen Review Board found that Atlanta Police officer Brandy Dolson had violated APD policies and had falsely arrested Carey.
“I was blown away,” Carey told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “I had heard about people in the community being harassed by the police … It really didn’t shock me as much as it probably would have if I had not heard of people going to jail for no reason. I figured I was just another one.
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Would you want to get arrested by a cop for asking 'why'?
And don't bother reading your rights out to a cop - he / she is brainwashed into thinking you're a terrorist.
I am amazed that anyone in their right mind could still think that the US is a free country.
Only during the Clinton years did we get a grasp of the impending U.S. police state, something that not even George Orwell could have dreamed of. He'd be salivating in his grave by now.
“The police state rears its ugly head in Atlanta, GA.”
It sure is not the Atlanta that my mother grew up in.
So sad, as Atlanta was once a fine city.
By the way, many people do not realize that Atlanta is a very small city (500,000), as it is landlocked.
It;s EVERYWHERE, & there is little we can do about it. I remember a few years ago I was walking home from work one AM, just minding my own business on a public sidewalk & was stopped simply for being out @ that time. The cops said that the area had seem a lot of break-ins recently. YEAH, RIGHT!
I wasn't a happy camper about it, so when he asked me where I was going, I pointed in that direction & said "That way"...he then asked me where I was coming from & I did a 180 & said "THAT WAY!". He threatened to arrest me, but for some reason he didn't. I should have asked him where his lipstick was.
then leave jerk.
You are part of the problem or part of the solution. Take a beating when it comes your way or you are just a piece of trash that passes it on to someone better than you are.
I have warned all in our family to look out for city, county and state law enforcement, because they are looking to increase the revenue stream right now. State, County, City coffers are going broke, so they have to use force of law to confiscate the funds they need to justify their bureaucracy.
My daughter got a so called $20 cell phone ticket for punching the answer/speaker phone button at a stop light and rookie LEO pulled her over... interrogated her... including questions such as: “have you ever been arrested?”... uh NO...”are you sure”... uh, yeah I think I would remember that...”Have you ever committed a felony”... uh... I think I just told you I have never been arrested...
Ticket is not $20. It is packed with “FEES” Total for ticket with court fees is $180!
Just imagine if you are out of work and cannot pay that! It will quickly become a $1500 obligation! They are gunning for us... you better believe it! It’s the bureaucrats (Government employees) against the rest of us, who are not so blessed by Obama.
I’v had almost the same situation. A cop pulled me over for running a red light. He asked me where I was coming from and I said “that way”. He then asked where I was going and I said “that way”. He laughed at my responses and told me to have a nice day and walked away. No ticket for red light.
This woman should know you arnt allowed to ask “why” in Obama’s America.
Lock them up!
You fit the description of...
Not sure whats worse, the cops are dealing with the idiots that at the airport known as the TSA.
I just hope, if I’m in a group, I can run faster than those with me. Otherwise I’m the one getting clubbed like a baby seal.
Seriously, they have motorcycle cops hidden in the most obvious places they could “gotcha” you for breaking the speed limit or whatever. My daughter pointed out to me an undercover LE car the other day. We were on the way to help my Father who is disabled and taking care of his wife who has dementia. A short trip like this should not have to include the threat of LE pulling you over. Why aren’t they out there protecting the community against REAL criminals?
Give Minnie Carey a break. She’s in her 60s now. She has no knowledge of Obama’s Amerikkka.
More than 30 years ago, I worked in a building on the east edge of downtown Los Angeles. Old buildings, not exactly safe. I worked nights at a typesetting business. My car was parked cater-corner across the street.
One night I crossed without waiting for a traffic light. Didn't see any cops, the street was deserted when I started to cross.
The cops pulled into the parking lot just as I got there. They harassed me. I was not a hooker, nor did I look or dress like one. Jeans, short-sleeve sweater over some type of shirt.
I think they gave me a ticket. They were laughing and winking at each other, and laughing at me. They had no reason to stop me. They thought it was funny that I was angry at them. They asked me where did I work? I pointed to the building I'd just left, and said "there."
This isn't a new thing, but they do seem to be stepping it uu lately.
I take the opposite approach and politely and repsectfully go into a long, boring explanation packed with every little detail of my day. If he wants to ask the question I guess he really wants the answer.
Anyhow, you way of dealing with it sounds much simpler. Glad you found a COP with a sense of humor.
Why the hostility?
How about this:
"Have you ever been arrested?"
Answer: NOT YET!
"Ever committed a felony?"
Answer: NOT YET!
"Got any drugs on you?"
Answer: NOT TODAY!
The city limits of Atlanta is relatively small, approx. 600,000. But the metro area has over 5,000,000 - the majority of which seem to be on I-285 at any given time.
It’s not stupid at all. You are given the paper because if you are again stopped that same evening in a general DUI checkpoint you don’t have to wait in line to go through the same examination you just went through earlier that evening.
If you managed to get yourself drunk in the meantime the cop would probably pick up on it as you were explaining why you shouldn’t have to wait in line.
BTW, I find nothing at ll with DUI checkpoints and neither would you if you knew someone injured or killed by a drunk behind the wheel.
It’s like my parents told me on many occasions...
“It’s not what you said but the way you said it!”
Please....I’ve known people who were drunk, waved the paper & got through. I live in a shore town where this is done all summer long. I don’t like drunk drivers. I’ve been hit by one. I think the police need to recheck the drivers. That was my point. Giving sober people the paper is fine but people here keep it & wave it at the cops after drinking & are waved through. They are usually let through because the line is so long & it is a cluster of confusion. NJ has tough drunk driving laws but they need to rethink this pass thing. Because people are using it to get through the checks. Its been going on for as long as I can recall. The DUI check points do make money for NJ & do get drunk drivers off the road. I have no problem with that at all. Just take a moment to recheck the people with the pass.
“BTW, I find nothing at ll with DUI checkpoints and neither would you if you knew someone injured or killed by a drunk behind the wheel.”
I believe that checkpoints are an infringement on my right to go about my private, lawful business without being stopped by the police.
This lady was arrested for talking to friends while standing on a sidewalk? Allrighty. When the officer in question was called before a Citizen’s Review board, he refused to answer any questions. lol, I guess he didn’t like being questioned either.
If going about your business includes, in your mind, endangering the lives of others, then I strongly disagree. To be free does not mean to be able to do anything you like and only be taken to account after, in this case, you injure or kill someone.
If that is happeneing then the police are simply not doing their jobs.
“If going about your business includes, in your mind, endangering the lives of...”
I stated “lawful, private business”.
Because real criminals shoot back and are not as profitable as we are.
No they aren’t all the time. It is so confusing some nights that the cops don’t lean into the car to see if you smell of alcohol. Maybe some do but I’ve seen drunk drivers that I could see were drunk get waved through. Before I stopped drinking I was in cars where the driver was drunk & got waved through. What they cops should do is have more cops miles down the road & watch the drivers. I know they have them before the checkpoints so if you try to avoid them they will go after you.
“One family happened to purchase land that the town chairman had wanted. It’s been more than 10 years now and they have not been able to get a building site approved.”
That’s clearly harassment. If you live in a state that allows recall, vote the jerk out. Otherwise, file a suit in the state circuit court for unconscionable acts. And don’t forget to ask for monetary damages.
You weren't happy because you felt this cop was just out to harass YOU?
Most cops are good folk trying to do a job to protect and serve us, yes, there are bad cops, but this sounds like you were just being a prick. Are you a libertarian, and are just too stuck up to understand in this society why we give certain people authority?
Give them time - softcore is just a stepping stone to hard core.
That's exactly what freedom means, FRiend. You are FREE to do exactly as you please - but are responsible to face the consequences of illegal actions.
I don't drink and drive. Never have. Never will. I HATE the drunken drivers I have to deal with in my ER. I'd be for a mandatory 3 year sentence for FIRST offense DUI's.
BUT - it IS an infringement of my liberties to delay me in long lines so that some goobermint lackey can butt into my business, examine my property, and generally be an obnoxious a$$hole without any probable cause to believe that I have committed a crime.
These are the tactics of a totalitarian government; not one supposedly "by the people for the people".
BTW FRiend.... you endanger other people's lives every time you operate any type of conveyance, handle a firearm, give medications in a hospital, etc. etc. ad nauseum.
LIFE is fatal, FRiend. You lose it when God decides; not one second earlier or later - and you don't get to pick the method.
Why arent they out there protecting the community against REAL criminals?
Cops assigned to the traffic detail are supposed to enforce traffic laws. That is their job and I for one am glad theyre doing it. Several decades riding a Harley and close to ten years as a cab driver not only taught me to drive defensively, but that theres a whole lot of idiots behind the wheel.
In this city (Newport News) cops don't need to hide to catch speeders and red light runners. In my neighborhood the motorcycle cop parks on the median - in plain sight, often with flashing lights on. Drivers ignore them and run the light where the cop is parked. If looking for speeders they'll park in plain sight on the berm, holding their radar gun in the open. People ignore them and speed on by. The times Ive seen this were all in broad daylight.
Cops here dont need to be sneaky to get their quota, just work upper Jefferson Avenue and Fort Eustis blvd.
They have cops check each car & they give you a paper saying you passed the DUI check point.
A get out of jail free card!
When the checkpoints became popular here I was a cab driver. Some nights, just due to the calls I got I had to pass through the same stop a number of times. Every time it was the same, the cop tells me to roll my window all the way down, sticks head in as far as possible and sniffs. I show my license, trip sheet and hack permit. On my 3rd or 4th stop I asked why I couldnt just be waved through. She pointed to the mobile command post and said her lieutenant was watching and she had to follow procedure with every vehicle. It was costing me money, I sure could have used one of those papers.
Note: Originally they were called DUI Checkpoints". Few DUIs were found, DJs in the bars and clubs would announce their locations and warn people to be careful. The name was changed to Traffic Safety Checkpoints. They always pick up a lot of expired licenses and outstanding warrants.
At least he didn’t feel so threatened by the woman that he had to shoot her. That’s a plus.
The vast majority of cops do a very challenging job, very very well. In all professions we find the odd idiot who abuses their perceived power or steals or some such thing. These things have been happening since the first cops in history.
Hopefully, the cop in question will be punished and retrained or counseled to become a properly behaving police officer.
God Bless those who risk their lives to make ours safer.
One of my sisters was the first woman to serve on the land use planning committee for the township.
She strongly urged that reasons for denial of requested building sites/driveways/etc. be documented in writing. She felt it was important to have record. The board did not want a record. The board wanted the flexibility to approve/deny for any reason— including personal reasons.
She ended up being dismissed from her position by the board.
This morning, after my previous post, I happened to be going through some shoeboxes of papers my mom has kept. Some things contained are important, some things are coupons that expired in 2000... Anyway, I also came across a letter sent out by a family of a resident in our township to, I believe, all the residents. From 2005:
“The enclosed article references our father, (withholding name for posting purposes). It wasn’t easy for us to publicize the current medical condition of a former world-class marathoner.
Our dad grew up during the Depression on a farm in the ___, __, area. He proudly fought in Korean as an expert marksman and point man so we all could live free. One of the benefits of a free, democratic society is the privilege to elect public officials who serve the best interests of the people they represent.
Our dad and mother both worked two jobs, investing in land for their retirement or unforeseen medical issues. Ironically, fair representation by public officials, a freedom he put his life on the line for, was not allotted him by the ____ board. His property rights were taken away. Our father will never realize the benefits of his labor.
Please vote for change and fairness for all in ____ on Tuesday, April 5th.
The ___ ____ Family.
The enclosed article is titled “Is Government in (Township) Serving All the People.... Or just CERTAIN people?” and goes on to explain how this man was denied the right to sell 12 acres of his property, in order that he could pay for health care costs associated with Alzheimer’s. At the the same time, someone who knew someone influential on the board was able to build a home on a former cornfield. (The current land use plan prohibits the building of a home on any land that has _ever_ been used as crop land.) The township plan commission said, “We don’t do hardship cases.”
Here it’s always been about who you know. Even when I was a kid, farms that were part of NFO got plowed out first. Farmers who didn’t belong to NFO were plowed out last.
I just heard they now are going to add a fee if you want to change the zoning on land from Ag to any other ag designation or to residential. That fee is $1,000 per acre.
Right now, for each election, at least, there are people running in opposition to the current regime. But the ones holding the current positions use scare tactics and the older folks are afraid of repercussions. Some of the original board members are no longer “serving,” but technically they’re still in power.
Police soon forget that they are people ,just like us.
They drive around in my car (Yes I paid for it) burning my gas ( Yes: I bought that too) ,ignoring the speed limit and not worrying about being pulled over.They think we are all against them and they can only trust each other, and they hate to have their orders questioned.
When stopped be prepared to kiss their butt, be polite, remember a 60 year old woman can be arrested by this child with a gun and badge, just for saying ,Why?
“Iv had almost the same situation. A cop pulled me over for running a red light. He asked me where I was coming from and I said that way. He then asked where I was going and I said that way. He laughed at my responses and told me to have a nice day and walked away. No ticket for red light.”
I had a similar funny experience in college, I was at an outdoor party that got a little loud and the cops came. One officer asked me for my id which I did not have on me at the time (I walked across the street from where I lived to the party). I explained I did not have an id but was not driving. He asked me why I wasn’t carrying an ID on me and I calmly explained that I didn’t need one, that I knew who I was already. He seemed to enjoy that answer and let me and the rest of the partiers go with a promise to turn the music down a little.
“This woman should know you arnt allowed to ask why in Obamas America.”
Please, this has been going on for many years. You don’t question those in authority unless you’re willing to suffer the consequences. The courts will almost always give the ‘authorities’ a pass.
“BTW, I find nothing at ll with DUI checkpoints and neither would you if you knew someone injured or killed by a drunk behind the wheel.”
So, you’re a ‘Department of Pre-Crime’ kind of guy?
Why do you have a problem with policemen enforcing speeding laws? The length of the trip is not relevant. You can kill someone on a short trip just as you can on a long trip.
obama’s economy will stop their paychecks and the enitre house of cards will collapse... when is the only question.
Food for thought.
Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
What have you done lately to solve it?
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