Skip to comments.Navy smart to sink sexism
Posted on 02/27/2010 9:04:30 AM PST by ConservativeStatement
The long-standing ban on stationing female sailors in submarines is about to become a thing of the past. This week the Pentagon sent a letter to lawmakers telling them of this change in Navy policy, adding that the first female officers will probably start appearing on nuclear submarines by next year.
This is one more step forward for women in the military, although the ban on females serving in certain combat positions still remains intact. Women now make up some 15 percent of the all-volunteer services, and have become crucial to keeping the nations military operational.
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They either fly the pregnant women off the Carriers or drop them in port. I wonder if the Subs will have to surface or put in to offload their preggies?
So now the Navy guy gets married and spends months on board the sub and his new wife is going to react how?
So says another “expert” who learned all she knows about the military from watching Star Trek, and hasn’t spent a day on a submarine.
Man... putting females on a sub is like putting a bunch of cats in a bag.
Not if they fit in the torpedo tubes...
Man... putting females on a sub is like putting a bunch of cats in a bag.
Hit the nail on the head!!
Been there, seen it.
Okay guys, don't say it.
The last function performed by the Feds that I respected was maintaining our armed forces. If they are going to ruin that with social experimentation and underfunding, then that will mean to me that the covenant between me and the Government created by our founding fathers, codified in the US Constitution no longer binding. (at least on me). Waiting for the big split. Were is the exit?
Were is the exit? = Where is the exit?
and hasnt spent a day on a submarine. Hell, she hasn’t spent a day of reality in her entire life. More PC insanity by the Navy.
More Bonnie:But really, the “killer” whale’s deadly attack in Florida this week raises a much larger question: What in the heck are humans doing keeping undomesticated and “killer” animals in captivity to begin with?
“Navy smart to sink sexism”
Sexisim being having standards based upon sex rather than ONE standard for all.
She probably thinks the term “hot-bunking” refers to dorm sex.
This is what happens when Effing democRATS are in control....
But really, the “killer” whale’s deadly attack in Florida this week raises a much larger question: What in the heck are humans doing keeping undomesticated and “killer” animals in captivity to begin with?
Bonnie, did you ever stop to think about that statement? It could apply equally to our prison system!
Where to begin? I would like to know where the writer gets her “hundreds of women” joining the fighting ranks assertion from regarding both the Revolutionary and Civil Wars? There were certainly several women who dressed as men to participate, but hardly hundreds. Most of the women who did this wanted to join their husbands or boyfriends on the battlefield. Once they were discovered, usually at the infirmary, they were promptly given women’s clothing and told to leave. Interesting accounts of women during these wars exist and of the sacrifice and support they gave their husbands which shows them to have acted selflessly and with heroism. This does not mean that women should join the military and fight with men. Placing females amongst men in a submarine is not only lethal but immoral. What kind of argument does this author pose when she tries to support it by threatening an impending draft if women did not serve in the military? Is this not an example of a circular argument which is a logical fallacy?
A submarine makes several stops during a deployment, so I would think that in most cases, they would make arrangements to replace a pregnant women during one of their stops several weeks before her due date. If they are in the middle of the ocean and there is a need for immediate medical attention, they would meet up with the nearest surface ship.
As best I can tell, aboard a sub, any member of the crew can sink the vessel and kill everyone aboard.
The evidence will be at the bottom of the ocean when the inevitable male female/triangle/homosexual relation results in a crazed crew member sinking the sub with all hands..
Damn the eyes of the Immoral Faux Admirals that for the sake of their next promotion and acceptance in the “Right Circles” in Washington will knowingly allow this to occur..
America’s Modern GQ, PC Pretty Boy Generals and Admirals for whom Victory is not an option will be the rumination of the US Military.. Betraying the tradition of excellence and courage that goes back to the beginning of this nation.
At least Benidict Arnold had the Guts to be a traitor and openly change sides. These worthless sacks lack even that degree of courage or Honor.
this writer-harridan is such a fruitbat she thinks Michelle Obama is a Stepford Wife
amazing...a product of Barnard
hard to believe one of my life’s loves taught there when we did the big city thingie
Come now, there’s a perfectly good method already: throw the moms in the Momsen hatch. .
I hope they're around to accept responsibility for their policies when the wheels come off.
I live right next to Fort Knox Ky and its almost automatic when you see a female in uniform you see an expectant mother. I really wonder how they will fit all those female sailors in the subs. It is after all common knowledge that every female in the military counts as a half soldier just like female half cops. Every time things go bad they call in male backup.
So says DACOWITS.. really DACO-TWITS.
Yeah Bonnie, roger that, IDIOT! Like many FReepers, I’m ex-Navy, was on two aircraft carriers and one destroyer and while the carriers are literally floating cities, the quarters are CLOSE and privacy? You’re still stacked in there.
We have some sub drivers on FR, they know...
Last night, I went to MSNBC by mistake (I wanted to watch the Olympics on CNBC — the channels are side by side on my system).
I came across Rachel Maddow and I heard her praise San Francisco (on an issue, though I switched the channel almost immediately) and then she said “Opponents are afraid to see how good things are when liberals are in charge.”
Don’t liberals run such havens as Detroit?
Only a liberal would think this is a good idea.
Of course. Only a policy that negatively affects military readiness is improvement according to their world view.
Your post is wildly and dangerously inaccurate.
Hopefully she married a Sailor who has morals so she does not have anything to worry about. Everyone is over 18 afterall and should act like adults and be professional.
Ah, a little advice, in the future with regards to threads that are military in nature, please do not post your comments . You sound ridiculous.
that makes me NUTS! They should not have maternity camoflauge( iam sure that is mispelled!)
How is it inaccurate?
This may very well be a step forward for some women. But it is several steps backward for military efficiency and effectiveness. Has anyone run the numbers for the cost of pregnancies? What are the statistics for pregnant sailors on board ships? What is the cost of the pre- and post-natal care? What is the cost of interruption of operations to evacuate the women?
What percentage of dissonance involve women, especially on board ships? I would guess close to 100%.
What is the historical and anthropological basis for women being banned from ships in the days of sailing vessels?
Why do Democrats avoid common sense when it comes to the military? Why do Democrats dangle funding threats to ensure that their pet social experiments come about? These programs have proved to be inefficient and ineffective, yet the Democrats keep pushing them.
How is it ridiculous?
From somebody who is ex-navy, please shut up.
Were you a submariner?
I was on a destroyer but spent several weeks on an attack sub.
They should both learn to keep their khakis/dungarees on. Military spouses have been cheating on each other long before this announcement was made.
Where Boomers patrol is one of the most closely guarded military secrets. The whole idea is to not let a possible adversary know where they are patrolling - normally port visits or routine surfacings are a no-no.
11. will submarines have PMS alarms?
I’m thinking that the type of woman that would want to do this is not exactly the man loving type. But women are more fluid than men so I guess anything is possible.
I was told by a guy who used to work on a missile boat that during one deployment, they had a guy seriously injure himself while screwing around. We’re talking coma inducing brain injury.
According to the story I heard, the sub stayed on patrol, even though the guy could have died.
Maybe sub-surface ones.
so I would think that in most cases, they would make arrangements to replace a pregnant women during one of their stops several weeks before her due date.
Wow, you are an idiot! Maybe they could dump everything from a helicopter and 'turn it into a flying gas can' and send it to the sub and hoist the pregnant sailor out just like they sorta did in Hunt for Red October
That's the ticket. Especially since subs don't have anything else to do during their deployments except for liberty port visits. Sure you don't work with Obama, you sure have the insight for it!