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Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban [Flashback, 2009]
ABC news ^ | Feb. 25, 2009 | Jason Ryan

Posted on 02/28/2010 10:04:30 AM PST by Thunder90

The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.

"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: awb; banglist; blairholt; bradywatch; holder; hr45; obama; secondamendment
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There are rumors that parts of Blair Holt's HR-45 will be added to this Assault Weapons bill. Not only do they want to ban most semi-autos, they want Illinois style licensing, and require all states to adopt California rules. Holder was one of the strongest proponents of HR-45 before it died in the House. Finally, the rules proposed will make California's AWB look good in comparasion.

CCW may also be revoked nationwide with this bill

1 posted on 02/28/2010 10:04:31 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

The Democrats, if they go along with this, are really asking for it.


2 posted on 02/28/2010 10:06:15 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: Thunder90

uh huh....let them try...


3 posted on 02/28/2010 10:06:17 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tagline, oh, tagline, whereart thou tagline....)
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To: Thunder90

Do you have a story about this? From where does that quote come?


4 posted on 02/28/2010 10:06:57 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Thunder90

Do you have a story about this? From where does that quote come?


5 posted on 02/28/2010 10:06:57 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: goodnesswins

He is becoming a laughing stock.

I mean, even MORE of a laughing stock. My gawd this guy has absolutely no idea what the world looks like.


6 posted on 02/28/2010 10:07:30 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Thunder90

Just got a scope put on my recent AR 10 purchase this weekend. Going out tomorrow to sight it in. Guess I better pick up another 500 rds of ammo too just in case, no pun.

I cannot wait for this crowd to be voted out of office.


7 posted on 02/28/2010 10:07:47 AM PST by Mouton
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To: Thunder90

Bring it.


8 posted on 02/28/2010 10:08:17 AM PST by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: OldPossum

[The Democrats, if they go along with this, are really asking for it.]

Looks to me like they are insane, they already have a hundred times more on their plate than they can chew.


9 posted on 02/28/2010 10:08:38 AM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Thunder90; beltfed308; EdReform; kiriath_jearim; Red in Blue PA; JrsyJack

Bradywatch PING!!!

I have been saying this for awhile but here goes again...

Obama will seek these 4 elements in a gun bill:

1. An expanded HR 45, gun owner licensing. All gun owners will have to have these licenses, even owners of facilimie weapons (AKA Airsoft and BB). Licenses will only be granted if the records of the applicant are clean (This includes misdemeanors from decades ago). Licenses will have high renewal fees ($100-300/yr). Licensees will be required to hold $1 million in liability insurance. Possession of otherwise permitted weapons (See #3) without license is a felony.

2. Ammunition accountability... All ammo will be required to be microstamped and will be taxed $1/round. All non stamped ammo will be required to be turned in or thrown away. Possession of non-marked ammo is a felony. This part of the act also bans “Cop Killer” bullets. Furthermore, this will require the gun to leave a microstamp of its own on the ammo. (BTW, this will also affect law enforcement and military ammunition stocks, as they will be required to have stamps of their own)

3. Expanded “Assault Weapons” ban— This includes most all semiauto rifles, anything that can be “Bump Fired”, Semiauto handguns, and Semi-auto shotguns. It also includes pump-action shotguns and “Sniper Rifles” AKA your deer rifle. The AWB will also require people with “Prebans” to register their guns as Machine Guns, and that the tax stamp will go up to $10,000 per weapon. If you can’t afford this, you have to turn the weapon in without compensation...

4. Expansion of the Lautenberg amendment: Removes “Domestic Violence” as disqualifier to gun ownership, inserts any misdemeanor as disqualifer... Anyone with a misdemeanor on their record will be prohibited from owning a firearm. This includes DUI and traffic offenses, and offenses decades ago.

Finally, all CCW permits will be voided. Also, all gun and ammo imports will be banned.

It looks like the Dims are realizing that they are not going to be reelected, so they are going to cause as much damage as possible. Immigration reform and massive defense cuts are probably also instore, along with Health Care “Reform”


10 posted on 02/28/2010 10:08:41 AM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Thunder90

As if Obama doesn’t have enough political opponents now?


11 posted on 02/28/2010 10:09:37 AM PST by AlanD
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To: All

Link to story:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1


12 posted on 02/28/2010 10:09:56 AM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Thunder90

The boy just doesn’t seem to be able to understand America and know what it means to be an American. I guess that’s why being an American born on U.S. soil was a qualification to be POTUS. Any moron can be a U.S. citizen. Being an American is not something you get from a piece of paper with a couple rubber stamps on it. Those things are only good to help you get welfare benefits.


13 posted on 02/28/2010 10:10:39 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Suitcase Jake" RIP 02-24-10. You were one of a kind good buddy!)
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To: Mouton
"Just got a scope put on my recent AR 10 purchase this weekend. Going out tomorrow to sight it in. Guess I better pick up another 500 rds of ammo"

.308 Has become my least favorite range ammo to buy. I totally love the caliber, don't get me wrong. I myself have a PTR91. The ammo is just difficult to come by in bulk(compared to others) anymnore, and costs MUCH more than .223. It seems that .308 is quickly becoming a NON-plinking round.

14 posted on 02/28/2010 10:13:27 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Thunder90; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...
The list, ping

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1

15 posted on 02/28/2010 10:14:08 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Thunder90


16 posted on 02/28/2010 10:14:14 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Thunder90

What’s the source for this? Holder is a racist control freak, but I’m pretty sure I recognize that quotation from last year.

HR 45 is pushed every year by Bobby Rush, the former Black Panther, militant separatist, and violent felon, but it hasn’t made any headway.

Chitcago’s pistol ban and onerous registration are about to get thrown out by the Supreme Court (McDonald v Chicago starts this week), and once they rule that cities and states can’t trample 2nd Amendment rights, I don’t see how IL’s complete ban on bearing arms will stand.

While I’m sure they’d like any and every infringement and ban they can get, they’re going to have enough trouble just trying to slow the restoration of our rights—much less piling on new restrictions.


17 posted on 02/28/2010 10:14:58 AM PST by BobbyT
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To: Thunder90

Of course he will. Did you think he was not going to seek retribution for his stumbles on health care?

Obama stumbling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc


18 posted on 02/28/2010 10:16:14 AM PST by eaglestar
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To: Thunder90

Grandstanding. Not even Obama is arrogant and stupid enough
to think this can be done.


19 posted on 02/28/2010 10:16:42 AM PST by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: FastCoyote

Looks to me like they are insane, they already have a hundred times more on their plate than they can chew.

They don’t care if we ALL choke on it, if it furthers
socialism.


20 posted on 02/28/2010 10:16:48 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Thunder90

This move does not lose Obama any votes, so there’s no downside to it, from his narcissistic point of view.


21 posted on 02/28/2010 10:17:13 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: FlingWingFlyer

You’re absolutely right. The Kenyan has no idea....absolutely no concept of what it means to be an American.

I see a lot of turmoil by this summer.


22 posted on 02/28/2010 10:17:17 AM PST by unkus
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To: Thunder90
February 2009.

It's good to be alert, but HR 45 has no chance at the moment.
23 posted on 02/28/2010 10:17:56 AM PST by BobbyT
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To: Thunder90

This statement is a year old.


24 posted on 02/28/2010 10:18:17 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Thunder90
STORY IS FROM FEBRUARY 25th OF 2009.

Welcome to a year ago, when the Obama Administation thought that they had all the political clout in the world.

25 posted on 02/28/2010 10:18:47 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Thunder90

There’s no way in hell another “assault weapons” ban will pass the House, especially this year. There just aren’t enough RINOs to vote for it to offset the amount of democrats that will vote against it. It would be dead on arrival once it reached the floor. It would have a bit of an easier time in the Senate, but it wouldn’t be easy to pass there either. The dems would be stupid to even try it I think. Just the talk of it will anger many people.

If they do somehow manage to pass an AWB this year, they truly must be suicidal.


26 posted on 02/28/2010 10:21:20 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Thunder90
All under the bogus guise of an "assault Weapons" ban. This time time, it is far more reaching than the previous.
27 posted on 02/28/2010 10:22:46 AM PST by Jagdgewehr (Tyrannus Civis Armatus Vereor)
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To: OldPossum

The Democrats are past caring. They don’t listen to polls any more. If they get enough of these bills passed they don’t have to either.


28 posted on 02/28/2010 10:23:01 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Thunder90

That will be cause of a civil war there.


29 posted on 02/28/2010 10:25:16 AM PST by Sybeck1 (POTUS : Punk of the United States)
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To: Thunder90

30 posted on 02/28/2010 10:26:49 AM PST by Dumpster Baby (Truth is called hate by those who hate the truth.)
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To: Thunder90

This is great news. Thanks Holder! Clinton list 74 House seats and the Congress in 1994 thanks to this stupidity. And gun rights are 17 pts more popular now than then.


31 posted on 02/28/2010 10:28:04 AM PST by montag813
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I cannot wait for November. This islamo-marxist is holed up in the white hut like hitler in his bunker. He is clueless at how he is enraging the public. The Democrat Party is PURE evil.


32 posted on 02/28/2010 10:29:32 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: OldPossum

What about bugger-guns?

Obama picks nose at summit [Yes]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2460243/posts?page=45
ETL and Impy both confirmed that this is NO HOAX:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2460243/posts?page=101#101
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oQmLzdTl_U

Kerry had his sperm suit. Dukakas had his tank ride. Obama? He takes the cake. [And ‘buggers’ it up.]


33 posted on 02/28/2010 10:29:55 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Barack Hussein Obama, mmm, mmm, mmm. [Geniuses don't pick their nose.])
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To: Thunder90; Admin Moderator

Not sure where you’re getting the Feb. 28, 2010 date, but I went to the original story at the link you provided and it’s from February 25, 2009.

How’s that saying go? Measure twice cut once?


34 posted on 02/28/2010 10:30:52 AM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Thunder90

Let them know they can come over to my place and ask me how I feel about this.


35 posted on 02/28/2010 10:31:39 AM PST by digital-olive
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To: Thunder90

of course...something to distract from all his other failures


36 posted on 02/28/2010 10:32:27 AM PST by wardaddy (I'm waiting for Epic Beard Man the movie.)
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To: Thunder90

Well why doesn’t Onada and his angry band of commies eliminate state government?

This will go no where except to the US Supreme Court if Onada pushes this. With all the crap Onada already has on his plate one wonders why he wants to open this wound right now. Is he planning some other nasty surprises—like refusal to hand the presidency over to the next duely elected president? If he tries that he’ll want to get as many firearms as he can out of the hands of Americans as fast as he can.


37 posted on 02/28/2010 10:33:00 AM PST by dools007
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To: Thunder90

This is a year-old story. Nothing has been done since and it would solidify GOP majorities in both houses if they tried.


38 posted on 02/28/2010 10:33:15 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: Thunder90

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Holder snuck this one by us during the health care summit on Thursday.


39 posted on 02/28/2010 10:34:02 AM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: Thunder90

MOLON LABE!


40 posted on 02/28/2010 10:34:57 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Thunder90

So what if you have one already?


41 posted on 02/28/2010 10:36:08 AM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad,)
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To: MediaMole; Thunder90; All

Thanks for noting this is a year old story. That should have been noted by the poster of the article when it was posted.


42 posted on 02/28/2010 10:37:13 AM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“The boy just doesn’t seem to be able to understand America and know what it means to be an American”

He understands, he just doesn’t like it and wants to change it.


43 posted on 02/28/2010 10:37:39 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Thunder90

The article is a year old...we’ve been through all this. Remember the great gun buying panic of 2009?

He still might try for an new AWB, but at the moment he’s a little tied up with Obamacare...


44 posted on 02/28/2010 10:38:02 AM PST by kamikaze2000
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To: Thunder90

Wow, that’s a dumb move.. but go ahead Obama and push us some more.. Its almost a guarantee that you will be voted out of office in 2012 AND we will get even more seats in the house and senate.

I am going to post this far and wide, I can assure you every gun owner in the nation will be talking about this within a week.

Stock up folks.


45 posted on 02/28/2010 10:38:54 AM PST by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: KoRn

You got that right. Stocking up on all the surplus .308 about 10 years ago would have been a great investment.


46 posted on 02/28/2010 10:40:03 AM PST by kamikaze2000
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To: Thunder90
From the article:

"I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference on the arrest of more than 700 people in a drug enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S.

Glad to hear he's got the Mexicans' best interests in mind.

47 posted on 02/28/2010 10:40:12 AM PST by VoiceOfBruck (Was "Hussein" a common American Christian name in Hawaii in 1961? Just askin...)
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To: Thunder90

They can KMA. Other than that, no comment.


48 posted on 02/28/2010 10:43:17 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Thunder90

So is his Civilian Defense Force going to go to every house to confiscate weapons? That I’d like to see ....


49 posted on 02/28/2010 10:44:28 AM PST by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: Thunder90

Weird how 2010 is shaping up to be like 1994. Unpopular Healthcare bill. Unpopular Assault weapons ban. Scandal involving the chairman of Ways & Means (Dan Rostenkowski and the House Post Office Scandal then, Charlie Rangel and his problems now).


50 posted on 02/28/2010 10:44:33 AM PST by Brugmansian
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