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Obama's Democrats voice new confidence on healthcare
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 2/28/10 | Thomas Ferraro

Posted on 02/28/2010 2:23:09 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Democratic leaders in the Congress voiced confidence on Sunday they will have the votes, possibly within a couple of months or so, to pass landmark legislation to overhaul the healthcare system.

Facing a wall of Republican opposition, Democrats have said they may resort to a rarely used procedural tactic, .. reconciliation, to win approval on purely partisan votes.

President Barack Obama, who hosted a White House summit last week that produced no sign of bipartisan compromise, is to announce this week how he would like Democrats to proceed on a top legislative priority.

"Our members, everyone of them, wants healthcare" reform, House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat, told ABC's "This Week" program.

"Everybody wants affordable healthcare for all Americans," Pelosi said. "They know that this will take courage."

Surveys show Americans oppose the sweeping legislation pushed by Democrats during the past year. But polls also find that most Americans favor reform and believe costs need to be reduced and coverage expanded.

Republican Senator Lamar Alexander warned Democrats to expect voter backlash in November's congressional elections if they try to use reconciliation, which would enable them to win passage in the 100-member Senate with 51 votes rather than the 60 required to clear Republican roadblocks.

"It would be a political kamikaze mission for the Democratic Party if they jam this through after the American people have been saying, 'Look, we're trying to tell you in every way we know how, in elections, in surveys, in town hall meetings, we don't want this bill,'" Alexander told "This Week."

"We'd really like to get a bipartisan bill," said Senator Robert Menendez, ..

"In the absence of that, the American people ... have said in the polls that they want to see (us) move forward on healthcare reform," ..

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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Pickett's Charge . Part XXXXXXXXXVIIII..

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (R) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (L) speak to the media outside of the West Wing of the White House, in Washington, DC, on February 25. President Barack Obama will muster the votes in the House of Representatives to force his flagship reform of US healthcare through without Republican support, Pelosi said Sunday. (AFP/File/Saul Loeb)


1 posted on 02/28/2010 2:23:09 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
"..possibly within a couple of months or so,..."

At this point in the game that is just another way of saying "this turkey is dead".

2 posted on 02/28/2010 2:25:54 PM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

what are they smoking?


3 posted on 02/28/2010 2:26:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: circlecity

“President Barack Obama, who hosted a White House summit last week that produced no sign of bipartisan compromise, is to announce this week how he would like Democrats to proceed on a top legislative priority.”

Aren’t we in a sad state of affairs with this person at the helm? Sad, Sad, Sad...


4 posted on 02/28/2010 2:27:29 PM PST by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: circlecity

Let them drag this out into the summer. People want jops, not healthcare. I’ve never seen a political party implode like this. It’s amazing.


5 posted on 02/28/2010 2:27:33 PM PST by Carling (My Mom said if you have nothing good to say ... um ... I think my Mom was wrong on that one.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I really doubt Pelosi’s talent for “muscling votes” is going to work this time around.

The endorphins from the berserker frenzy/kamikaze push to sign the House bill have worn off and those reps who do not come from super-safe districts are now sobered up and thinking of the consequences.

Those threaten and bribe tactics are not going to wash anymore. Self-preservation wins.


6 posted on 02/28/2010 2:27:42 PM PST by sinanju
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To: circlecity
Their approach on this makes no sense.

First, let's hurry, hurry.

Then, we need bipartisanship.

Then, we'll jam it down your throats.

Then, there's no hurry it will be fine in two months.

If they have a strategy, I don't know what it is. They come away from this appearing to be incompetent and confused.

7 posted on 02/28/2010 2:28:19 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: NormsRevenge

Today, Democrat Senator Kent Conrad swore the Dems would not use reconciliation to pass Obama’s health care bill.


8 posted on 02/28/2010 2:29:35 PM PST by Krankor (nO)
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To: circlecity

Every day that goes by, yet more wheels will come off this bandwagon.

The more Obama, Rahmbo and Pelosi keep pushing this excrement the more will democrat revolt brew and bubble.


9 posted on 02/28/2010 2:30:02 PM PST by sinanju
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To: Krankor
Kent Conrad swore the Dems would not use reconciliation

There is no one at the helm.

10 posted on 02/28/2010 2:30:37 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: HiTech RedNeck
what are they smoking?

Medical marijuana

11 posted on 02/28/2010 2:30:45 PM PST by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: NormsRevenge
Democratic leaders in the Congress voiced confidence on Sunday they will have the votes, possibly within a couple of months or so, to pass landmark legislation to overhaul the healthcare system.

Maybe I'm just "whistling past the graveyard", but that sounds to me like they're going to put off voting on it till they're so close to the November elections that by mutual and probably silent consensus the vote will be delayed till AFTER the election : And how the elections go may determine whether the crap is EVER voted on...at the very least, if the Ds are voted out and replaced by Rs, it will then be safe to conclude that the proposals are dead at least for the foreseeable future.

12 posted on 02/28/2010 2:30:51 PM PST by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital-MARTIAL! This has been a spelling PSA.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Facing a wall of Republican American citizen opposition..
13 posted on 02/28/2010 2:31:00 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: NormsRevenge
Democrats have said they may resort to a rarely used procedural tactic, .. reconciliation,

Nuclear option!

What's good for Republicans is good for political idiots too.

14 posted on 02/28/2010 2:32:13 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: NormsRevenge

please please please let them speak of nothing but “healtcare” and cap n trade ...from now until November!!!!


15 posted on 02/28/2010 2:32:31 PM PST by mo
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To: NormsRevenge

HEY ‘RATS! America doesn’t want your communism! Stuff it!


16 posted on 02/28/2010 2:32:59 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Suitcase Jake" RIP 02-24-10. You were one of a kind good buddy!)
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To: johniegrad
"If they have a strategy, I don't know what it is. They come away from this appearing to be incompetent and confused."

I think you've answered your own question.

17 posted on 02/28/2010 2:33:25 PM PST by circlecity
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To: kaylar

a lot of damage could be done in a lame duck session...


18 posted on 02/28/2010 2:34:04 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: NormsRevenge

Lord! I hate that womans hands— I have no idea why but they drive me UP THE WALL! Like nails on a chalkboard!


19 posted on 02/28/2010 2:34:20 PM PST by Irenic
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20 posted on 02/28/2010 2:36:47 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: NormsRevenge

They are like the undead. They just keep pushing.


21 posted on 02/28/2010 2:37:08 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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22 posted on 02/28/2010 2:37:53 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Stand in line to jump off s career ending cliff to give Obama a temporary socialist victory?
We will see.
23 posted on 02/28/2010 2:38:39 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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24 posted on 02/28/2010 2:38:56 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: NormsRevenge
There is no way to get the public to like or accept this. The government has left social security, medicare and the government broke, does anyone except welfare folks really want to see a sixth of our economy go under control of a failing government?
25 posted on 02/28/2010 2:42:05 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

The nice thing if you will is none of this crap will take effect until after Obama hopes to have been re-elected.. how many will fall for it and him now? Time will tell and quickly, like in November.


26 posted on 02/28/2010 2:44:08 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I dont get it. The key aspects of the legislation —the individual mandate and ban on excluding preexisting conditions—cant be passed by reconciliation. I understand that. Why dont these people?


27 posted on 02/28/2010 2:47:38 PM PST by freespirited (We're not the Party of No. We're the Party of HELL NO!!!)
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To: A CA Guy

“possibly within a couple of months or so...”

Me too, that’s a damned odd statement. Within a couple of months or so???

My God. Maybe they’re going with the “pester them until they give in so they won’t have to keep hearing us talk about it all of the time” strategery.

I guess they’ve settled-in for a 15 month long healthcare debate......


28 posted on 02/28/2010 2:48:06 PM PST by JoenTX (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: NormsRevenge
I hope in any case that Obama and the Democrats by 2012 cause a super Republican majority in the Senate, a Republican President and Congress. If anything passed, I hope Republicans would pass another bill canceling the Democrat's socialism.
29 posted on 02/28/2010 2:49:15 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Good old dependable Reuters , a far left wing / socialist British front group printing off faxes from Peliso’s office.
Have you ever seen such a dedicated non PR push by the Dem party state media !!!!
Reuters the same outfit that pulled a truthful article about the awful economy after one phone call from Axelrod ! What a pack of Lies and BS the media has become !
30 posted on 02/28/2010 2:50:36 PM PST by ncalburt (e)
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To: JoenTX

I think it will be a combination of something in weeks being set up to make the President look good and pressure for old career Democrats to fall on their sword for the goal of socialism and a more permanent dependent class to vote Democrat in exchange for their benefits.


31 posted on 02/28/2010 2:51:37 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: combat_boots

As usual, Ramirez nails it COMPLETELY...the man is a cartooning GENIUS!


32 posted on 02/28/2010 2:53:27 PM PST by Mister Muggles (.Seattle: A city full of Liberal men with vaginas.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Obama’s Democrats.”

What, are they now his personal property? Bought and paid for?


33 posted on 02/28/2010 2:53:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NormsRevenge
Obama’s Democrats voice new confidence on healthcare

I'd have Dutch courage too, if ‘d just consumed 2 bottles of malt whiskey. The trouble with such "confidence" is, it dissipates swiftly after the effects of the booze has worn off, as it will when the Democrats wake up from their booze induced fake high .

34 posted on 02/28/2010 2:55:36 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: NormsRevenge

The "Man without a friend" and "The incredible melting speaker"

35 posted on 02/28/2010 2:56:31 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: NormsRevenge
Democratic leaders in the Congress voiced confidence on Sunday they will have the votes, possibly within a couple of months or so, to pass landmark legislation to overhaul the healthcare system.

OOPS. The bolded part just told me THEY now know the thing is dead.

36 posted on 02/28/2010 2:59:27 PM PST by Lazamataz (Seriously. The only way Obama can possibly pull this out is to declare Martial Law before November.)
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To: Caipirabob

At least they leave no one wondering if they are delusional. They must be shunned and disrespected to their dieing day for the anti-American attitudes they bring to the table.


37 posted on 02/28/2010 3:00:23 PM PST by hal ogen
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To: Carling
I’ve never seen a political party implode like this. It’s amazing.

The most amazing thing is that BO is a DINO. He's ruining the Democrat Party and he isn't really a Democrat.

Until he needed the Dem Party to win elections, he was a member of the "New Party."...socialist!

38 posted on 02/28/2010 3:00:54 PM PST by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: Mister Muggles

Absolutely.

So is FReeper tawiskaro.


39 posted on 02/28/2010 3:04:14 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: NormsRevenge

A couple of months?

I thought their timeline was weeks (before Easter).


40 posted on 02/28/2010 3:10:29 PM PST by Drea
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To: KC_Conspirator

++++ Facing a wall of..... American citizen opposition..+++++

Facing a wall of what I don’t hear mentioned......To being POOLED IN WITH EVERY KIND OF DEGRADED DEVIANT LIFESTYLE/s.

Americans must sacrifice...while the same party-ing, perks, huge salaries and huge pension lifestyles goes on with all the beltway friends.


41 posted on 02/28/2010 3:20:39 PM PST by Varsity Flight
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To: kaylar
Maybe I'm just "whistling past the graveyard", but that sounds to me like they're going to put off voting on it till they're so close to the November elections that by mutual and probably silent consensus the vote will be delayed till AFTER the election

Highly doubtful. The word is that vulnerable dems will still lose their seat having voted for it initially so the must fall on their sword for the party. Other pundits say that anything passed is better than nothing so they have no alternative and pray the voters will like it in the end. Political suicide.

42 posted on 02/28/2010 3:24:20 PM PST by StarFan
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To: NormsRevenge

“Democratic leaders in the Congress voiced confidence on Sunday they will have the votes, possibly within a couple of months or so...”

Lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie ......................................................


43 posted on 02/28/2010 3:26:44 PM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: combat_boots

That’s a wonderful cartoon! Thanks for posting!


44 posted on 02/28/2010 3:26:53 PM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Most university "science" amounts to squandering tax dollars in unoriginal ways.)
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To: circlecity

Right ... which couple of months?

Is that the same couple of months it was going to take to get fully out of Iraq? Wait we are still there.

You know, if I was a progressive lib I would be livid at the clueless incompetence of this crew. They WANT to pass it to show something to their base, but in fact this turkey is very unpopular for very good reasons, and #1 reason is: WE CANNOT AFFORD IT. A trillion more dollars we cannot afford.


45 posted on 02/28/2010 3:58:17 PM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: Lazamataz
I don't think ANYONE knows what these beasts are up to, nor can their own words or news releases by accepted at face vale, BUT...

That's how it struck me, too.

Here's hoping we're right.

46 posted on 02/28/2010 4:13:31 PM PST by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital-MARTIAL! This has been a spelling PSA.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Where’s the BARF alert?

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543

Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins.
(DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake. http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460358/posts

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
Snip The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Snip

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


47 posted on 02/28/2010 4:16:03 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: NormsRevenge
"We'd really like to get a bipartisan bill," said Senator Robert Menendez

Liar! You would like Republicans to endorse your bill, period. Just another smarmy jerk using his talking points to deceive the public.

48 posted on 02/28/2010 4:19:45 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Caipirabob

Burberry Cashmere Check Scarf - $265.00

49 posted on 02/28/2010 4:26:58 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Drea
A couple of months?

They don't have the votes unless they bribe someone else!

50 posted on 02/28/2010 4:30:09 PM PST by kcvl
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