Who are the real conspiracy theorists?

WND ^ | 3/1/2010 | Joseph Farrah

[bvw]

Tes, it is a duty of someone attesting to the oath on another — that a reasonable effort of diligence be applied to determine if the oath is valid by one making it.

[Las Vegas Ron]

wintertime one has to wonder why these people argue to verify Bams legitimacy!

YES INDEED!

[DJ MacWoW]

Do you really think that by speaking out during the oath it would have accomplished anything?

[DJ MacWoW]

It is very curious. And the reasons given are flimsy.

[bvw]

I think that the Judge should have refused to swear the oath until he heard evidence of Obama eligibility to office. Simple and honest, really.

[MamaTexan]

But Chester Arthur’s father was from the UK and that didn’t disqualify him.

It's my understand he spend a great deal of time destroying personal papers. One has to wonder how well known his supposed dual citizenship was.

It doesn't matter anyway. An unconstitutional act in the past cannot set a precedent to give legitimacy to the current dilemma.

Obama MAY be a native born citizen, but he is NOT a natural born one.

[algernonpj]

Farah gets his facts wrong by the third sentence. John McCain had no eligibility issues. He was born the son of two Americans, that makes him a natural born American citizen.

A natural born citizen is not the same as a native born citizen. The definition of a natural born citizen is a person born in the US to two US citizens. The definition is meant to eliminate dual loyalties.

John McCain was born to two US citizens, but in a hospital in Panama, while his father was stationed there. This is why questions regarding his constitutional eligibility ( Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5, of the U. S. Constitution) were raised during the last presidential election. McCain presented extensive documentation to congress, which stated he met the definition.

IF Obama's story is true, although he was born in Hawaii, both his parents were not US citizens.

[Kenny Bunk]

These posters vouch for Bam’s birth (for which there is no legal proof), then claim that they don’t support him. Clueless.

If there is one good thing that has come out of all of this, it is the evidence that Chester A. Arthur was a fraud, and therefore is unuseable by Team Obama as some sort of precedent.

But you are too harsh on those who may vouch for Obama's alleged Hawaiian Birth. I am NOT among them, but I can see why they might. After all, a duly appointed AG, serving under an elected Republican Governor, has given his authorization to a state agency, The Hawaiian Department of Health, to declare Obama (of all things) "a Natural Born Citizen."

Not only that, but that same Republican AG has supported those state officials who have absolutely stonewalled requests, made according to Hawaiian law, to release any documentation that may have led them to make that extraordinary statement. BTW, the governor and the AG have the legal authority to order release of those documents themselves, without hiding behind (of all things) The Department of Health.

Many people have a tendency to believe what they are told by goverment officials. I sincerely hope that naïveté is the real reason these posters support the Hawaiian Birth story without any legal proof.

[DJ MacWoW]

I don’t know many people with that kind of courage.

[ari-freedom]

“He isn’t an American. In Germany, when he campaigned, he stated that he’s a “citizen of the world”. Why do you think he said that? Would an American say that?”

yes they would. I’m sure Kerry, Rangel and Frank along with many other 100% American born and raised leftists would.

[2Wheels]

“Obama’s mother was American so that also makes him a natural born American.”

You are clueless. Go here and see what you can learn: The more you look here - the more you’ll learn.

http://puzo1.blogspot.com/

[bvw]

Why should Roberts have refused? A common notary public may refuse to notarize a document believed to be a fraud. The duty of THE CHIEF JUSTICE in swearing in the CHIEF EXECUTIVE of the nation is a duty of a far greater responsibility, yet Roberts did not even seem to show the diligence of a common notary in this awesome matter.

Under what circumstances may a notary refuse to notarize a document?

As a public officer, a notary should perform any notarial power to any individual who makes a reasonable and lawful request for notarization. A notary may, however, refuse to notarize a document if the notarization would result in an illegal or improper act or the notary knows that the transaction is fraudulent.

http://www.sos.state.md.us/Notary/FAQ.aspx#refuse

[algernonpj]

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: (e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person; http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401——000-.html

But NOT A natural born citizen, a very special requirement placed in the constitution by our founding fathers.

[bvw]

I do not understand what you mean by courage. Duty is duty.

[DJ MacWoW]

But you are too harsh on those who may vouch for Obama's alleged Hawaiian Birth.

No I'm not. And common sense says that the Founders wanted only a true citizen in the highest office.

Many people have a tendency to believe what they are told by goverment officials.

On FR? We've learned not to trust any of them.

[Las Vegas Ron]

McCain presented extensive documentation to congress, which stated he met the definition.

I would love to see what he used to prove his case, I've not seen it here. I would think that what he used would completely destroy obama.

[DJ MacWoW]

yes they would. I’m sure Kerry, Rangel and Frank along with many other 100% American born and raised leftists would.

Give quotes then.

[ari-freedom]

that is what “citizens of the United States at birth” means.

of course, he would still have to be born in Hawaii. Do you have any proof that he was born anywhere else?

[DJ MacWoW]

Yeah...let’s compare apples and oranges. A notary is the equal of a Chief Justice, right? LOL

[DJ MacWoW]

I do not understand what you mean by courage.

Then I can't explain it to you.