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Obama: Dems Will Use Nuke Option to Ram Through Obamacare
| Jime Hoft
Posted on 03/02/2010 7:32:01 PM PST by Justaham
Barack Obama will announce tomorrow that democrats will use the nuclear option to takeover the health care industry.
White House officials tell ABC News that in his remarks tomorrow President Obama will indicate a willingness to work with Republicans on some issue to get a health care reform bill passed but will suggest that if it is necessary, Democrats will use the controversial reconciliation rules requiring only 51 Senate votes to pass the fix to the Senate bill, as opposed to the 60 votes to stop a filibuster and proceed to a vote on a bill.
Lawmakers on Capitol Hill have been awaiting the presidents remarks direction on how health care reform will proceed.
In his remarks, scheduled to be at the White House, the president will paint a picture of what he will say will happen without a health care reform bill skyrocketing premiums, everyone at the mercy of the insurance industry as recently seen with the 39% premium increases proposed by Anthem Blue Cross in California.
(Excerpt) Read more at gatewaypundit.firstthings.com ...
TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhohealthcare; nuclearoption
posted on 03/02/2010 7:32:01 PM PST
posted on 03/02/2010 7:33:11 PM PST
I’ll believe it when I see it. So far they are all talk.
Let them own it entirely. They’re toast.
posted on 03/02/2010 7:36:03 PM PST
So much for separation of powers, Obama's writing legislation and now making decision's on what rules the congress he will ignore to push it through.
Well, I guess we should be happy that he's going through the motions at all instead of just deciding to impose it through executive order...
posted on 03/02/2010 7:36:25 PM PST
posted on 03/02/2010 7:38:24 PM PST
(We're not the Party of No. We're the Party of HELL NO!!!)
Will someone tell the ‘scholar’ that (A) It’s unconstitutional, and (B) Reconciliation cannot be used.
It’s time to start impeachment re: oath/constitution.
posted on 03/02/2010 7:38:43 PM PST
(Pray, Pray, Pray.)
They are not listening. They no longer have the consent of the governed. They are on their way out. I don’t think we should elect a single ‘rat for the next 3 or 4 cycles - teach them a lesson. You will listen to the will of the people. The people you are elected to serve and represent, not rule and use.
posted on 03/02/2010 7:39:15 PM PST
(obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
posted on 03/02/2010 7:39:30 PM PST
("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
If they do it, let the lawsuits begin....
posted on 03/02/2010 7:40:17 PM PST
If it is ways and means it must start in the House.
posted on 03/02/2010 7:49:34 PM PST
("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
...skyrocketing premiums, everyone at the mercy of the insurance industry as recently seen with the 39% premium increases proposed by Anthem Blue Cross in California...this kind of demagoguery is infuriating - government health programs - Medicare and Medicaid - routinely underpay providers for the actual cost of care by at least 10 percent - providers have to make up the difference somehow or they go bankrupt - so they usually shift the cost to private payers, including the insurance companies, who then are vilified by the likes of Obama and the 'rats for their rapidly rising premiums - everyone is at the mercy of the government's interference into the health care field, and it's only going to get worse......
This video needs to be run nationally on tv to let the people see how the dems are a bunch of hypocrites on the 51 vote nuclear option.
posted on 03/02/2010 7:53:11 PM PST
(Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
Repeal as a viable option at a later date....if there are Repubs with the man dangles to pursue such.
posted on 03/02/2010 7:55:48 PM PST
To: Intolerant in NJ
TEN PERCENT???? I wish.
Try FORTY PERCENT...and that was BEFORE the March 1st 21% cut.
posted on 03/02/2010 7:56:26 PM PST
Oh please, Mr. Obama, PLEASE do! Go ahead, MAKE MY DAY :-D
posted on 03/02/2010 8:00:13 PM PST
by patriot preacher
(To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
"(B) Reconciliation cannot be used."
Well it sure looks like they are going to try and I believe that the Democrats could give two s**ts about the rules of the senate.
posted on 03/02/2010 8:03:37 PM PST
If they do it I say
CIVIL DISORDER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted on 03/02/2010 8:06:45 PM PST
It’s not NAZISM!, FASCISM, DICTATORSHIP!!!, etc. when Democrats do it...
And the Big 3 networks do not DARE to point out Democrat hypocrisy.
posted on 03/02/2010 8:09:17 PM PST
(Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
posted on 03/02/2010 8:20:26 PM PST
(Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
I have seen snippets of the Obama, Biden, and Hillary clips on Fox. But I agree, not only does it need to be on the tube, we need to make it go viral online.
Am sending to my entire address book. Think I will post it here tomorrow as a thread.
posted on 03/02/2010 8:33:00 PM PST
(We're not the Party of No. We're the Party of HELL NO!!!)
I thought the prevailing wisdom has been that this piece of crap legislation would not survive the up or down vote that is necessary for it to move forward in the house?
Didn’t they only pass it by just 4 votes?
posted on 03/02/2010 8:47:00 PM PST
by incredulous joe
(Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow.)
Repeal as a viable option at a later date
Of course the d-rats will hold us to 60 votes to change the bill or repeal it, and there's some language in there that parts of the bill cannot be repealed.
We'll need a fast track to the Supreme Court before 0 is able to make any new appointments.
posted on 03/02/2010 9:59:17 PM PST
Hey Jimie Hoft:
Barack Obama will announce tomorrow that democrats will use
the nuclear option reconciliation to takeover the health care industry.
The "nuclear option" and "reconciliation" ARE NOT the same thing.
Follow those links and learn some history. You are an embarrassment to the blogging community.
posted on 03/02/2010 10:21:50 PM PST
(nobama... the python prez, squeezing the very life out of everything he touches. h/t madamehusker1)
To: Intolerant in NJ
Glad to see you understand the problem so well.
Doctors and clinics are so poorly reimbursed by the US Govt for Medicare that they end up coding higher for privately insured patients.
Once a doctor has a medicare patient in their panel, and that could be from a longtime patent turning 65, that doctor is pretty much forced to see that patient. They are not allowed by law to refuse to see their Medicare patients. When their patient panel gets too packed with elderly Medicare patients, they lose money, go out of business or shut down and start over with a new patient panel but refusing new Medicare patients.
As a doctor, you can refuse to see new Medicare patients, but must see those already in your practice. But if you are a doctor that repeatedly sees the same patients, then there’s nothing to be done if a longtime patient has their 65th birthday and comes in to see you. You are going to eat the cost and think of ways to shift it to those with private insurance.
So yes, premiums go up because of government dictating care for the elderly and paying whatever they feel like paying on a month to month basis. And that more often than not means the doctor is working for about $9 per hour or losing money.
posted on 03/02/2010 11:00:21 PM PST
So yes, premiums go up because of government dictating care for the elderly and paying whatever they feel like paying on a month to month basis...it's not just dictating care for the elderly - I had the misfortune of watching part of a hearing involving the grilling of a couple of health insurance executives by some scum congressmen last week on C-Span - part of their testimony related to why their rates had increased "so much" in various states - at one point the CEO said that in Maine their company was the only one left (except for one very small local company) - there had been a number of others, but they all fled the state after the legislature there mandated that all people wishing coverage, no matter what their health status, had to be offered a policy, driving the cost of coverage skyhigh - government intervention at all levels has so distorted who pays what for how much coverage that the system is completely unbalanced - if they'd get their hands off for awhile it might work its way back to some sort of effectiveness eventually, but it doesn't look like that's about to happen.....
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