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Nazi Film Still Pains Relatives
New York Times ^ | March 2, 2010 | LARRY ROHTER

Posted on 03/02/2010 9:34:22 PM PST by nickcarraway

In the history of the cinema, the German director Veit Harlan occupies an especially ignominious position. It is his name that is attached to “Jew Süss,” perhaps the most notoriously anti-Semitic movie ever made, a box office success in Nazi Germany in 1940 that was so effective that it was made required viewing for all members of the SS.

But what motivated Harlan to write and direct such a film? Was he a Nazi true believer, an opportunistic careerist or just a filmmaker too fearful of retribution to say no to Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda chief? Those are some of the questions that another German director, Felix Moeller, asks in “Harlan: In the Shadow of Jew Süss,” a documentary that opens a two-week engagement Wednesday at Film Forum in Manhattan.

“Harlan may be forgotten, but he was an influential figure, frequently mentioned in Nazi documents and in Goebbels’s diary,” Mr. Moeller said. “That interested me as a historian, but I also wanted to know what the younger generation thinks of this. We think we know everything, but when you ask what your grandfather did on the Eastern Front, what went on in your own family, it’s a different matter, and that story is important to me.”

Mr. Moeller’s film includes some snippets from “Jew Süss,” whose commercial exhibition or sale as a DVD is still prohibited in Germany and several other European countries. Set in the 18th century, it claims to be a dramatization of the true story of how a sinister, cunning Jewish financier, Joseph Süss Oppenheimer, took control of the duchy of Wurttemberg while preying sexually on a pure Aryan maiden,

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agitprop; antisemitism; dajooz; film; goebbels; harlan; holocaust; jews; jewsss; jewsuss; nazi; nazipropaganda; propaganda; propagandist; theeternaljew; veitharlan; worldwar2; wwii
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1 posted on 03/02/2010 9:34:23 PM PST by nickcarraway
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By setting his story a long time in the past, it almost looks like the filmmaker was winking at the viewer.


2 posted on 03/02/2010 9:51:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: nickcarraway

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jud_S%C3%BC%C3%9F_%281940_film%29


3 posted on 03/02/2010 9:55:43 PM PST by packrat35 (Democrat Healthcare is a 9-11 Attack on the Constitution)
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I’ll never forget when Leni Riefenstahl was honored at the Acadamy Awards in the death montage they do - paying tribute to all the great artists, directors and filmakers that have passed away the previous year. All those idiots cheering for Hitler’s filmmaker. Disgusting.
4 posted on 03/02/2010 9:58:58 PM PST by americanophile (Congratulations Team USA! You made us proud!)
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To: nickcarraway
It is his name that is attached to “Jew Süss,” perhaps the most notoriously anti-Semitic movie ever made

Maybe as a drama. But I thought the most anti-semitic film ever made was Der Erwige Jude?
5 posted on 03/02/2010 10:05:58 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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Perhaps someone else could corroborate my experience, but the most anti-Semitic movies I ever saw were the Nazi films made using Jews as experimental animals and infecting them with parasites and viruses and performing dissection upon the Jews while they were alive. The USAF had these films up to the middle 1970’s and were viewed by medical AFSCs. They were absolutely sickening. It is most probable that the general public is ignorant of these films having been made.
6 posted on 03/02/2010 10:12:27 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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People blame Hitler and Goebbels for the atrocities of the Nazis, but there was actually quite an appetite for this sort of behavior by the Germans, Austrians, and other during this period.

Hitler got the big crowds, not a moderate , or a Priest.


7 posted on 03/02/2010 10:16:25 PM PST by AlanD
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To: AlanD

Welcome to Free Republic.

And good-bye.

Hank


8 posted on 03/02/2010 10:22:40 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Where's the diversity on MSNBC? Olbermann, Schultz, Matthews, Maddow.....all white males!)
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To: americanophile

Leni Riefenstahl, though she indeed worked for Hitler, was actually a brilliant film maker—whose career was totally wrecked after the war. Her remarkable skills are what made her so dangerous...and those skills used post-war were basically ignored by Hollywood until very recently.

The US Space program was built upon the work of differently skilled brilliant German rocket scientists—who were also rewarded for their work for us (and who during the war also helped Hitler nearly succeed).

I really don’t see a lot of moral difference—except the rocket scientists were used and recognized early on—but Reifenstahl basically had to wait until her death.


9 posted on 03/02/2010 10:23:38 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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"The US Space program was built upon the work of differently skilled brilliant German rocket scientists—who were also rewarded for their work for us (and who during the war also helped Hitler nearly succeed)."

And much of the US consumerist media propogated after WWII was influenced by social control techniques (adopted from Nazi propogandists who were also imported after the war).

10 posted on 03/02/2010 10:38:07 PM PST by research99
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To: AnalogReigns
...you make a good point, but to my mind the U.S. government using NAZI scientists to further our own national security goals is different than the gratuitous honoring of a NAZI propagandist. Perhaps it was the venue that I found so astonishing as well. To my mind she's a sinister figure who made NAZI propaganda films for Hitler and Goebbels and used concentration camp prisoners as extras...it's just hard to imagine that the heavily Jewish Academy with their incessantly preachy and moralistic acceptance speeches could put this woman up with Bob Hope and applaud loudly in tribute.


11 posted on 03/02/2010 10:43:13 PM PST by americanophile (Congratulations Team USA! You made us proud!)
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Another parallel between pre WWll and today, the number of Jews that supported the Nazis then and the ones that support the Left and Islamicism now...just amazing that so many can be so self destructive.


12 posted on 03/03/2010 12:42:34 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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>>>I’ll never forget when Leni Riefenstahl was honored at the Acadamy Awards in the death montage they do - paying tribute to all the great artists, directors and filmakers that have passed away the previous year. All those idiots cheering for Hitler’s filmmaker. Disgusting.

I hear what you are saying but it’s akin to bashing D W Griffith because later generations disapprove of the message of “Birth of a Nation”. Nonetheless looking at it objectively it is a remarkable film for so early in the history of cinema.

Likewise Leni was a magnificent filmmaker, even if in the service of the Nazi party. And as far as I know she didn’t deal in the sort of hate propaganda as discussed in the main article.


13 posted on 03/03/2010 12:57:19 AM PST by tlb
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To: americanophile
I’ll never forget when Leni Riefenstahl was honored at the Acadamy Awards in the death montage they do - paying tribute to all the great artists, directors and filmakers that have passed away the previous year. All those idiots cheering for Hitler’s filmmaker. Disgusting.

They cheered for Reifenstahl and Polanski, but sat on their hands for Elia Kazan because he talked to HUAC. Their morals are backward.

14 posted on 03/03/2010 1:52:42 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: americanophile

what is Rahm Emmanuel doing in a Picture with Hitler?


15 posted on 03/03/2010 3:24:07 AM PST by ballplayer
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He’s the guy in the dress?


16 posted on 03/03/2010 5:13:33 AM PST by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: AnalogReigns

Good post. My father worked/golfed a few times with these German Scientists when he was in Alabama. In fact, he met Von Braun a few times and thought the good Dr. was nothing but a brilliant dreamer.


17 posted on 03/03/2010 6:00:28 AM PST by ohioman
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To: AlanD
What a stupid, stupid thing to say.

It is customary to welcome people who are new here, but I will not be doing that in your case.

18 posted on 03/03/2010 6:04:49 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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I think you are missing my point. The Nazi atrocities were committed with the enthusiastic commitment of the German people. Obviously I am against them, as I am Jewish.


19 posted on 03/03/2010 7:21:41 AM PST by AlanD
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Are you one of the people who thinks Hitler was elected? He wasn't.

He gave nice nationalistic speeches and people loved that. But they were also scared as hell of him and his regime.

And that's all well and good, but when it comes down to it, Hitler and his circle were the ones ordering the exterminations. Not the German people.

20 posted on 03/03/2010 7:33:06 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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