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Thune: GOP preparing to slow or block health bill in Senate debate
thehill.com ^ | March 3, 2010 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 03/03/2010 10:08:00 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Republicans are preparing to raise points of order and other roadblocks to the healthcare bill, a member of the Senate GOP leadership said Tuesday evening.

Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the fourth-ranking Senate Republican who serves as chairman of the Republican Policy Committee, said the GOP is prepared for a number of scenarios in which they would seek to slow down or halt passage of healthcare legislation once it comes back before the Senate.

"I still think it creates a lot of problems when it comes back to the Senate because there will be lots of points of order that will lie against the bill in the Senate, and obviously, we will, hopefully, have the opportunity to raise some of those," Thune said of the health bill during an appearance on Fox News.

At issue is the new bill of healthcare legislation changes the House is expected to pass under budget reconciliation rules. Under those rules, the legislation only has to achieve a simple majority in the Senate instead of the 60 normally needed to end a filibuster. Such a maneuver would effectively sidestep Republican opposition to the health bill.

"You know, I don't want to concede that it's going to pass for sure yet," Thune said. "I still think that there's a lot of clock left in this game."

Republicans have fewer procedural options under reconciliation rules, which limits debate and is designed to eventually force votes on a piece of legislation. The GOP might object, though, for instance, to whether the new legislation is germane to the budget. These points are decided by the Senate parliamentarian, but could be overruled by the president of the Senate.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; hypocrisy; nakedpower; nuclearoption; obamacare; reidlied

1 posted on 03/03/2010 10:08:01 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Thune 2012


2 posted on 03/03/2010 10:10:01 AM PST by petercooper (GOP: Big Tent Party??? Not if you are a CONSERVATIVE.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
said the GOP is prepared for a number of scenarios in which they would seek to slow down or halt passage of healthcare legislation once it comes back before the Senate

Glad to hear it, but it's one thing to say you're "prepared" to take a strong stand, then find a reason to "compromise" in the name of "bipartisanship." I'm concerned some GOPers may jump ship on the premise a bill with the symbolic, easily removed Republican ideas is "half a loaf."

3 posted on 03/03/2010 10:11:37 AM PST by ScottinVA (Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“”You know, I don’t want to concede that it’s going to pass for sure yet,” Thune said. “

Sound committed......

LOL!!


4 posted on 03/03/2010 10:12:48 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Republicans need to delay things long enough so that Congress can face the American people during their Spring break.


5 posted on 03/03/2010 10:15:32 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Senate Pubbies better grow a big pair before this gets to the floor. They’re gonna need’em.


6 posted on 03/03/2010 10:15:56 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It is my understanding that under Reconcilliation, they can continue to offer endless amendments and tie up the Senate indefinitely.


7 posted on 03/03/2010 10:16:39 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: petercooper
-"Thune 2012" What "budget" has he been responsible-for besides his own personal/campaign budget?
8 posted on 03/03/2010 10:20:18 AM PST by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only blind and destructive.)
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To: petercooper
-"Thune 2012"

What "budget" has he been responsible-for besides his own personal/campaign budget?

9 posted on 03/03/2010 10:20:47 AM PST by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only blind and destructive.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Screw the collegial stuff - I’d rather hear, “We refuse socialism, it’s NOT what this great country is about. We will fight to protect America from ANOTHER tax burden they can not afford. Uncle Sam can’t manage a postal service - we sure as hell are not going to allow a takeover of your healthcare. We are sickened by the prospect of those tax dollars funding abortions. Americans have spoken, it’s about time Barry and his party start to listen. Oh yeah, and Harry, meet me by the bike rack after school...”


10 posted on 03/03/2010 10:21:28 AM PST by Made In The USA (Home Depot should begin stocking up on pitchforks and torches.)
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To: petercooper

After 20 hours of debate the Repubs can offer unlimited numbers of amendments which should be a very effective way to slow this government run monster down. Also, it’s a virtual certainty that the Senate Parliamentarian will advise the leadership against using Reconciliation in order to try and pass Obamacare. The Senate Parliamentarian has no legal authority, he only offers public advise to members/leadership on the Rules of the Senate. The ultimate power is with Joe Biden, the President of the Senate. Can you imagine the backlash against the WH/Dems when the Parliamentarian comes out against using this procedure and is overruled by the Vice President? It will be earth moving, the Dems will surely lose both the House and Senate this year. Then again maybe they already believe that and are saying “what the hell, we don’t have anything to lose.”


11 posted on 03/03/2010 10:22:09 AM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
SHUT
IT
DOWN
12 posted on 03/03/2010 10:23:40 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Shut it down" Rush Limbaugh, 3/3/10)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

You’re exactly right, and all the Dems can do is try to vote them down, and also try to shame the Repubs to stop tying up the Senate. I’m sure the MSM will carry all the water the Dems ask them to on this one.


13 posted on 03/03/2010 10:24:56 AM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: Made In The USA
Personally, I don't care too much about the rhetoric.

What's important is that they get the job done. And that may just happen.

14 posted on 03/03/2010 10:35:42 AM PST by what's up
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...

ping


15 posted on 03/03/2010 10:36:45 AM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: ScottinVA

Exactly.


16 posted on 03/03/2010 10:37:52 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Yeah sure; we’ve been hearing from the beginning that the health care plan as proposed by the WH is DOA, has no chance, will die before a vote etc etc - yet, here we are. When it comes down to it, most Repubs run away like screaming school kids.


17 posted on 03/03/2010 10:59:20 AM PST by howlinhound (ARE PLAN AS PRO)
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To: petercooper
"Thune 2012 "

One of the weird things happening in America right now is, everytime someone says something that sounds a little profound, or says he drives a pickup truck, the shouts for that person to run in 2012 ring out.

The current oaf we have in the Oval Office muttered the words "hope" and "change", and the gullible flocked around him like he was Christ himself reborn.

I mean, shouldn't there be more than just one or two utterances, or augenblicks of bravdo before we start printing the campaign posters?

Running the elections and picking candidates like we bet on the Friday night high school football team is what has got us into the mess we're in.

One guy yells out "you lie" during an obama speech, and the next day they're wanting to pick him a VP. Sure, it was brave. Sure it was true. But he was just doing what the rest of our Representatives should be doing...being brave. Yelling "you lie" and running country are two different things, entirely.

After Scott Brown won, some just wanted to skip the U.S. Senator thing and boost him straight on to the White House. Why? Because he drives a pickup? Because he posed (almost)nude? Because he's good looking?

Great, but let him do a Silverado commercial or replace Letterman on a TV Talk show, but President?

I know we are solidly collectively desparate for a leader; a leader that is a Patriot; a leader that loves America; a leader to leads...but let's don't get too desparate, as big mistakes are sometimes made in desparate circumstances.

Next election we need to look at leadership, morals, courage, patriotism, track record, experience, and someone not connected to the Washington elite power structure...but let's make sure we don't pick them because they can say "Peter Piper Picked A Peck of Picked a Peck of Pickled Peppers" well, because they drive a Jeep, or some other silly, Sesame Street reason.

Just sayin'...../rant off
18 posted on 03/03/2010 11:03:42 AM PST by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: moose2004

I do think all the amendments will make the dems vote on the record (rollcall) for their folks at home to know. Could be interesting seeing many of them go hide for cover.


19 posted on 03/03/2010 11:15:43 AM PST by Pit1
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543

Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins.
(DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake. http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2462963/posts

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
Snip The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Snip

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


20 posted on 03/03/2010 11:50:11 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: FrankR

Well said!


21 posted on 03/03/2010 1:30:50 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Pit1

And we can now track how much the House members are dancing to Pelosi’s tune each step of the way. I heard the guy at this website interviewed on the radio this morning. He was talking about how some representatives take one stand for posturing purposes, but then vote the other way when it’s time. He calls it the “Pelosi Index”.

http://nationalrepublicantrust.com/pelosiindex/


22 posted on 03/03/2010 1:36:42 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Parley Baer

My point.We`d better have a plan of action in place.


23 posted on 03/03/2010 4:22:54 PM PST by nomad
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Reminds me of the orchestra in the last moments before slipping under the waves...


24 posted on 03/03/2010 4:31:27 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: FrankR

FrankR 2012!


25 posted on 03/04/2010 4:23:28 AM PST by petercooper (GOP: Big Tent Party??? Not if you are a CONSERVATIVE.)
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To: Pit1

Especially when votes are forced on the issues of abortion, guns, freedom of speech, etc...


26 posted on 03/04/2010 7:16:44 AM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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