Skip to comments.Thune: GOP preparing to slow or block health bill in Senate debate
Posted on 03/03/2010 10:08:00 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
Republicans are preparing to raise points of order and other roadblocks to the healthcare bill, a member of the Senate GOP leadership said Tuesday evening.
Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the fourth-ranking Senate Republican who serves as chairman of the Republican Policy Committee, said the GOP is prepared for a number of scenarios in which they would seek to slow down or halt passage of healthcare legislation once it comes back before the Senate.
"I still think it creates a lot of problems when it comes back to the Senate because there will be lots of points of order that will lie against the bill in the Senate, and obviously, we will, hopefully, have the opportunity to raise some of those," Thune said of the health bill during an appearance on Fox News.
At issue is the new bill of healthcare legislation changes the House is expected to pass under budget reconciliation rules. Under those rules, the legislation only has to achieve a simple majority in the Senate instead of the 60 normally needed to end a filibuster. Such a maneuver would effectively sidestep Republican opposition to the health bill.
"You know, I don't want to concede that it's going to pass for sure yet," Thune said. "I still think that there's a lot of clock left in this game."
Republicans have fewer procedural options under reconciliation rules, which limits debate and is designed to eventually force votes on a piece of legislation. The GOP might object, though, for instance, to whether the new legislation is germane to the budget. These points are decided by the Senate parliamentarian, but could be overruled by the president of the Senate.
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Glad to hear it, but it's one thing to say you're "prepared" to take a strong stand, then find a reason to "compromise" in the name of "bipartisanship." I'm concerned some GOPers may jump ship on the premise a bill with the symbolic, easily removed Republican ideas is "half a loaf."
“”You know, I don’t want to concede that it’s going to pass for sure yet,” Thune said. “
The Republicans need to delay things long enough so that Congress can face the American people during their Spring break.
The Senate Pubbies better grow a big pair before this gets to the floor. They’re gonna need’em.
It is my understanding that under Reconcilliation, they can continue to offer endless amendments and tie up the Senate indefinitely.
What "budget" has he been responsible-for besides his own personal/campaign budget?
Screw the collegial stuff - I’d rather hear, “We refuse socialism, it’s NOT what this great country is about. We will fight to protect America from ANOTHER tax burden they can not afford. Uncle Sam can’t manage a postal service - we sure as hell are not going to allow a takeover of your healthcare. We are sickened by the prospect of those tax dollars funding abortions. Americans have spoken, it’s about time Barry and his party start to listen. Oh yeah, and Harry, meet me by the bike rack after school...”
After 20 hours of debate the Repubs can offer unlimited numbers of amendments which should be a very effective way to slow this government run monster down. Also, it’s a virtual certainty that the Senate Parliamentarian will advise the leadership against using Reconciliation in order to try and pass Obamacare. The Senate Parliamentarian has no legal authority, he only offers public advise to members/leadership on the Rules of the Senate. The ultimate power is with Joe Biden, the President of the Senate. Can you imagine the backlash against the WH/Dems when the Parliamentarian comes out against using this procedure and is overruled by the Vice President? It will be earth moving, the Dems will surely lose both the House and Senate this year. Then again maybe they already believe that and are saying “what the hell, we don’t have anything to lose.”
You’re exactly right, and all the Dems can do is try to vote them down, and also try to shame the Repubs to stop tying up the Senate. I’m sure the MSM will carry all the water the Dems ask them to on this one.
What's important is that they get the job done. And that may just happen.
Yeah sure; we’ve been hearing from the beginning that the health care plan as proposed by the WH is DOA, has no chance, will die before a vote etc etc - yet, here we are. When it comes down to it, most Repubs run away like screaming school kids.
I do think all the amendments will make the dems vote on the record (rollcall) for their folks at home to know. Could be interesting seeing many of them go hide for cover.
OBAMANOMICSTRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!
PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.
Bambi doesnt keep his promises...so buyer beware!
Sen Scott Browns number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121
Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Militarys secondary health ins.
(DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!
OBAMAs WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/
New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake. http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Friday, February 19, 2010
Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2462963/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:
This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollees cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf
Bill Would Restrict Veterans Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries
Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009
Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
Snip The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.
Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.
President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees in fiscal 2010, Matz said. We took them at their word, and I cant believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward, he added.
And we can now track how much the House members are dancing to Pelosi’s tune each step of the way. I heard the guy at this website interviewed on the radio this morning. He was talking about how some representatives take one stand for posturing purposes, but then vote the other way when it’s time. He calls it the “Pelosi Index”.
My point.We`d better have a plan of action in place.
Reminds me of the orchestra in the last moments before slipping under the waves...
Especially when votes are forced on the issues of abortion, guns, freedom of speech, etc...