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More Diplomatic Incompetence from the Obama Administration
Powerlineblog.com ^ | 03/02/10 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 03/03/2010 11:59:41 AM PST by OldDeckHand

One wonders: does the Obama administration deliberately try to screw up our foreign policy, or is it just a matter of ignorance and incompetence? This is painful reading: "Argentina celebrates diplomatic coup as Hillary Clinton calls for talks over Falklands." Here is a photo of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Argentina's President Fernandez de Kirchner. So much for the idea that foreign relations would be conducted better by women.

Now onto the news.

Argentina was celebrating a diplomatic coup yesterday in its attempt to force Britain to accept talks on the future of the Falkland Islands, after a two-hour meeting in Buenos Aires between Hillary Clinton and President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner.

Responding to a request from Mrs Kirchner for "friendly mediation" between Britain and Argentina, Mrs Clinton, the US Secretary of State, said she agreed that talks were a sensible way forward and offered "to encourage both countries to sit down".

Her intervention defied Britain's longstanding position that there should be no negotiations unless the islands' 3,000 inhabitants asked for them. It was hailed in Buenos Aires as a major diplomatic victory, but condemned in the Falklands.

So, once again, the Obama administration has sold Great Britain, formerly our #1 ally, down the river, along with the inhabitants of the Falklands, whose opinions would seem to count for something. We are past the point where anyone could doubt that the Obama administration's hostility toward the U.K. is intentional. Obama seems to have substituted personal pathology for national policy. The London Times story continues:

(Excerpt) Read more at powerlineblog.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; chili; clinton; democrats; fail; hilary; obama; state
More Diplomatic Incompetence from the Obama Administration

Or, as it's more commonly called - Wednesday.

1 posted on 03/03/2010 11:59:42 AM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Douche bag alert.


2 posted on 03/03/2010 12:01:21 PM PST by tommyboy (We'll do it live)
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To: OldDeckHand

Clinton doesn’t know what she is doing.


3 posted on 03/03/2010 12:02:20 PM PST by thethirddegree
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To: OldDeckHand
...does the Obama administration deliberately try to screw up our foreign policy, or is it just a matter of ignorance and incompetence?

Yes.

They ARE deliberately trying to screw up our foreign policy and if they were not so ignorant and incompetent it would be even more screwed up than it is.

4 posted on 03/03/2010 12:04:21 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: OldDeckHand

Maybe he can send the Brits some DVDs by way of apology.


5 posted on 03/03/2010 12:05:41 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: OldDeckHand

If it were “ignorance and incompetence” they would accidentally get it right now and again.

Since they never get it right, it must be inferred they’re deliberately trying to screw it up.


6 posted on 03/03/2010 12:06:07 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: OldDeckHand

When the Chinese write of the history of the downfall of America, they will point to this presidency as the greatest single debacle in that process.

0bama has gone out of his way to alienate the one country that has consistently stood by our side in every major international issue since 1941. And he has replaced that relationship with nothing.


7 posted on 03/03/2010 12:06:08 PM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: OldDeckHand
Incompetent morons, the whole bunch.

Nam Vet

8 posted on 03/03/2010 12:06:13 PM PST by Nam Vet (Inuendo IS NOT an Italian suppository.)
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To: OldDeckHand
She really screwed the pooch.. there was a declaration that the Falklands were British in perpetuity in the peace treaty signed in 1982. ( but the Argentines never never amended their constitution to disavow it's claim)
9 posted on 03/03/2010 12:06:14 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: henkster

“0bama has gone out of his way”............the big question people need to as is “To what end”. I have my opinions but it would be looked at as a conspiracy theory.


10 posted on 03/03/2010 12:09:58 PM PST by RC2
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To: thethirddegree

Exactly what has she done, besides deliver satellite phones to Chile? Who is the White House “Special Assistant” for South America?? (That’s right! Whomever it is would be too busy kissing Chavez’ arse...)

I still think she is looking for the right excuse to pull the plug as SecState, (making her the biggest ‘Rat so far to abandon ship...) and launch another campaign to challenge Premier Hussein for the nomination in 2012. I’ll bet you a burger that has already been discussed and planned, and only awaits the right degree of pull on the proper trigger. If anyone can smell blood in the water, it is the Arkansas Mafia...

When Eric Holder goes under the bus over kow-towing to terrorists (and their attorneys...), that should do it...


11 posted on 03/03/2010 12:10:25 PM PST by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: WayneS
They ARE deliberately trying to screw up our foreign policy and if they were not so ignorant and incompetent it would be even more screwed up than it is.

Exactly! They are intentionally trying to weaken America on every front.

12 posted on 03/03/2010 12:10:40 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Nam Vet
Incompetent morons, the whole bunch.

They're only 'incompetent' if you assume they're *trying* to do what's right for America.

13 posted on 03/03/2010 12:14:25 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

I read the headline fast, and thought it said “Diplomatic Incontinence”.

OOps!!! ...slinks off....


14 posted on 03/03/2010 12:23:12 PM PST by Radagast the Fool ("Mexico-Beirut with tacos!"--Dr. Zoidberg)
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To: Bean Counter
"I still think she is looking for the right excuse to pull the plug as SecState, (making her the biggest ‘Rat so far to abandon ship...) and launch another campaign to challenge Premier Hussein for the nomination in 2012."

She might be thinking that, but as a practical matter, I think it's impossible fro her to wrest the nomination from Obama. Even in the face of falling poll numbers, Obama has maintained an iron-fisted grasp on the minority voters, with some polls showing him still well above 90% of black support and over 80% with Hispanics.

It's impossible to win the Democrat nomination in the face of such minority opposition because minorities make up such a large part of the Democrat electorate now. I think the Democrat party is stuck with Obama.

15 posted on 03/03/2010 12:23:50 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Oooooh, this one is on the Crusty one!!! Either she screwed the pooch herself or was directed to by Obama and didn’t decline the mission. She’s “in it, up to her neck.” /Navarone


16 posted on 03/03/2010 12:26:05 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Shut it down" Rush Limbaugh, 3/3/10)
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To: RC2

It is my opinion that 0bama is a “true believer” among socialists. He really believes in the “one-world government” and that he is “the chosen one” to bring this about (he is that narcissistic).

In order to do so, he must do the following in the international sphere:

1. Abdicate our role as the sole military superpower;
2. Repudiate the alliance system that supported that role
3. Surrender our sovereignty to international bodies
4. Destroy our economic independence to an extent that his changes are irrevocable;

Domestically he must do the following:
1. Destroy the economic wealth and prosperity of the middle class in order to destroy our political independence (the goal of all marxist regimes)
2. Cement political power in the one party state
3. Nationalize all basic industries

Dissing the UK is consistent with the destruction of our alliance system. By shoving our most reliable ally out the door, it sends a clear message to everyone else.


17 posted on 03/03/2010 12:27:06 PM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: OldDeckHand
I thought that humiliating and raking Mr. Toyoda over the coals by our brilliant majority party, considering Japan just became our #1 debt-holder, was the worst we could do, but Hillary always come thru.

Way to poke our allies in the eye with a pointed stick, Hillary!

18 posted on 03/03/2010 12:28:38 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: WayneS; OldDeckHand; DuncanWaring
< Rumsfled speak >

Some administrations are competent, others incompetent.

Some administrations are trying to serve their country; others are deliberatly trying to screw it up.

Times are good, when a competent administration is trying to serve the country. The likely outcomes are known knowns.

We can’t be sure what we’ll get, when an incompetent administration is trying to serve their country. The outcoms are unknown unknowns The road to perdition is paved with good intentions.

When an incompetent administration is trying to screw their country; the best we can hope for is that it is really, really incompetent. Fortunately, the outcomes are known unknowns.

When a competent administration is trying to screw their country; that’s when we have most to fear. Unfortunately, these outcomes are also known knowns.

< /Rumsfeld speak >

19 posted on 03/03/2010 12:29:49 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: OldDeckHand

And MORE South American diplomatic incompetence, and silence, by BillaryObama.

“Viva Zapata”: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704625004575089751014975986.html


20 posted on 03/03/2010 12:31:01 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Radagast the Fool

Not quite as harmful to U.S. foreign policy, I suppose, but MUCH messier if it hits one of our diplomats during a meeting.


21 posted on 03/03/2010 12:35:48 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Is that an actual quote from Rumsfeld? You forgot to include a link to where you got it.


22 posted on 03/03/2010 12:36:40 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: DuncanWaring

If it were “ignorance and incompetence” they would accidentally get it right now and again.

Since they never get it right, it must be inferred they’re deliberately trying to screw it up.

Excellent observation.


23 posted on 03/03/2010 12:36:51 PM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: WayneS

Or if it hits the fan!!!


24 posted on 03/03/2010 12:38:45 PM PST by Radagast the Fool ("Mexico-Beirut with tacos!"--Dr. Zoidberg)
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To: OldDeckHand

She might be thinking that, but as a practical matter, I think it’s impossible fro her to wrest the nomination from Obama. Even in the face of falling poll numbers, Obama has maintained an iron-fisted grasp on the minority voters, with some polls showing him still well above 90% of black support and over 80% with Hispanics.

She can take him down easily. All they have to do is fake a health problem for Bill, Hillary steps down (before 2010) and after the massacre provides the remaining dems a moderate progressive hill to rally to. Bammy will be totally neutered, Clinton Inc will signal to their minions to bring out the knives and carve him up for 2 years. Remember how many Clintonistas are in key positions in the media and Government. She needs a convincing personally appealing reason to step down as SOS, and she needs to do it within the next 3 months. Her electoral shelf life expires after 2012. Just sayin.


25 posted on 03/03/2010 12:40:51 PM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

Or Obama can drop Biden in 2012 and have Hillary run as his VP.


26 posted on 03/03/2010 12:51:39 PM PST by kabar
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To: OldDeckHand
It is not ignorance, incompetence or an accident.

Communist Wants To Burn America To The Ground

27 posted on 03/03/2010 12:56:20 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: thethirddegree

This idiot woman, thinking she is one with the female pres of Argentina, may very well bring about a new conservative government of the UK. The Falklands have vast amounts of oil, Britain owns them, fought for them and will fight to keep them. Clinton is certifiably an idiot. This situation has the ability to completely change Parliament also.


28 posted on 03/03/2010 12:56:53 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
Excellent observation.

I must admit I think I actually heard it originally from someone else.

29 posted on 03/03/2010 1:40:39 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
All they have to do is fake a health problem for Bill, ...

They don't even need to fake it.

With two heart operations in the last few years, he's not a healthy man.

30 posted on 03/03/2010 1:42:50 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: OldDeckHand

I’m confused - isn’t Hillary Clinton supposed to be the smartest woman on the planet? What happened?


31 posted on 03/03/2010 1:44:13 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Our politicians are stupid and our policies unsustainable)
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To: reagan_fanatic
"I’m confused - isn’t Hillary Clinton supposed to be the smartest woman on the planet? What happened?"

Apparently, she was seduced....


32 posted on 03/03/2010 1:55:35 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: ETL
Completely made up.

I stated out without the “unknown unknowns” bit; and added them later, so that the connection with Rumsfeld’s logical approach would be clear.

On further reflection (i.e. having read my post, as well as writing it); I would change a couple of things. The outcomes of an incompetent administration, trying to serve the country, would be known unknowns — i.e. we know the agenda, we just don't know how well it will be executed. The outcomes of an incompetent administration, trying to screw things up would be unknown unknowns. We don't know their real agenda (because they're duplicitous); and we don't know how the execution will turn out.

33 posted on 03/03/2010 3:13:01 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

In other words, we shouldn’t trust Obama further than we can spit.

:)


34 posted on 03/03/2010 5:13:23 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

You sir, are a master of the précis.


35 posted on 03/03/2010 5:32:54 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: OldDeckHand

If you gave Obama and crew a feather and a rock they would contrive a way to use the feather to screw up the rock. Then they would blame the damage on George W. Bush.


36 posted on 03/03/2010 7:40:20 PM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: thethirddegree
Clinton doesn’t know what she is doing.

Oh? You're of the opinion that this isn't deliberate? I'll have to disagree...

the infowarrior

37 posted on 03/04/2010 12:01:24 AM PST by infowarrior
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