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Rep. Chaffetz proposes firing federal workers who are tax cheats
Wapo ^ | 03/03/10 | Ed O'Keefe

Posted on 03/03/2010 1:57:19 PM PST by freespirited

If you work for Uncle Sam, but you don’t pay him after he pays you, look out for Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R- Utah).

“Fire Federal Employees Who Are Not Paying Their Federal Income Taxes.” That’s the headline on a news release Chaffetz issued Wednesday, announcing legislation that would terminate federal workers who have a “seriously delinquent tax debt.” Currently, only IRS staffers can be dismissed if they don’t pay their taxes.

“Federal employees have an obvious obligation to pay their federal income taxes,” said Chaffetz. “Because they draw their compensation from the American taxpayers, federal employees owe it to the taxpayers themselves to pay their taxes. If not, they should be fired.”

He doesn’t say how they might pay that debt after losing their jobs. The legislation also would block the federal hiring of applicants who are seriously behind on their taxes.

Citing IRS data, the Chaffetz release said nearly 100,000 federal civilian employees owed $962 million in unpaid federal income taxes in 2008. With retirees and military personnel included, the numbers come to more than 276,000 people owing $3 billion.

(Excerpt) Read more at voices.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: federalemployees; jasonchaffetz; lds; mormon; taxcheats
Promising idea, but really needs to include the tax cheats in Congress.
1 posted on 03/03/2010 1:57:19 PM PST by freespirited
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2 posted on 03/03/2010 1:58:30 PM PST by pogo101
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To: freespirited

Yeah, start with Congress. Then move to the Executive.

We could also chop off agencies that have no mission. Like the Department of education that educates no one.


3 posted on 03/03/2010 1:58:40 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: freespirited

How about firing all congress critters and administration officials that are tax cheats?


4 posted on 03/03/2010 1:58:50 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: freespirited

Start with Congress. Then the Cabinet.


5 posted on 03/03/2010 1:58:59 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: freespirited

Stating the obvious.


6 posted on 03/03/2010 1:59:42 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: freespirited

You can’t do that. It would mean getting rid of half of Congress. Well....maybe that wouldn’t be such a bad idea. Just make sure you get all the interest. Especially from Rangle.


7 posted on 03/03/2010 2:00:17 PM PST by RC2
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To: freespirited

How about laying off federal workers who do and who don’t pay their taxes. That would save a lot of money.


8 posted on 03/03/2010 2:01:03 PM PST by arista
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To: freespirited

Good idea, but Obama would have to look for a new staff.


9 posted on 03/03/2010 2:02:12 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: freespirited
I love this little piece of liberal clap-trap.

He doesn’t say how they might pay that debt after losing their jobs.

They aren't paying it now so what is difference?

10 posted on 03/03/2010 2:03:16 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer. Are you prepared?)
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To: freespirited
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R- Utah) talks big but if he were asked to submit a bill (and shepherd it through to signing) to deny mailers who owe postage deficiencies (for bad checks, paying the wrong rate, declaring the wrong mail volume, etc.) from mailing any more mail ~ period ~ until they paid their earlier bills, I guarantee you he'd refuse.

It's easy to go after federal employees who might owe taxes. It's not so easy to go after a crooked mailer who has a couple of attorneys at his beck and call.

11 posted on 03/03/2010 2:03:53 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: STARWISE; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Liz; freespirited

I like Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R- Utah).


12 posted on 03/03/2010 2:04:02 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: pogo101

Yes thank you it was the obvious first choice


13 posted on 03/03/2010 2:05:24 PM PST by the long march
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To: freespirited

Amen~! Fire ‘em all, both civil, elected or appointed. Makes no difference.


14 posted on 03/03/2010 2:07:15 PM PST by Qwackertoo (I'm really thrilled that Scott Brown WON Big Time Last Night)
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To: freespirited

This would exclude about half of obozo’s folks wouldn’t it?


15 posted on 03/03/2010 2:07:29 PM PST by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs.)
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To: freespirited

Nest they can begin to remove the licenses of lawyers who haven’t paid their student loans.... no wait, lawyers make the laws. That will NEVER happen


16 posted on 03/03/2010 2:10:41 PM PST by The Brush
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To: freespirited

& they should lose their pensions.


17 posted on 03/03/2010 2:21:45 PM PST by FES0844
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To: K-oneTexas

>Like the Department of Educationwhich educates no one<

No, but it surely Feducations them!


18 posted on 03/03/2010 2:23:53 PM PST by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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To: freespirited

Nice idea, but it will never happen even if it becomes law. The big government employee unions would drag every case through the appeal and legal system for years, all the while the employee is sitting at home collecting full pay and benefits. Next, some lib federal judge would end up ordering the employee reinstated saying that the law violates some imagined right.


19 posted on 03/03/2010 2:29:57 PM PST by apillar
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To: freespirited
Most government “workers” do not work for the people,
they work for their union thug owners.
20 posted on 03/03/2010 2:31:17 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: freespirited
And we trust IRS generated statistics on this issue why?

There are several problems with these numbers. First, the reported numbers work out to an average of $9,000 per delinquant account, for FY 2008. This neartly1/2 of the total tax bill for even a high level employee with a mortgage. In case no one notices, the Federal Government withholds income tax and even does so for its own employees.

Have you ever been in a position where the IRS thought you owed even $500 which you have not paid. They hound you to death and with penalties and interest it ends up being $1500 before you know it and it takes a year to make it all finally go away because the IRS made an error.

And for everyone else out there, how much money that the IRS says you owe do you end up actually owing? It turns out to be negative as often as positive once all accounts are settled.

So, we grant the IRS has some credibiity on this claim why?

21 posted on 03/03/2010 2:33:56 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: freespirited

I have been wanting to rant on this for a while.

There are many interested parties who attempt to influence our federal government and its actions by recruiting Agents of Influence. Among the “agents of influence” are politicians, SES (Senior Executive Service), civil servants, and anyone else capable of providing intel or influencing Federal government decisions. The parties trying to gain influence include foreign powers, interest groups (e.g., environazis), corporations (e.g., Goldman Sachs), unions, various causes, and even religious groups (e.g., scientology...OK, they’re not really a religion but they did try to infiltrate the CIA and FBI).

The normal way to gain control over an Agent of Influence is through money, ideology, or blackmail.

For example, I would bet my last dollar that a few congresscritters have secretly been enriched by the Saudis and other OPECKERS to oppose drilling in the USA in order to protect their cartel’s profits.

In order to root out such Agents of Influence I propose that that under the Palin Administration the IRS shall conduct deep, intrusive audits of all members of Congress, all SES, and all senior civil servants. ALL OF THEM REGARDLESS OF PARTY. A deep audit will uncover suspicious money transfers, windfall profits on real estate or other investments, large gifts such as cars, etc.

Then the Justice Dept. needs to PROSECUTE anyone who has been evading taxes, taking bribes, or aiding outside groups.
The criminal Agents of Influence will run for the exits at the first sign that such a serious crackdown is on the way.

This cleanup is the prelude to a 80-90% reduction in force of all civil servants. We need to screen and vet the remaining workers to retain only the honest, un-bribable few. There are few critical Federal functions that cannot be better done by outside contractors.

Such a drastic reduction in the civil service workforce is one of the primary strategies for fixing the runaway federal deficit.


22 posted on 03/03/2010 2:34:12 PM PST by darth
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To: freespirited

Figure the odds...


23 posted on 03/03/2010 2:35:40 PM PST by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: freespirited

Good.


24 posted on 03/03/2010 2:48:51 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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And after’’ Timmy the Taxcheat’’ toss out Charlie Rangel.


25 posted on 03/03/2010 3:09:02 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: freespirited
This is a lot to do about nothing. Federal employees can already be fired for failure to pay their taxes. In fact they can be fired for failing to pay their bills in general, its known as “Failure to Pay Just Debts”.

The fact that so few are actually fired is the real issue. Its about bureaucracy and mismanagement, but don’t worry they will handle healthcare just fine.

26 posted on 03/03/2010 3:14:55 PM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: darth

As I’ve pointed out many times, if you fired EVERYBODY working for the federal government it wouldn’t put the slightest dent in the deficit.


27 posted on 03/03/2010 4:31:42 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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A RIF would save some money, but the real purpose is to reduce the size of government and get them out of our lives.

For example, the EPA is full of Greens who WANT to reduce economic growth as part of their religion. The only way to eliminate the drag on economic growth is to fire as many as possible.

The federal payroll acts like a huge subsidy for leftists who would be flipping burgers otherwise.


28 posted on 03/03/2010 4:48:11 PM PST by darth
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