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N. Korean Army Running out of Food...Soldiers Ordered to Sleep Rather Than Do Training
Donga Ilbo ^ | 03/04/10 | Zu Sung-ha

Posted on 03/03/2010 8:42:33 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

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N. Korean Army Running out of Food...Soldiers Ordered to Sleep Rather Than Do Training

2010-03-04 03:00

Sources, "Officers go AWOL for a long time to feed himself."

N. Korea's recent shortage of food is reaching close to the level during the famine in 90's, aka 'March of Suffering.' In particular, discontinued food aid from international community is reportedly hurting soldiers most.

Sources say that food situation in N. Korean military have rapidly deteriorated since the second half of last year. Civilians learned to survive without government ration, but soldiers cannot survive unless the state provide them with food. Stopped food aid from international community dealt a serious blow to them.

According to one of the sources, since the latter part of last year, many units can only provide a few dozen corn kernels or a couple of potatos (per meal) and they have only enough for two meals (a day.) Order came down to make soldiers sleep in the afternoon and not put them into training or work as much as possible.

Another source said, "Malnutrition among soldiers are increasing fast, and I have even seen a case of an unmarried company commissar who went home, stayed for a month, 'replenish himself with calories', before returning (back to his unit.)"

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(Excerpt) Read more at news.donga.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foodshortage; military; nkorea; sleep

1 posted on 03/03/2010 8:42:33 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Cue -14bama sending extra MREs in.... 3.... 2.... 1....


2 posted on 03/03/2010 8:44:41 PM PST by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is what BO wants America to become. It’s not fair that we eat Big Macs and drive our SUVs while North Koreans and others starve to death. We should all starve. It’s how you “save da planet” don’t you know.


3 posted on 03/03/2010 8:44:59 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you liked 2009, you're going to LOVE 2010!!!!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

When the Army gets hungry, things get dicey.


4 posted on 03/03/2010 8:45:04 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

First rule of successful dictatorship - don’t piss off your military.


5 posted on 03/03/2010 8:45:25 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 405 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Tiger, I ALWAYS ENJOY READING WHAT YOU POST. Is this a South Korean publication? Did you translate it? How reliable is the source?


6 posted on 03/03/2010 8:45:50 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...
All this information leaking out to the outside world. A great embarrassment to Chia Head. It must be really infuriating. Hence, repeatedly issuing decrees to crack down on cellphone or other way of communication to outside world. According to latest report, it would now earn mandatory execution by firing squad.

However, defectors in S. Korea still maintains extensive network of stringers inside N. Korea, providing day-to-day situation.

7 posted on 03/03/2010 8:47:41 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The price of communism, where we are headed.
All I can say is that the US Military is educated (this may make a big difference at some point soon...).


8 posted on 03/03/2010 8:48:49 PM PST by elpinta (DC, TSA: things that make me puke.)
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To: the Real fifi
This is from a major S. Korean daily Donga Ilbo (one of the top three.) The article is in Korean. I translated first half and posted it.

It may hit foreign media later, sometimes in a day or two sometimes longer. On certain occasion, this kind of information got embedded in a related (foreign) article published later. I am just trying to give you the first crack.

There is certain amount of noise in these kind of reports. Sometimes several versions are floating around, and in some cases contradict each other.

However, malnutrition and hunger has been going on for some years. That is nothing new, but ordering them to take the afternoon off and go to sleep is a new development.

9 posted on 03/03/2010 8:54:05 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

My God, if the army is starving, what must be the condition of the poor citizens? What a horror that country is.


10 posted on 03/03/2010 8:56:40 PM PST by americanophile (Congratulations Team USA! You made us proud!)
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To: the Real fifi
The reporter for this article, Zu Sung-ha, is a defector from Pyongyang who attended Kim Il-sung University, the best and the most selective(not just academically but also ideologically) university in N. Korea. He is no doubt from N. Korea's elite, and may have some connection among elite circle of N. Korea.
11 posted on 03/03/2010 9:02:22 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: Army Air Corps

Indeed.


12 posted on 03/03/2010 9:11:03 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Special contingency plan for SK ... should NK ever attack, saturate the battlefield with food. The advancing army will stop, gorge themselves into a stupor, and then you can go and round ‘em up.


13 posted on 03/03/2010 9:16:24 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Shut it down" Rush Limbaugh, 3/3/10)
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To: NonValueAdded
I suspect that if Chia Head orders full-scale invasion, many of these malnourished soldiers find the field combat too physically demanding and pass out in the battlefield. As you said, if SK military broadcast the promise that they get to eat three meals a day, all of which are white rice and meat soup, thousands could lay down their arms and gladly become POW.

They are chronically malnourished, barely strong enough to walk around. Many of them may have occasional blackouts from anemia due to malnutrition. You can't fight under this condition.

14 posted on 03/03/2010 9:31:05 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Tiger - just out of curiosity, what is the opinion of the ROK people to eventual reunification? Are they studying the German example to project the costs/pitfalls, or is it too soon to start thinking about it?


15 posted on 03/03/2010 9:42:46 PM PST by happyathome
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To: happyathome
Many are torn between imperative of unification and its cost. This is the angle the local left wants to exploit. They don't want S. Korea to unify the Peninsula on its terms. However, Chia Head's bandit style antics pissed off too many here. They now want Kim Jong-il gone.

The most likely scenario, if S. Korea has it way, is that N. Korea becomes S. Korea's protectorate, and maintains border and different economy, while politically managed by S. Korea. Then allow N. Korea to use its labor cost and low currency to develop its economy concentrating on labor-intensive industry first. Probably outsourced factories of major S. Korean corporation will relocate to N. Korea. However, breakup of N. Korean regime has unpredictable elements, and things can happen which is beyond any outsider's control.

16 posted on 03/03/2010 9:54:46 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

BTTT


17 posted on 03/03/2010 9:55:52 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: americanophile

Try reading the article. The ordinary citizens are much better off. That’s why some of the soldiers are going AWOL, so they can go home and eat.


18 posted on 03/03/2010 10:59:55 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I tried, but it's in a language I can't read - presumably Korean. As for the reliabilty of the translation, I can only speculate, but no part of me believes that the North Korean Army will starve before the citizenry...try reading any other article about the North Korean food situation from the past 10+ years.
19 posted on 03/03/2010 11:20:29 PM PST by americanophile
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To: americanophile

It isn’t obvious that the recent history is any guide here. Any quasi-normal people still alive will have found ways to eat just enough to stay alive by now while the same is not necessarily true for soldiers as the article mentions and if the soldiers are too weak to function, they’ll also be too weak to take food from civilians.


20 posted on 03/04/2010 12:53:20 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: americanophile; wendy1946
For last decade or so, military got bulk of its food supply from foreign aids. Ships carrying grains or other stuffs dock at N. Korean port, and soldiers in civilian clothes came out driving trucks pretending to be civilian workers, haul grains into them, and drove back to their unit.

Another source is to loot food from civilians. That has been common practice, too.

Yet another source is that military units operate their own farms, growing grains and sometimes cattle.

Military keeps large amount of grains for war-time reserve. It can be only released during war-time. NK is quite strict about it. So it is off limit to military in peacetime.

Diverting food aid, looting from civilians, and growing their own food cannot completely meet the need of military. After all, there are millions of them. Many suffer from malnutrition. A phrase is coined for this problem: Yong-shil-goon. 'Yong-shil' is a short abbreviation of malnutrition in Korean. 'Goon' means military. It means army of malnutrition.

Those who cannot get enough food eventually have to seek help from their family. Officers used to condone conscripts to go home for a while when they don't have enough food or get sick. It is a kind of rotation system. Soldiers take turns to go home, recuperate and return to unit. However, there are those who just disappear after going out ostensibly to their home. There are reportedly many such soldiers on the run inside N. Korea. Since everybody is more preoccupied with finding food to survive, catching so many deserters is not exactly a top priority.

Since last year, incoming food aid from overseas, including S. Korea, dried up dramatically. Military took big chunk of fall harvest, but that was not enough. Harvest was not exactly good. Currency reform and border crackdown pretty much closed off remaining channel of grain inflow. Cross-border trade with China and private market broke down. It is said that some amount of grains were smuggled in for last couple of months into N. Korea. Still it is doubtful that they have enough quantity to feed currently starving population.

Food aid cut off, civilians themselves have little to eat and starving badly, not enough grains are smuggled in. All these contribute to the situation that many common soldiers are chronically hungry and weak, which resulted in this latest development.

21 posted on 03/04/2010 1:30:02 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Tiger, your reports are priceless and show the value of the Internet. Personal translating of local reports is simply NOT DONE in the US.


22 posted on 03/04/2010 1:32:47 AM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (If you meet people with no brain, no heart and no courage, you are not in KS-You are in the Congress)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“This is what BO wants America to become. It’s not fair that we eat Big Macs and drive our SUVs while North Koreans and others starve to death. We should all starve. It’s how you “save da planet” don’t you know.”

Obama must save his Marxist brothers!


23 posted on 03/04/2010 2:45:33 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I find your comments interesting and informative. Lots of details I didn’t know. Thanks.


24 posted on 03/04/2010 5:38:53 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: TigerLikesRooster

You’re right that the N. Korean army has been diverting food aid away from the population for years. That’s my point. Since the regime depends upon the army for stability and couldn’t care less about the civilian population, the army as a whole will not starve while the civilain population has food. In the short term they may be able as individuals to get food from their families, who must themselves then do with less, but ultimately Kim must either feed his army or risk losing his hold on power.


25 posted on 03/04/2010 8:00:16 AM PST by americanophile
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Kudos on the translation BTW...didn’t see that it was yours.


26 posted on 03/04/2010 8:05:47 AM PST by americanophile
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To: wendy1946
" It isn’t obvious that the recent history is any guide here. "

I disagree. The starving guys with guns and power will take food from the starving men and women without guns and power as they always have.

27 posted on 03/04/2010 8:10:14 AM PST by americanophile
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To: americanophile
but no part of me believes that the North Korean Army will starve before the citizenry

Me either. But they'll overthrow Dear Leader on their way to pillage the civilians' food supply, if he doesn't hurry up and feed them.

28 posted on 03/04/2010 3:03:13 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thank you for the ping.


29 posted on 03/05/2010 2:22:31 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( garden/survival/cooking/storage- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2299939/posts?page=5555)
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