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Bankruptcy filings volume in US is still soaring despite economic recovery signs(consumer)
e-Commerce Journal ^ | 03/03/10

Posted on 03/04/2010 7:02:41 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Bankruptcy filings volume in US is still soaring despite economic recovery signs

March 3, 2010 - 4:55am

Bankruptcy filings volume in US is still soaring despite economic recovery signs

As American Bankruptcy Institute data showed, despite good signs of economic recovery consumer bankruptcy filings surged this month compared to a year earlier figures.

Thus the data reflected 14% surge on an year basis. As for the monthly changes, 9% increase from January is represented by 111,693 cases filed last month.

And that financial distress is driving more Americans to file for Chapter 7 bankruptcy, which allows a court to discharge most unsecured consumer debt, including credit card bills.

When a stricter bankruptcy law took effect in 2005, a main target was to require more families to rely on Chapter 13 bankruptcy, which requires filers with regular income to repay debts in full, or in part, over several years. Yet the number of Chapter 13 filings decreased 3% last month from January.

Since the law was changed in 2005, the bankruptcy rate has been increasing every year.

Moreover, business bankruptcy filings are also increasing. Therefore, in February, there were 6,557 business filings, compared to 6,390 a year earlier, according to Automated Access to Court Electronic Records digits.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; consumer

1 posted on 03/04/2010 7:02:41 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

P!


2 posted on 03/04/2010 7:03:03 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“Since the law was changed in 2005, the bankruptcy rate has been increasing every year.”

One has nothing to do with the other. Crap writing and editing.


3 posted on 03/04/2010 7:06:25 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Psycho_Bunny

The 2005 law makes it HARDER to file a CH 7, not easier.

Bad writing, worse editing...Bad Santa ;-)


4 posted on 03/04/2010 7:08:17 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Very true as the 2005 law made personal bankruptcy marginally more difficult. Under the old rules I would expect they’d be far higher still.


5 posted on 03/04/2010 7:08:56 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Bankruptcy's are up -- but we're in recovery!
Foreclosures are up -- but we're in recovery!
Unemployment is up -- but we're in recovery!

At some point, even the sheeple have to see.

6 posted on 03/04/2010 7:15:52 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Bankruptcy filings volume in US is still soaring despite economic recovery signs

I'm wondering what "recovery" these a-holes are continually referring to. They keep mentioning it, despite there being no evidence whatsover to support the contention.

Either the journalists who keep insisting on this "recovery" exist in an alternate reality, or I live in an alternate reality.

7 posted on 03/04/2010 7:23:02 AM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

What frickin’ recovery signs? These people are absolutely crazy.


8 posted on 03/04/2010 7:24:40 AM PST by calex59
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To: AAABEST
The beautiful irony of it is that the journalists who constantly talk about the ongoing recovery are watching their entire industry implode. Journalists are being laid off all over the place. No one is buying their product. And yet they spend their last days in the office typing "Happy Days Are Here Again!"

It's called drinking the kool-aid. By the gallon.

9 posted on 03/04/2010 7:25:52 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
The 2005 law makes it HARDER to file a CH 7, not easier.

At least 95% of the people eligible before 2005 were still eligible after 5The new code added a means test which is supposed to determine if you qualify. What most people do not know is that prior to 2005 nearly all bankruptcy courts applied a disposable income test to qualify. The two tests yield essentially the same result.

One key factor in the number of Chapter 7 filings is this: Prior to the housing market collapse, many people filed Chapter 13 bankruptcies in an effort to save the equity in their homes. Today, most of these homes are under water and now people are surrendering their homes to get rid of the white elephant.

10 posted on 03/04/2010 7:31:53 AM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I got a McAfee “phishing site” warning when I accessed “ecommerce-journal.com”.


11 posted on 03/04/2010 8:31:36 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That is because Americans are now so prosperous because of Obama’s economic plan they file bankruptcy just to get rid of the excess wealth. Too much bookkeeping to do.

That is because Americans are now so prosperous because of Obama’s economic plan they file bankruptcy just to get rid of the excess wealth. Too much bookkeeping to do.

That is because Americans are now so prosperous because of Obama’s economic plan they file bankruptcy just to get rid of the excess wealth. Too much bookkeeping to do.

Posted according to the theory that a Big Lie repeated often enough will be believed.


12 posted on 03/04/2010 8:36:20 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

A “consumer economy” is always a bllsht economy that encourages borrowing beyond your means to buy all those toys and goodies... and this is the endgame. Many of these bankruptcies are by people who are walking away from underwater houses. They can pay the mortgage but chose bankruptcy instead

Some states the courts are so busy and chaotic that creditors don’t show up. People are keeping automobiles, nice ones, that they bought via a loan


13 posted on 03/04/2010 8:37:07 AM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: CharacterCounts

My guess is 50% of these bankruptcies are people shucking off their “white elephant” homes


14 posted on 03/04/2010 8:39:12 AM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: dennisw
Hmm... so we can say it is “liquidation gridlock.”
Too many bankruptcy at the same time leading to some unexpected result: consumers get to keep their freebies indefinitely.
15 posted on 03/04/2010 5:20:00 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: dennisw
My guess is 50% of these bankruptcies are people shucking off their “white elephant” homes

There definitely is an advantage in surrendering an upside down home especially since in my state it takes up to a (rent free) before the debtors have to move out. However, most of my bankruptcy clients are filing because they have been very poor and careless at budgeting. Most of these homes are under water because a second mortgage was taken out to pay down credit card debt. Before that they borrowed against their 401(k) accounts to pay down CC debt.

I do a lot of bankruptcy work and am still amazed at the question I am most often asked: "How soon can we get credit cards."

16 posted on 03/04/2010 5:40:01 PM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: CharacterCounts
I do a lot of bankruptcy work and am still amazed at the question I am most often asked: "How soon can we get credit cards."

I am flabbergasted!! Just goes to show the mindset of many many people in the US....and we wonder why the goobermint is broke.

If more people simply followed Dave Ramsey's advice, a lot less crap (taxpayer $$$) would be eaten up. I have more CCard credit available than any sane person would use / need. I like keeping them (2) at 0 balance and only use them for online purchases or local durable goods purchases (appliances, furniture, etc). I never let the balances for those bigger ticket items remain longer than 4 months, otherwise, I just do w/o.

17 posted on 03/05/2010 5:34:13 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I was thinking about the consumer spending figures (spending up slightly) this morning and it suddenly hit me why this may be happening.

My wife and I still both have our jobs, but we have cut back spending considerably. But we sort of went on a binge a few weeks ago. It is like being on a diet and one day you just gotta have ice cream. What I am trying to say is that it is possible that those that still have at least some money and/or credit just got tired of not spending and went on a “binge” and now are either back to it, used all their credit, or all their money.

IOW, this may be a temporary bump followed by more decreases.


18 posted on 03/05/2010 7:02:19 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

>>One has nothing to do with the other.<<
Actually, I think they do. If it is made harder to file bankruptcy, but the bankruptcy rate continues to rise, it would be reasonable to infer that it would be even worse had they not changed the law.


19 posted on 03/05/2010 7:03:54 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: AAABEST
I'm wondering what "recovery" these a-holes are continually referring to.

Both stories are true. What we are seeing is the emergence of a Latin American style two-tier society. The surviving business owners, big companies, and government employees are now starting to do better. But a fairly large segment of the former middle class has no prospect of ever getting back to that level of economic success. They will be permanently left behind, due partly to a malicious liberal government (who like them that way) and partly to a major shift in an economy that no longer needs their skill sets. These left-behinds can take government benefits and become Peronista-type chronic complainers. Or they can starve. Doesn't matter either way to the Soros types at the top - they've gotten the fundamental division in American society that they wanted.

20 posted on 03/05/2010 7:11:28 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: RobRoy
That's a good point but if it were the point the author was trying to make, I think they would have said "In spite of".

The writing's pretty bad.

21 posted on 03/05/2010 8:28:45 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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