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Liberalizing church: Presbyterian Church USA Releasing Report Denouncing Isreal as 'Racist Nation'
Washington Times ^ | 3/4/10

Posted on 03/04/2010 8:03:15 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta

The Presbyterian Church in the United States (PCUSA) is about to release a report which denounces Israel as a 'racist' nation which has absolutely no historical, covenantal, or theological right to the Holy Land.

The report calls for the United States to withhold financial and military aid to Israel and for boycotts and sanctions against Israel.

The report also endorses a Palestinian 'right of return' and 'apologizes to Palestinians for even conceding that Israel has a right to exist.'

According to the press release, it also states that Israels history begins only with the Holocaust and that Israel is 'a nation mistakenly created by Western powers at the expense of the Palestinian people to solve the "Jewish problem"

"In 2004, this Church became the first mainline Protestant denomination in America to 'approve a policy of divestment from Israel.'

This was rescinded, but in 2008 the Church 'created a committee dominated by seven activists holding strong anti-Israel beliefs.

The lone member sympathetic to Israel, quit in protest when he saw their radical agenda.'

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: antisemitism; israel; liberalism; pcusa
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This denomination is not only pro-choice, but they offer abortion coverage to pastors and their families in their medical plan.
1 posted on 03/04/2010 8:03:15 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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“Presbyterians pay for the mandatory medical benefits plan designed and administered by the Board of Pensions of the PC(USA) with their tithes and offerings.

Most Presbyterians do not know that the contributions they make to the mission of the Church are used to provide abortion coverage for Presbyterian pastors and their dependents.

The BOP will not volunteer the information, but if you inquire, they will tell you that they have no exclusions on the abortion coverage.

They reimburse for any abortion for which a proper claim form is submitted.”

http://www.ppl.org/ROC_Winter99.html


2 posted on 03/04/2010 8:04:42 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Speaking of church, did Obambi find one yet?

Maybe one that can explain to him what a “christmas wishing tree” really is?


3 posted on 03/04/2010 8:05:04 AM PST by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Well, I guess it’s time to find a new church.


4 posted on 03/04/2010 8:07:29 AM PST by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: popdonnelly

When you preach against God’s chosen people, well your demise can’t be long coming.


5 posted on 03/04/2010 8:08:37 AM PST by cameraeye (A happy kafar!)
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To: popdonnelly
Well, I guess it’s time to find a new church.

I did.

6 posted on 03/04/2010 8:09:19 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Another formerly Christian denomination goes atheist.Sad but not surprising.
7 posted on 03/04/2010 8:09:29 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: popdonnelly

Well the Catholic church seems to be opening it’s arms to all disenfranchised Anglicans. Maybe the Lutherans are next. If so would love to have you.


8 posted on 03/04/2010 8:09:55 AM PST by hstacey (An ounce of pretension is worth a pound of manure...)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

And the founders of multi-culturalism thought that they could contain this virus so as to create only self hating whites. Horace Kallen rot in Heck.


9 posted on 03/04/2010 8:11:07 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

What a circus !!!

Archeologists are finding stuff every day pointing to the authenticity of the old testament, as well as more and more Hebrew artifacts... not just in Israel but throughout the whole region. Findings go back beyond 2000 years before Christ.....but there are many in the neighborhood who want to deny history and the facts.
Many are seeking to rewrite history...the asshat clan.


10 posted on 03/04/2010 8:12:01 AM PST by himno hero
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

The Oprahization of American Christianity continues.


11 posted on 03/04/2010 8:12:09 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

My husband was an Elder in the PCUSA - we left when they had the delegation that met with the Palestinians and began this attack on Israel. It is heartbreaking to see this happening to a Church that was an important part of our lives.


12 posted on 03/04/2010 8:12:18 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Those who claim to be open and tolerant are often only open to their own views, not yours)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

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God will judge them.


13 posted on 03/04/2010 8:12:41 AM PST by Touch Not the Cat
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To: Mr. K
Speaking of church, did Obambi find one yet?

Yup...every Sunday morning he can be found at a nearby Whole Foods store.The Communion wafers there are made with "exploitation-free" wheat and there's far less racism and imperialism preached there as well.And seldom is the word "God" heard uttered in the aisles.

14 posted on 03/04/2010 8:13:12 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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Their shortened title is PCUSA. That makes sense. Their statement is so ridiculous that I was looking to see if it was from “The Onion.”


15 posted on 03/04/2010 8:13:37 AM PST by MP5 (The Only Easy Day was Yesterday)
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My god, the Presbyterian Church has really gone off the deep end.

To claim that Israel has no historical or covenantal right to the Holy Land is spectacularly absurd.

In 1948, the Palestinians were given an opportunity to live almost side-by-side with the Jews. They, and the rest of the Arab world chose not to. They chose war. For the most part (with the exception of the old city of Jersualem), they lost.

For the sake of common sense, I hope the top leadership in the Presbyerian Church takes a look at this report and says “It does not reflect the thinking of a majority of Presbyerians. We apologize for the fact that anti-Israel activists chose our church as a vehicle to spew their nonsense”.


16 posted on 03/04/2010 8:15:29 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

*Ping


17 posted on 03/04/2010 8:15:56 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: MplsSteve
I hope the top leadership in the Presbyerian Church takes a look at this report and says “It does not reflect the thinking of a majority of Presbyerians. We apologize for the fact that anti-Israel activists chose our church as a vehicle to spew their nonsense”.

Unfortunately the top leadership has been taken over by democrats.

18 posted on 03/04/2010 8:18:08 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
The Presbyterian Church in the United States (PCUSA)

Yup!
19 posted on 03/04/2010 8:18:33 AM PST by dr_who
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Guess there will not be reconciliation without God’s enlightenment with my former Presbyterian friend and I. She agrees with her church on matters Israel and is a deacon in her church. Hence, we are no longer friends. Seems petty, but lives are at stake.


20 posted on 03/04/2010 8:19:55 AM PST by AmericaUnite
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
My husband was an Elder in the PCUSA - we left when they had the delegation that met with the Palestinians and began this attack on Israel. It is heartbreaking to see this happening to a Church that was an important part of our lives.

I grew up in this denomination, but I left. The hierarchy agrees with democrats on most things.

21 posted on 03/04/2010 8:21:05 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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Well, I guess it’s time to find a new church.
I did.

Which one? We had been attending a conservative PCUSA church which was out-of-step with the prevailing liberal mores at PCUSA itself. But we moved to another town.

22 posted on 03/04/2010 8:21:44 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: cameraeye

I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you.

Curse you, libs.


23 posted on 03/04/2010 8:21:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Ping


24 posted on 03/04/2010 8:22:11 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: AmericaUnite
Guess there will not be reconciliation without God’s enlightenment with my former Presbyterian friend and I. She agrees with her church on matters Israel and is a deacon in her church. Hence, we are no longer friends. Seems petty, but lives are at stake.

It's actually not petty.

25 posted on 03/04/2010 8:22:48 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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“Presbyterian Church USA Releasing Report Denouncing Isreal as ‘Racist Nation”

Ummmm....ok.

(note to self, stay the hell out of Presbyterian churches)


26 posted on 03/04/2010 8:23:47 AM PST by Grunthor (Does The Name "Obama" Appear In any Hawaii Birth Database?)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

...I just sent the following e-mail to the Stated Clerk at PCUSA in Louisville saying:

ARE YOU CRAZY?...our family has been Presbyterian since 1836...not any more...we’ll take our faith and money elsewhere.

Stonewalls...Deacon/husband of an Elder/son of Elders/Grandson of Clerks of Session


27 posted on 03/04/2010 8:24:20 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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The Presbyterian Church in the United States (PCUSA) is about to release a report which denounces Israel as a 'racist' nation which has absolutely no historical, covenantal, or theological right to the Holy Land.

REALLY? Has no one at the PCUSA read The Bible?

28 posted on 03/04/2010 8:26:08 AM PST by SaveTheChief (Hey Democrats - Can you hear us now?)
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To: martin_fierro

We became members of the Wesleyan Denomination. They are pro-life and conservative. The church we go to is thriving, full of families and children.

http://www.wesleyan.org/about


29 posted on 03/04/2010 8:27:06 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: STONEWALLS

Good for you!


30 posted on 03/04/2010 8:28:14 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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"The Presbyterian Church in the United States (PCUSA) is about to release a report which denounces Israel as a 'racist' nation which has absolutely no historical, covenantal, or theological right to the Holy Land."

Obvioulsy this bunch of Protestants doesn't believe in "sola scriptura" any more. I seem to recall a promise God made to Abraham.......

31 posted on 03/04/2010 8:28:22 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel (NRA))
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To: SaveTheChief
REALLY? Has no one at the PCUSA read The Bible?

Evidently not...

32 posted on 03/04/2010 8:29:19 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
All we can find in Santa Cruz County CA are "The First Church of Whatever, Dude" and "The Church of What's Happening Now".
33 posted on 03/04/2010 8:32:11 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: SaveTheChief
They reject the Bible, because the Truth therein contradicts their worldly (satanic/secular) worldview.

Check this out:

OPRAH'S NEW SPIRITUALITY, THE EMERGENT CHURCH AND THE SEDUCTION OF CHRISTIANITY

34 posted on 03/04/2010 8:34:04 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

We were good friends since 1964. We didn’t talk politics. She was my maid-of-honor. This rift began when the Presbyterians began this divestment push somewhere in the last ten years.


35 posted on 03/04/2010 8:35:40 AM PST by AmericaUnite
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To: Grunthor

This is about PCUSA. There is also EPC which is conservative.


36 posted on 03/04/2010 8:37:34 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: AmericaUnite

When I left the PCUSA, the pastor tried to convince me why gay marriage is a good thing!


37 posted on 03/04/2010 8:37:59 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: martin_fierro

Ours was conservative too Martin - but since we moved it has changed also. Old friends who are still members have been telling us how much the new minister has changed the atomosphere.


38 posted on 03/04/2010 8:39:08 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Those who claim to be open and tolerant are often only open to their own views, not yours)
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To: MrB

You got it, it’s all about Oprahization. Kymbaya all paths are right and valid we are the world “Christianity”...


39 posted on 03/04/2010 8:40:09 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I’m so glad I belong to a PCA Church.


40 posted on 03/04/2010 8:40:15 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Since the Bible specifically says that God will bless those who bless Israel, the PCUSA is pitting themselves and their political correctness against God Himself!


41 posted on 03/04/2010 8:41:07 AM PST by LiteKeeper ("It's the peoples' seat!")
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Or Israel


42 posted on 03/04/2010 8:42:06 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ejonesie22

Christianity IS exclusive.

If you don’t believe the exclusivity of Christ’s sacrifice for our sins,

you’re simply NOT A CHRISTIAN.


43 posted on 03/04/2010 8:43:28 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

No thanks.


44 posted on 03/04/2010 8:44:32 AM PST by SaveTheChief (Hey Democrats - Can you hear us now?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

PCA also broke away from PCUSA back in the 70s (I think) because they were too liberal, theologically. Our PCA Church is quite conservative.


45 posted on 03/04/2010 8:44:34 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: MrB

This is true. I don’t get why people don’t *get* that.


46 posted on 03/04/2010 8:45:30 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: SaveTheChief

It’s Brannon Howse,

EXPOSING

the emergent church.

It’s not promoting the emergent church by any means.


47 posted on 03/04/2010 8:45:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Grunthor
(note to self, stay the hell out of Presbyterian churches)

If you would happen to go there, they're so desperate for members, they'd be thrilled to see you.

48 posted on 03/04/2010 8:46:05 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: MrB
Exactly. Christ was very clear about that.

Of course such things are not “trendy” now...

Don't want to hurt anyone’s self esteem or question their beliefs, that is just not fair. Beside who are we to say that druids, wiccans and even Muslims and Scientolisit may not be right...

Piffle...

49 posted on 03/04/2010 8:47:12 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Do you think it might be helpful, for those who wish to learn more, if you posted a link to the blog from which this short excerpt was lifted?

Here it is:
Presbyterians Usher in the Jewish Holiday of Purim

Also, note that Ms. Chesler's source is a news release dated Feb. 22, 2010 from the Simon Wiesenthal Center. I would suspect that news releases can be quoted in full on FreeRepublic or other media without fear of reprisal, as that is what the releasers usually hope will happen.

Excerpting a news article which quotes a blog which contains comments on a news release seems like a cumbersome and incomplete way of getting the story out to FReepers. Why not go directly to the source?

50 posted on 03/04/2010 8:49:01 AM PST by logician2u
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