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Awesome: GOP congressman to delay resignation so he can vote no on ObamaCare- Nathan Deal of Georgia
Hot Air ^ | March 4, 2010 4:15 pm | Allahpundit

Posted on 03/04/2010 1:27:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yesterday they needed 216 to pass it, now they need 217. Like Ace says: Nomentum.

U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal will delay his resignation from Congress by three weeks, citing intense pressure from House Republican leaders to remain and vote against President Barack Obama’s plan to overhaul the nation’s health care system…

News of Deal’s decision was inadvertently broken by U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, who congratulated Deal on his decision.

On Monday, before 100 supporters at the Gainesville Civic Center, Deal said he would leave Congress, effective March 8, in order to devote all his time to his campaign for governor.

Obama could in theory push the vote back into April or May to wait Deal out and force him to resign before the bill comes to the floor, but after Gibbs set a deadline of March 18 for passage this morning, he’ll look like an even weaker chump than usual if he does that.

A quick Democratic head count: Shelley Berkley, who voted yes in November, is a likely no this time. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin and Frank Kratovil — who was named in that dopey AP piece a few days ago as a possible flip to yes — voted no last time and say they’re voting that way again. The only way to flip all three? The Senate has to pass Obama’s “fix” to Reid’s Senate bill before the House votes on anything. If they do it the other way, with the House passing Reid’s bill first, there’s a chance that reconciliation could collapse in the Senate, leaving the House stuck with the Reid bill they pretty much all hate (albeit for different reasons).

Geraghty’s been doing yeoman’s work trying to figure out precisely what has to happen for Pelosi to get to 217. According to his latest calculation, every last pro-life Democrat who’s threatening to vote no with Stupak this time would have to flip to yes; if even one of them votes no — which seems exceedingly likely — it’s all over. And that assumes that House progressives will fall in line and stick with their yes votes from November. By no means is that a sure thing; remember, Raul Grijalva says he’s “pretty certain” that several liberals are ready to walk away this time. In fact, Roll Call claims they were pestering The One at last night’s White House health-care huddle about possibly reviving, er, the public option. Good luck with that, champ. The long and short of it is, unless I’ve missed a story somewhere, not a single Democrat who voted no before has committed to flipping to yes this time. The momentum is entirely the other way.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; georgia; nathandeal; obamacare
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1 posted on 03/04/2010 1:27:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I called his office mad as heck yesterday and told them ethics violation or not he would not get my vote for governor if he left before this vote was taken.


2 posted on 03/04/2010 1:30:51 PM PST by Dacula (Evil succeeds when good men do nothing. Lets do something.)
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To: Dacula

Thanks....this was exactly what I questioned yesterday.

Glad to see he’s going to hang in there till the vote.


3 posted on 03/04/2010 1:32:01 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Very good news!


4 posted on 03/04/2010 1:32:30 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Helpful, but Obama is obsessed and will eventually have it postponed if he needs to.
Everyone knows he's a extreme leftist bone head, so moving a vote date doesn't make people think less of him because there is no lower opinion of Obama possible.
5 posted on 03/04/2010 1:32:39 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Dacula

I’m so glad you called. Thank you, on behalf of all the good peple of America! FR Eagles Up!


6 posted on 03/04/2010 1:33:11 PM PST by STD (-Obama's Riding Upon The Pale Trojan Horse of Islam)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I would think a no vote on the obamacare monstrosity would be a big boost in his campaign for governor. Whereas resigning would improve the chances for obamacare and be a real thorn in the side for his campaign.


7 posted on 03/04/2010 1:33:34 PM PST by Need4Truth (We can't afford the empire or the entitlements.)
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To: onyx; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

Hang in there, NATHAN !!!


8 posted on 03/04/2010 1:33:39 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

When will Obama try to pass Obamacare by executive order? I predict the first week in May. Government comes apart subsequently. Get those generators installed.


9 posted on 03/04/2010 1:34:25 PM PST by pabianice
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Citing health care, Deal delays departure from Congress

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3:17 pm March 4, 2010, by Jim Galloway

U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal will delay his resignation from Congress by three weeks, citing intense pressure from House Republican leaders to remain and vote against President Barack Obama’s plan to overhaul the nation’s health care system.

From the press release issued by the north Georgia congressman:

“Just two days after I announced my intentions to leave Congress, the majority party stepped up the schedule for the proposed health care bill. Having been deeply involved in all health care legislation for the past decade, I knew it was important to stay and vote down this bill….

“Yesterday, as I listened to President Obama’s aggressive push for a quick vote on ‘Obama-Care,’ it was clear that I must stay in Congress and continue to fight against the most liberal health care agenda ever proposed.”

A spokesman for Deal said the congressman was urged by House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) — as well as Gov. Sonny Perdue — to remain for the health care vote.

The Deal campaign released a statement from Boehner, which reads in part:


10 posted on 03/04/2010 1:34:28 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Kratovil is going to lose in Maryland’s 1st. Voting for the bill will only make the loss that much bigger. Hopefully he will (foolishly) think he has a chance and will therefore vote no to reflect his constituents.


11 posted on 03/04/2010 1:35:07 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Something to ponder..as they get closer to the vote, EVERYONE will start to declare themselves..and if it’s one vote short, by a hard count..then a lot of Dems..the Blue Dogs especially, will say WHY shoudl I vote for it in a losing cause, and piss off the people back home..when the bill loses..it’s lose by 40-50 votes..if not more


12 posted on 03/04/2010 1:35:21 PM PST by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Honestly, Deal is going to have to stay in office indefinitely. If he delays his resignation a few weeks, Pelosi can just schedule another vote after that.


13 posted on 03/04/2010 1:36:05 PM PST by arista
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To: STARWISE

Awesome news! He will have to be like a bulldog...never letting go till it’s time to! We need men of courage like this in both houses of congress!


14 posted on 03/04/2010 1:38:24 PM PST by LUV W (DIMs?......start packin'--you're fired!)
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To: ken5050

Good analysis/prognosis.

Hope you’re right.

As long as the vote isn’t brought to the floor they don’t have the votes to pass it.


15 posted on 03/04/2010 1:40:05 PM PST by hattend (The era of John McCain is over, the era of Ronald Reagan is back! Go Sarah Go!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"HOLD THE LINE"
16 posted on 03/04/2010 1:40:33 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: ken5050
With cap and trade going down,...Obama is looking more and more like a LAME DUCK President....

Related thread:

Senator Graham calls cap-and-trade plan dead

And:

US Sen. Rockefeller seeks EPA carbon rule delay

17 posted on 03/04/2010 1:40:38 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The only way to flip all three? The Senate has to pass Obama’s “fix” to Reid’s Senate bill before the House votes on anything.

Obama can never be trusted, even with that scenario, which would require Obama to sign both bills at the same time. I would not put it past him to veto the reconciliation bill and sign the Senate bill.

18 posted on 03/04/2010 1:40:45 PM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if people follow. Otherwise, you just wandered off.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Never give a timetable for withdrawal.

He should stay until the mission is accomplished and the USA achieves victory!


19 posted on 03/04/2010 1:40:52 PM PST by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: LUV W

By his claws .....
Knowing this, they’ll be playing
their damn games.


20 posted on 03/04/2010 1:42:03 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: hattend

That’s the question..but, IMJHO, it has to come for a vote..if she doesn’t bring it to the floor for a vote..the left/netroots base will go apes**t..


21 posted on 03/04/2010 1:42:27 PM PST by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

bttt


22 posted on 03/04/2010 1:42:54 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“I think he hurt Joe Frazier. I think Joe is hurt...Angie Dundee, Ali’s trainer right next to me is saying it, you may hear him—DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!”


23 posted on 03/04/2010 1:42:58 PM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Jay is getting nervous...


24 posted on 03/04/2010 1:44:16 PM PST by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Senate has to pass Obama’s “fix” to Reid’s Senate bill before the House votes on anything.

In the next few weeks if not the next few days I expect the idea that the Senate will pass a Reconciliation Bill prior to a House vote on the Senate version of ObamaCare will rise steadily to the forefront of discussions.

The reason why: It is the Dems ONLY SOLUTION. And it is, very likely ILLEGAL. If not illegal it is certainly in violation of the Senate rules which require that the use of the reconciliation process is only allowed to make certain types of modifications to EXISTING LAW. Until the House passes the bill and Obama signs it there is no LAW. So the Dems can't put the buggy in front of the horse. But of course they will try. It is the only choice they have left.

So get out the popcorn and start watching for the Dems to begin explaining why what I wrote above is not really true in this case. You read it here first. You will soon be reading about it in the WSJ and listening to discussions about it on Fox News.

25 posted on 03/04/2010 1:46:07 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

“The only way to flip all three? The Senate has to pass Obama’s “fix” to Reid’s Senate bill before the House votes on anything.”

Excellent point. Voting for the full bill at first means the Senate could just IGNORE reconciliation and send it off to Obama.

Why? When both houses vote on the same bill, it’s past. It’s over.

The only reason for the talk of reconciliation is the ‘promise’ to to it.

But, if you don’t pass the “fix” first....that’s nothing but empty words.

And while the fix is better (tons better), it has a lot of problems and still is basically Obama ramming his lefty agenda through...


26 posted on 03/04/2010 1:46:12 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Dacula

He won’t get my vote anyway. Oxendine all the way, baby.


27 posted on 03/04/2010 1:47:02 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: icwhatudo

Rematch with Andy Harris?


28 posted on 03/04/2010 1:47:30 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: ken5050
The Senate has to pass Obama’s “fix” to Reid’s Senate bill before the House votes on anything.

We will never know. If Pelosi can't pass it she will not call for a vote.

29 posted on 03/04/2010 1:48:30 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: icwhatudo

I caught him on Greta last night..sounded like he was going to vote against it..was his race close last time?


30 posted on 03/04/2010 1:48:43 PM PST by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: darkangel82

Yep.


31 posted on 03/04/2010 1:48:54 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: InterceptPoint

see my #21


32 posted on 03/04/2010 1:49:31 PM PST by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: arista
As I understand, the reason for the March date was so that the whole pant load could be wrapped up before they leave for Easter recess. Once they come back (if they do) home for Easter recess, the folks back home will bring tar, feathers, pitchforks, and torches. If they thought the summer Tea Parties were tough, wait until the Easter recess as last summer will seem like a Sunday picnic.
The only hope Pelosi has is to get them to vote before the big "meet and greet" back home. Once they return from the recess, many will be followed by voters with boxes and moving vans...to help them pack.
33 posted on 03/04/2010 1:49:42 PM PST by TxAg1981
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To: wilco200

LOL


34 posted on 03/04/2010 1:49:45 PM PST by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Obama could in theory push the vote back into April or May to wait Deal out and force him to resign before the bill comes to the floor...”

Oh please do, Zero. In fact wait until October and ask Congress to do nothing else until then. This would be such a nice October Surprise for voters.


35 posted on 03/04/2010 1:49:57 PM PST by rod1
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To: Dacula

They have to get it done in the next few weeks because the reconciliation window in the Senate closes in April. After that they won’t be able to use it. At least that’s what I’ve been reading but you know how it goes when it comes to democrats and rules.


36 posted on 03/04/2010 1:50:37 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: pabianice

“When will Obama try to pass Obamacare by executive order? I predict the first week in May. Government comes apart subsequently. Get those generators installed.”


I do think you have something there. I have detected more and more his willingness to just order something done executive orders if he can’t get his way with the congress.


37 posted on 03/04/2010 1:51:19 PM PST by The Working Man (Any work is better than "welfare")
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To: WOBBLY BOB

EASTER RESURRECTION: VOTE BOLT THREAT OVER ABORTION

38 posted on 03/04/2010 1:51:38 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

...Gibbs set a deadline of March 18 for passage this morning....

Why are they doing this during Great Lent, when many of us have been giving up our “bashing” Internet comments?


39 posted on 03/04/2010 1:51:56 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: rwfromkansas
But, if you don’t pass the “fix” first....that’s nothing but empty words.

Not possible. See my post #25

40 posted on 03/04/2010 1:52:28 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
On Monday, before 100 supporters at the Gainesville Civic Center, Deal said he would leave Congress, effective March 8, in order to devote all his time to his campaign for governor

Why does this guy even have to resign at all?
Heck, 0bama run for president of the entire country and still never resigned from the US Senate till he was about to rake office. This fool just doesn't get it. This vote is about the end of America as we know it. Where does the Republican Party keep picking up these dunderheads from anyways? They have no clue about the strategic importance of anything. It's all about him, and screw everyone else. What a selfish fellow.

41 posted on 03/04/2010 1:54:10 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: All
More detail regarding post #38:

Pelosi: Lawmaker healthcare concerns can be satisfied---REALLY?

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Thu Mar 4, 12:15 pm ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Thursday she was confident of satisfying Democratic concerns about a Senate-approved healthcare bill and passing the measure.

Pelosi made the comment at her weekly news conference -- just hours after one lawmaker said a dozen House Democrats opposed to abortion were willing to kill the legislation unless it satisfies their demand for language barring federal funding of the procedure.

Their threat to kill healthcare reform came a day after President Barack Obama launched a final push to pass the overhaul, a top domestic priority, and urged Democrats in Congress to vote on the bill this month, even without Republican support.

Pelosi voiced confidence that Democrats will prevail over what she said was Republican obstructionism and win passage of landmark legislation that Obama will sign into law.

42 posted on 03/04/2010 1:55:32 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh how I love to see the pubs act with conviction.

I mock them when they don’t, when they man the tanning booths and pray for DC cocktail party invites. I poke fun at their perfectly coiffed hair where not one strand should ever leave its appointed place and, of course, the perfectly polished nails. But naturally I curse and moan that exercise the Senate pubs practice with zeal, this reaching across the aisle.

Thus i must jump for joy at this effort. The pubs are sticking it out and I know their knees are shaking.

HANG IN THERE PUBS. IF THE HEAD HAIRS GET MUSSED, WE FORGIVE.


43 posted on 03/04/2010 1:55:33 PM PST by Fishtalk
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To: ken5050
see my #21

My reasons for saying that Pelosi will not call for a vote unless she knows it will pass are these:

You can't call it up twice. Once defeated it is dead. So if she calls it up to a sure defeat that is the end for ObamaCare 2010.

There is the real risk that post the November elections you will have a lot of lame duck Dems who would have voted NO but will give one for the team on their way out and vote YES and Obamacare will pass sometime in late November or early December. If Pelosi votes now and loses she will not have the opportunity to test that idea out.

44 posted on 03/04/2010 1:58:32 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: The Working Man
I do think you have something there. I have detected more and more his willingness to just order something done executive orders if he can’t get his way with the congress.

Demagoguery. Signs of delusion, grandeur, and insanity. The man child throws a hissy fit and a tantrum cause he can't get his way.
Let him try that, and he will swiftly find out this is not Zimbabwe or his fatherland Kenya.

45 posted on 03/04/2010 1:58:49 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Fishtalk

LOL!


46 posted on 03/04/2010 2:01:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: InterceptPoint

The House must pass the Senate bill first. The Senate cannot reconcile with no exact bill in the other chamber.

There is even question as to whether BO has to sign the Senate bill into law (assuming the House votes for the Senate bill as is) b4 they take up any reconciliation measure.


47 posted on 03/04/2010 2:03:43 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: A CA Guy

If he waits, he’ll probably pick up a couple of new democrat votes from special elections, but who knows if they will be willing to sacrifice their careers immediately for health care?


48 posted on 03/04/2010 2:03:48 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I don’t even care if he never shows up for work again, except to vote no on the bill.


49 posted on 03/04/2010 2:04:44 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They can’t really set the deadline back to April or May because they have to declare by April 1, I believe, to use reconciliation. If they don’t then the jig is up. The threat of reconciliation is only a ploy by Reid, Pelosi, and Obama to buy off House votes for the passage of the senate bill.


50 posted on 03/04/2010 2:04:54 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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