Skip to comments.Awesome: GOP congressman to delay resignation so he can vote no on ObamaCare- Nathan Deal of Georgia
Posted on 03/04/2010 1:27:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yesterday they needed 216 to pass it, now they need 217. Like Ace says: Nomentum.
U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal will delay his resignation from Congress by three weeks, citing intense pressure from House Republican leaders to remain and vote against President Barack Obamas plan to overhaul the nations health care system
News of Deals decision was inadvertently broken by U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, who congratulated Deal on his decision.
On Monday, before 100 supporters at the Gainesville Civic Center, Deal said he would leave Congress, effective March 8, in order to devote all his time to his campaign for governor.
Obama could in theory push the vote back into April or May to wait Deal out and force him to resign before the bill comes to the floor, but after Gibbs set a deadline of March 18 for passage this morning, hell look like an even weaker chump than usual if he does that.
A quick Democratic head count: Shelley Berkley, who voted yes in November, is a likely no this time. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin and Frank Kratovil who was named in that dopey AP piece a few days ago as a possible flip to yes voted no last time and say theyre voting that way again. The only way to flip all three? The Senate has to pass Obamas fix to Reids Senate bill before the House votes on anything. If they do it the other way, with the House passing Reids bill first, theres a chance that reconciliation could collapse in the Senate, leaving the House stuck with the Reid bill they pretty much all hate (albeit for different reasons).
Geraghtys been doing yeomans work trying to figure out precisely what has to happen for Pelosi to get to 217. According to his latest calculation, every last pro-life Democrat whos threatening to vote no with Stupak this time would have to flip to yes; if even one of them votes no which seems exceedingly likely its all over. And that assumes that House progressives will fall in line and stick with their yes votes from November. By no means is that a sure thing; remember, Raul Grijalva says hes pretty certain that several liberals are ready to walk away this time. In fact, Roll Call claims they were pestering The One at last nights White House health-care huddle about possibly reviving, er, the public option. Good luck with that, champ. The long and short of it is, unless Ive missed a story somewhere, not a single Democrat who voted no before has committed to flipping to yes this time. The momentum is entirely the other way.
I called his office mad as heck yesterday and told them ethics violation or not he would not get my vote for governor if he left before this vote was taken.
Thanks....this was exactly what I questioned yesterday.
Glad to see he’s going to hang in there till the vote.
Very good news!
I’m so glad you called. Thank you, on behalf of all the good peple of America! FR Eagles Up!
I would think a no vote on the obamacare monstrosity would be a big boost in his campaign for governor. Whereas resigning would improve the chances for obamacare and be a real thorn in the side for his campaign.
Hang in there, NATHAN !!!
When will Obama try to pass Obamacare by executive order? I predict the first week in May. Government comes apart subsequently. Get those generators installed.
3:17 pm March 4, 2010, by
U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal will delay his resignation from Congress by three weeks, citing intense pressure from House Republican leaders to remain and vote against President Barack Obamas plan to overhaul the nations health care system.
From the press release issued by the north Georgia congressman:
Just two days after I announced my intentions to leave Congress, the majority party stepped up the schedule for the proposed health care bill. Having been deeply involved in all health care legislation for the past decade, I knew it was important to stay and vote down this bill .
Yesterday, as I listened to President Obamas aggressive push for a quick vote on Obama-Care, it was clear that I must stay in Congress and continue to fight against the most liberal health care agenda ever proposed.
A spokesman for Deal said the congressman was urged by House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) as well as Gov. Sonny Perdue to remain for the health care vote.
The Deal campaign released a statement from Boehner, which reads in part:
Kratovil is going to lose in Maryland’s 1st. Voting for the bill will only make the loss that much bigger. Hopefully he will (foolishly) think he has a chance and will therefore vote no to reflect his constituents.
Something to ponder..as they get closer to the vote, EVERYONE will start to declare themselves..and if it’s one vote short, by a hard count..then a lot of Dems..the Blue Dogs especially, will say WHY shoudl I vote for it in a losing cause, and piss off the people back home..when the bill loses..it’s lose by 40-50 votes..if not more
Honestly, Deal is going to have to stay in office indefinitely. If he delays his resignation a few weeks, Pelosi can just schedule another vote after that.
Awesome news! He will have to be like a bulldog...never letting go till it’s time to! We need men of courage like this in both houses of congress!
Hope you’re right.
As long as the vote isn’t brought to the floor they don’t have the votes to pass it.
Obama can never be trusted, even with that scenario, which would require Obama to sign both bills at the same time. I would not put it past him to veto the reconciliation bill and sign the Senate bill.
Never give a timetable for withdrawal.
He should stay until the mission is accomplished and the USA achieves victory!
By his claws .....
Knowing this, they’ll be playing
their damn games.
That’s the question..but, IMJHO, it has to come for a vote..if she doesn’t bring it to the floor for a vote..the left/netroots base will go apes**t..
“I think he hurt Joe Frazier. I think Joe is hurt...Angie Dundee, Ali’s trainer right next to me is saying it, you may hear him—DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!”
Jay is getting nervous...
In the next few weeks if not the next few days I expect the idea that the Senate will pass a Reconciliation Bill prior to a House vote on the Senate version of ObamaCare will rise steadily to the forefront of discussions.
The reason why: It is the Dems ONLY SOLUTION. And it is, very likely ILLEGAL. If not illegal it is certainly in violation of the Senate rules which require that the use of the reconciliation process is only allowed to make certain types of modifications to EXISTING LAW. Until the House passes the bill and Obama signs it there is no LAW. So the Dems can't put the buggy in front of the horse. But of course they will try. It is the only choice they have left.
So get out the popcorn and start watching for the Dems to begin explaining why what I wrote above is not really true in this case. You read it here first. You will soon be reading about it in the WSJ and listening to discussions about it on Fox News.
“The only way to flip all three? The Senate has to pass Obamas fix to Reids Senate bill before the House votes on anything.”
Excellent point. Voting for the full bill at first means the Senate could just IGNORE reconciliation and send it off to Obama.
Why? When both houses vote on the same bill, it’s past. It’s over.
The only reason for the talk of reconciliation is the ‘promise’ to to it.
But, if you don’t pass the “fix” first....that’s nothing but empty words.
And while the fix is better (tons better), it has a lot of problems and still is basically Obama ramming his lefty agenda through...
He won’t get my vote anyway. Oxendine all the way, baby.
Rematch with Andy Harris?
We will never know. If Pelosi can't pass it she will not call for a vote.
I caught him on Greta last night..sounded like he was going to vote against it..was his race close last time?
see my #21
“Obama could in theory push the vote back into April or May to wait Deal out and force him to resign before the bill comes to the floor...”
Oh please do, Zero. In fact wait until October and ask Congress to do nothing else until then. This would be such a nice October Surprise for voters.
They have to get it done in the next few weeks because the reconciliation window in the Senate closes in April. After that they won’t be able to use it. At least that’s what I’ve been reading but you know how it goes when it comes to democrats and rules.
“When will Obama try to pass Obamacare by executive order? I predict the first week in May. Government comes apart subsequently. Get those generators installed.”
I do think you have something there. I have detected more and more his willingness to just order something done executive orders if he can’t get his way with the congress.
...Gibbs set a deadline of March 18 for passage this morning....
Why are they doing this during Great Lent, when many of us have been giving up our “bashing” Internet comments?
Not possible. See my post #25
Why does this guy even have to resign at all?
Heck, 0bama run for president of the entire country and still never resigned from the US Senate till he was about to rake office. This fool just doesn't get it. This vote is about the end of America as we know it. Where does the Republican Party keep picking up these dunderheads from anyways? They have no clue about the strategic importance of anything. It's all about him, and screw everyone else. What a selfish fellow.
Thu Mar 4, 12:15 pm ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Thursday she was confident of satisfying Democratic concerns about a Senate-approved healthcare bill and passing the measure.
Pelosi made the comment at her weekly news conference -- just hours after one lawmaker said a dozen House Democrats opposed to abortion were willing to kill the legislation unless it satisfies their demand for language barring federal funding of the procedure.
Their threat to kill healthcare reform came a day after President Barack Obama launched a final push to pass the overhaul, a top domestic priority, and urged Democrats in Congress to vote on the bill this month, even without Republican support.
Pelosi voiced confidence that Democrats will prevail over what she said was Republican obstructionism and win passage of landmark legislation that Obama will sign into law.
Oh how I love to see the pubs act with conviction.
I mock them when they don’t, when they man the tanning booths and pray for DC cocktail party invites. I poke fun at their perfectly coiffed hair where not one strand should ever leave its appointed place and, of course, the perfectly polished nails. But naturally I curse and moan that exercise the Senate pubs practice with zeal, this reaching across the aisle.
Thus i must jump for joy at this effort. The pubs are sticking it out and I know their knees are shaking.
HANG IN THERE PUBS. IF THE HEAD HAIRS GET MUSSED, WE FORGIVE.
My reasons for saying that Pelosi will not call for a vote unless she knows it will pass are these:
You can't call it up twice. Once defeated it is dead. So if she calls it up to a sure defeat that is the end for ObamaCare 2010.
There is the real risk that post the November elections you will have a lot of lame duck Dems who would have voted NO but will give one for the team on their way out and vote YES and Obamacare will pass sometime in late November or early December. If Pelosi votes now and loses she will not have the opportunity to test that idea out.
Demagoguery. Signs of delusion, grandeur, and insanity. The man child throws a hissy fit and a tantrum cause he can't get his way.
Let him try that, and he will swiftly find out this is not Zimbabwe or his fatherland Kenya.
The House must pass the Senate bill first. The Senate cannot reconcile with no exact bill in the other chamber.
There is even question as to whether BO has to sign the Senate bill into law (assuming the House votes for the Senate bill as is) b4 they take up any reconciliation measure.
If he waits, he’ll probably pick up a couple of new democrat votes from special elections, but who knows if they will be willing to sacrifice their careers immediately for health care?
I don’t even care if he never shows up for work again, except to vote no on the bill.
They can’t really set the deadline back to April or May because they have to declare by April 1, I believe, to use reconciliation. If they don’t then the jig is up. The threat of reconciliation is only a ploy by Reid, Pelosi, and Obama to buy off House votes for the passage of the senate bill.