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Mitt Romney on Health Care Overhaul (Your World with Neil Cavuto)
FoxNews.com ^ | 03-05-10 | Neil Cavuto

Posted on 03/05/2010 11:17:37 AM PST by GOP_Lady

NEIL CAVUTO, ANCHOR: More closed-door meetings on health care. The president and members of his own party now pow-wowing in private over the very next move.

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney telling me they’re doing it all wrong. And he knows. He overhauled health care when he was running Massachusetts and says that his plan was nothing like the president’s now.

More of my chat with Mitt Romney and his wife, Ann.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


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1 posted on 03/05/2010 11:17:38 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Video here:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4071389/mitt-romney-on-health-care-overhaul


2 posted on 03/05/2010 11:18:42 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Yeah, he knows about doing it wrong... because he helped do it wrong in MA.

Politicians, I don’t trust a one of them.


3 posted on 03/05/2010 11:19:00 AM PST by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: GOP_Lady
Amazing...

But perhaps Mitt has a point.

Maybe if they follow Mitts advice Obamacare can lose money at least as fast as Romneycare...

4 posted on 03/05/2010 11:20:58 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: brownsfan
IMHO, Mitt can't get the nomination unless he finally admits he was wrong on Romneycare and won't duplicate it at the federal level.
5 posted on 03/05/2010 11:22:50 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: GOP_Lady

My man, Neil! :-)


6 posted on 03/05/2010 11:26:27 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Poor Mitt , chasing his daddy’s ghost for a dream that will NEVER be.


7 posted on 03/05/2010 11:28:08 AM PST by RED SOUTH
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To: GOP_Lady

“Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney telling me they’re doing it all wrong. And he knows...”

...because he did it wrong, too.


8 posted on 03/05/2010 11:30:16 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: GOP_Lady
Mitt Romney did win an election once, and we got to see him in action, it wasn't pretty.

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9 posted on 03/05/2010 11:38:27 AM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: GOP_Lady

Your boy Mitt just can’t admit that his health care ‘reform’ is anything but.


10 posted on 03/05/2010 11:57:53 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: ansel12
That is funny. Even a blind monkey wins more often on FR
than tyrant, shapeshift RomneyCARE.

RESULTS – Feb. 2010 Early Freerepublic.com straw vote FOR GOP PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION
Governor Palin was the overwhelming choice of freepers who voted!

Palin - 102 votes - THE WINNER
None Of The Above - 12 votes
Barbour - 10 votes
Hunter - 8 votes
Demint - 7 votes
Pence - 3 votes
Ryan - 3 votes
Jindal - 2 votes
Jeb Bush - 2 votes
Liz Cheney - 2 votes
Mitch Daniels - 2 votes
Newt Gingrich - 2 votes
Thune, Gary Johnson, Joe Wilson, Scott Brown and rick Perry all got a vote.
No Votes for Mitt RomneyCARE or Ron Paul or Huckabee .... 0 votes (none, zed, nada, doughnut, oh-no) “


11 posted on 03/05/2010 12:19:46 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GOP_Lady

Romney=RINOmney


12 posted on 03/05/2010 12:26:41 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: GOP_Lady

And this guy is the leading candidate for the GOP in 2012?

Really? His idea was/is better?

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2009/03/02/mass_healthcare_reform_is_failing_us/

Let us make sure this RINO doesn’t see the light of day (politically) EVER AGAIN!


13 posted on 03/05/2010 12:34:03 PM PST by chichipow
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To: GOP_Lady

“M. ROMNEY: Well, the model I’d use is this. Let states solve the problem of getting people insured. Not the federal government. Let each state create their own program based upon their own needs.”

This seems to be a good first start, then the models can be studied to see what works best. Seems that tort reform and insurance reform (medical savings accounts would be an option) would relieve the pressures driving costs upward. mandentory medical care also drives up costs which have to be absorbed by the medical facility (many have closed because of this or covered by the taxpayer, states can also determine the best method to deal with this.

Also see it didn’t take long for the creative keywords to appear. See “fisters4romney”, guess “queers4romney” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464810/posts wii be next.


14 posted on 03/05/2010 12:36:32 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: GOP_Lady
He overhauled health care when he was running Massachusetts and says that his plan was nothing like the president’s now.
The back peddling begins, he also said it was bipartisan. So which is it?

Watch Mrs. Romney, she looks very uncomfortable.

15 posted on 03/05/2010 12:47:58 PM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: GOP_Lady

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16 posted on 03/05/2010 1:09:58 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Peter Horry
Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.

Sedalia, Colo. - In his recent speech to Congress, President Obama could have promoted
healthcare reforms that tapped the power of a truly free market to lower costs and
improve access. Instead, he chose to offer a national version of the failing
"Massachusetts plan" based on mandatory health insurance. This is a recipe for disaster.

Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite –
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care.

Under any system of mandatory insurance, the government must necessarily define what
constitutes acceptable insurance. In Massachusetts, this has created a giant magnet for
special interest groups seeking to have their own pet benefits included in the required
package. Massachusetts residents are thus forced to purchase benefits they may neither
need nor want, such as in vitro fertilization, chiropractor services, and autism treatment –
raising insurance costs for everyone to reward a few with sufficient political "pull."

Although similar problems exist in other states, Massachusetts' system of mandatory
insurance delivers the entire state population to the special interests. ."


"‘Severe’ doc shortage seen hiking wait time The Boston Herald ^ | 9/15/09 | Christine McConville As the state’s shortage of primary care doctors grows, people are waiting longer for medical care, according to a new survey by the Massachusetts Medical Society. “The shortage is getting more severe,” said Dr. Mario Motta, the medical society’s president. The state’s health care dilemma can serve as a valuable lesson for a nation whose residents are locked in a frenzied debate about health care reform, he added."


“Health costs to rise again.( RomneyCare )
The state’s major health insurers plan to raise premiums by about 10 percent next year,
prompting many employers to reduce benefits and shift additional costs to workers.
The higher insurance costs undermine a key tenet of the state’s landmark health care law
passed two years ago, as well as President Obama’s effort to overhaul health care. In
addition to mandating insurance for most residents, the Massachusetts bill sought to rein
in health care costs. With Washington looking to the Massachusetts experience, fears
about higher costs have become a stumbling block to passing a national health care bill.”

17 posted on 03/05/2010 1:12:06 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GailA

Thank you, Gail. :-)


18 posted on 03/05/2010 1:12:09 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: ejonesie22

Or Tenncare? They’ve had to cut/gut it more than once since it’s been enacted. They are in the process of cut/gutting it again.

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html

Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors

Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464538/posts

MILITARY & Retired MILITARY
Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464680/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.
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Health Reform 3.0 - Lipstick On A Pig
Friday, March 05, 2010 3:05:55 PM · 5 of 5
GailA to raptor22

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html

Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors

Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464538/posts

MILITARY & Retired MILITARY
Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464680/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


19 posted on 03/05/2010 1:12:40 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Peter Horry
“DEATH PANELS OPEN FOR BUSINESS IN MASSACHUSETTS
In August Sarah Palin wrote extensively about the incredible danger that ObamaCare
would lead to what amounts to “death panels.” This of course caused great controversy
with many claiming Palin was either “crazy” or talking about the “end of life”
discussions that were provided for within House Resolution 3200, the prototype
ObamaCare bill.
As more Americans delve into the disturbing details of the nationalized health care plan
that the current administration is rushing through Congress, our collective jaw is
dropping, and we’re saying not just no, but hell no!

The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of
health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care
will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the
most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The
America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down
Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can
decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether
they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil. .
Now we have news from Massachusetts, the home of RomneyCare, which should be
looked at as a shining example of why ObamaCare will be an epic failure. Soaring costs
both to the taxpayers and patients was inevitable, and now the effects of these are coming home to roost.
You can’t reap these savings without limiting patients’ choices in some way,”


“Sunstein: Take organs from 'helpless patients'
TEL AVIV – President Obama's newly confirmed regulatory czar defended the
possibility of removing organs from terminally ill patients without their permission.”


“Customers will pay big for health fix: insurers
WASHINGTON -- The insurance industry yesterday charged that the proposed Senate
health-care bill would shift costs to privately insured people, raising the price of a typical
policy by hundreds -- if not thousands -- of dollars annually. The trade group America's

Health Insurance Plans sent its members a new accounting-firm study that projects the
legislation would add $1,700 a year to the cost of family coverage in 2013. Premiums for
a single person would go up by $600 more than would be the case without the legislation,
it concluded. The study projected that in 2019, family premiums could be $4,000...”


“Reform” Means You Pay More for Health Care [Here are the numbers]
A major new report confirms the worst fears of many: Health care reform will raise the
costs for most Americans—by about 18% on average. That is on top of existing inflation
of health coverage.

Once the plan is fully phased-in (by 2019), a typical family of four would pay an extra $4,000 each year.

When combined with existing inflation, costs would rise from today’s $12,300 annual
average to $25,900. Of that 111% increase, $9,600 is due to existing factors uncorrected
by the legislation, and $4,000 due to additional costs created by the legislation.

For single persons, the differential is projected at $1,500 a year. Premiums would rise
from today’s $4,600 a year to $9,600 overall.
Prepared by Price Waterhouse Coopers (PWC), the new analysis was requested by
AHIP—America’s Health Insurance Plans. It focuses on the leading plan pending in
Congress, sponsored by Sen. Max Baucus (D, MT), which is scheduled for a Senate
Finance Committee vote on Tuesday. .”


“You can’t reap these savings without limiting patients’ choices in some way," said Paul Levy, CEO of Beth Israel Deaconess.

The state’s ambitious plan to shake up how providers are paid could have a hidden price
for patients: Controlling Massachusetts’ soaring medical costs, many health care leaders
believe, may require residents to give up their nearly unlimited freedom to go to any
hospital and specialist they want.

Efforts to keep patients in a defined provider network, or direct them to lower-cost
hospitals could be unpopular, especially in a state where more than 40 percent of hospital
care is provided in expensive academic medical centers and where many insurance
policies allow patients access to large numbers of providers. .”


“State plan may place limits on patients’ hospital options( Mass. RomneyCare )”


"Romney Visits Nebraska, Talks Health Care [where he defends Romneycare]
A familiar face came to Nebraska on Friday, hoping to raise a lot of money for the state Republican party and perhaps raise his profile for the 2012 presidential race.
Former candidate Mitt Romney was the keynote speaker for the Nebraska Republican Party's Founder's Day dinner.
The appearance, one of several planned in the past few weeks, may have helped boost his party's hopes in Nebraska's second Congressional district.
He said he's also hoping to bring attention to the debate over health care reform.”


“The WSJ Guide to ObamaCare. A comprehensive collection of our editorials.
50 or more live linked articles, editorials on big government, big business
RINO/Socialism/Romney/Hilary/Obama central health planning from the people
that
gave you public housing slums, lousy expensive highways, lousy expensive
public schools.... "


"Paying the Health Tax in Massachusetts [Romneycare]
My husband retired from IBM about a decade ago, and as we aren't old enough for
Medicare we still buy our health insurance through the company. But IBM, with its
typical courtesy, informed us recently that we will be fined by the state.
Why? Because Massachusetts requires every resident to have health insurance, and this
year, without informing us directly, the state had changed the rules in a way that made
our bare-bones policy no longer acceptable. Unless we ponied up for a pricier policy we
neither need nor want—or enrolled in a government-sponsored insurance plan—we
would have to pay $1,000 each year to the state.
My husband's response was muted; I was shaking mad. We hadn't imposed our health-
care costs on anyone else, yet we were being fined ("taxed" was the word the letter used).

We've spent much of our lives putting away what money we could for retirement. We
always intended to be self-sufficient. We've paid off the mortgage on our home, don't
carry credit-card debt, and have savings in case of an emergency. We also have a regular
monthly income of about $3,000, which includes an IBM pension. My husband, 61, earns
a little money on the side, sometimes working as an electronics consultant on renewable
energy projects. I'm 58 and make some money writing science books. We are not
wealthy, but we aren't a risk of becoming a burden on society either. How did we become outlaws? "

20 posted on 03/05/2010 1:13:24 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Peter Horry

Carpetbagger Romney imposing RomneyCARE:
"My Death Panel is now the first.
We Democrats sure love each other”


Health care in Massachusetts: a warning for America [Romney brings Mass. to its knees]
The Bay State's mandatory insurance law is raising costs, limiting access, and lowering care.

Sedalia, Colo. - In his recent speech to Congress, President Obama could have promoted
healthcare reforms that tapped the power of a truly free market to lower costs and
improve access. Instead, he chose to offer a national version of the failing
"Massachusetts plan" based on mandatory health insurance. This is a recipe for disaster.

Three years ago, Massachusetts adopted a plan requiring all residents to purchase health
insurance, with state subsidies for lower-income residents. But rather than creating a
utopia of high-quality affordable healthcare, the result has been the exact opposite –
skyrocketing costs, worsened access, and lower quality care.

Under any system of mandatory insurance, the government must necessarily define what
constitutes acceptable insurance. In Massachusetts, this has created a giant magnet for
special interest groups seeking to have their own pet benefits included in the required
package. Massachusetts residents are thus forced to purchase benefits they may neither
need nor want, such as in vitro fertilization, chiropractor services, and autism treatment –
raising insurance costs for everyone to reward a few with sufficient political "pull."

Although similar problems exist in other states, Massachusetts' system of mandatory
insurance delivers the entire state population to the special interests. ."

21 posted on 03/05/2010 1:13:56 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GOP_Lady

Piss on Romney and his enablers


22 posted on 03/05/2010 1:14:52 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: lewislynn

Shame on RomneyCARE. How “Edwards” is that?


23 posted on 03/05/2010 1:15:05 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GOP_Lady

You are welcome.

We the People http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc_-L4fyLUo


24 posted on 03/05/2010 1:16:33 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: colorado tanker
Mitt can't get the nomination unless he finally admits he was wrong on Romneycare and won't duplicate it at the federal level.

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And how much would his word mean?

Nothing.

25 posted on 03/05/2010 1:18:18 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: GOP_Lady

Ann Romney gettin’ competitive and trying to put the slam on Palin, without quite saying so, by saying Romney should be judged by how his children and grandchildren have come out and are leading their lives.


26 posted on 03/05/2010 1:19:19 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
That is disappointing because it means that Ms.Romney
approves Team Romney's hit on Gov. Palin and her children.


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"


Poor sport spoiler Romney doing what he does best:

Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"

Said Novak: "The rumors were traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson
."

"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."

[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]

27 posted on 03/05/2010 1:22:57 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GailA
Equally bad idea.

Of course it's creators are not thinking about running for the POTUS and trying to pass themselves off as Conservatives...

28 posted on 03/05/2010 1:24:50 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Diogenesis; Jim Robinson

My goodness, what was posted on this thread to drive you to trash it with your spam. Your immaturity grows with time.

You’re probably going to call me a RomneyBot, say Romney is my master and call me a coward next.

Are you the president of the committed that bring us the creative keywords on the Romney threads and some that aren’t Romney threads.

Just so you don’t confused again, this is also addressed to Mr. Robinson only for his information.


29 posted on 03/05/2010 1:32:56 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: Peter Horry; Diogenesis; Jim Robinson

He is not posting “spam”. He’s posting information that will hopefully educate those who are unaware of Romney’s deplorable record.

I would hardly call that “trash”.


30 posted on 03/05/2010 1:37:51 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Diogenesis

She said it repeatedly and as a non sequitor response to a question, so you know she was primed and prepped to get it out there.


31 posted on 03/05/2010 1:39:47 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Good catch.


32 posted on 03/05/2010 1:42:35 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Peter Horry

About as long as the usual Mittbot suspects. Welcome to the thread!


33 posted on 03/05/2010 1:44:33 PM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: trisham
Well it is to Romneybots...

Always consider the source...

34 posted on 03/05/2010 1:46:59 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Palin bashers on freerepublic, like a fart in Church...)
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To: Peter Horry
You clearly have no clue, do you. Let me give you one:

Jim Rob (Jim Thompson to you) has stated over and over again this site will never endorse Rommey. Period. The site owner *can not stand* Romney, and never will.

You crybaby Mittbots are here at his amusement. Don't like it? Bye.

And before you spout the usual 'first amendment' cry, I suggest you actually read the first amendment first.

This is a private site, and the owner can do what he wants.

35 posted on 03/05/2010 1:48:30 PM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: trisham; Diogenesis; Jim Robinson

My trash, your treasure. It clutters the thread, and I don’t read that many links regardless of who posts them. I certainly wouldn’t from someone that displays the temperament and intolerance of this poster.

Thank you for your input, do you have a comment on health care (the subject of the post) or what I posted relating to it.

Still think it was done out of anger and frustration (that the group can’t banish Romney from public exposure), but each can judge for themselves. I certainly didn’t post anything to provoke the poster to direct it to me.


36 posted on 03/05/2010 1:56:06 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: Peter Horry

I think your “immaturity” comment nailed it pretty well. Just know there are other FReepers who can approach these discussions and disagreements like adults.

Just do as I have done, and ignore the others. Not worth the keystroke.


37 posted on 03/05/2010 1:58:05 PM PST by 1curiousmind
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To: Peter Horry

ROMNEY - Corrupt like the others

"Top 20 Recipients of AIG Contributions in 2008"


38 posted on 03/05/2010 2:01:15 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Peter Horry; Diogenesis; Jim Robinson

To be honest, I’d be happy if pro-Romney articles were banned. They seem to be all over this forum recently.

Your “someone that displays the temperament and intolerance of this poster” is my “patriot who posts the truth about a devious politician”.

Thank goodness there are members of this forum who are willing to do the research and work to expose candidates who should be unacceptable to conservatives.


39 posted on 03/05/2010 2:02:54 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Peter Horry; ConjunctionJunction; Al B.; SolidWood; Leisler; greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; ...
Tell us why you like Mitt RomneyCARE? Don't hold back.

"Romney in Seven Words"
"On Wednesday, after his loss in the New Hampshire primary, Gov. Mitt Romney returned to Boston
to lick his wounds and conduct a telephone fundraiser before heading off to his next must win state of Michigan.
ABC Radio microphones were there and they featured an audio quote from Romney in their top of the hour news broadcasts.
Romney was encouraging his phone bank volunteers with a little pep talk when he unintentionally summed up his entire campaign;
ironically hitting upon the reason why he has failed to gain any traction with conservatives despite spending the most money of any Republican.
ABC News Radio was contacted by telephone and confirmed the following quote from their report.
" Hit the phones today make all the promises you have to, and…
make sure that we get the funds that we need to keep on propelling this campaign forward with power and energy.
Make all the promises you have to.

That’s Romney in a nutshell.
Of all the Republicans running, he alone has sought to clarify, cover,
and indeed change past positions in an attempt to curry favor with conservatives.
In the process, Romney has developed a reputation not as a principled conservative,
but as a politician who will say almost anything and take almost any position to win votes. "

40 posted on 03/05/2010 2:03:03 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rintense

Peter Horry: “Leave our precious Mitt Romney alone.


41 posted on 03/05/2010 2:09:38 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rintense; Jim Robinson

This coming from someone that can’t distinguish a comment about health care from a Romney indorsement.

Jim Robinson has the prerogative to delete all Romney threads if he so chooses, he has not done so. So as long as I am a member and contributor I will continue to make posts that I consider to be within the guidelines of this forum and pertinent to the subject or in response to posters that attack me or others. He can also end my involvement in this forum.

One more thing, if you didn’t realize it. This forum is supported by contributions and its value is from the knowledge and experience of it’s many posters as well as the posts of Mr. Robinson. You should have enough respect for your fellow posters, as well as Mr. Robinson, to make this forum the best it can be and effective in promoting conservative principles and supporting candidates that share those values/principles.

From my view many posters have lost sight of that, try to drown out opposing opinions, and resort to a cyber version of verbal abuse and intimidation. I believe that, if this trend continues, this site will eventually fail. If this behavior is corrected the site can play a vital part in the present and future political challenges.

This can be my opus if Jim Robinson so desires, my future here and the future of this site is not in your hands. Be assured, I will not be your whipping boy, cyber or otherwise.


42 posted on 03/05/2010 2:25:35 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: Peter Horry
Really? You're a contributor? Didn't you admit yesterday you are here just to defend others from what you deem as unfair attacks?

You are clearly in the wrong place if you can't handle Dio's posts about Mitt Romney's real record. But look at you! The only place you seem to show up and cry like a b!tch is on Romney threads.

How predictable.

43 posted on 03/05/2010 2:31:01 PM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: Diogenesis

You can contribute to this thread and Jim Robinson’s site or you can throw feces like a monkey, looks like you have chosen option two.


44 posted on 03/05/2010 2:31:37 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: Diogenesis
STOP SPAMMING!!!!

That's code for 'stop posting the truth!!!!'

45 posted on 03/05/2010 2:31:59 PM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: Peter Horry

You poor baby. Why don’t you come out of your Mitt closet and end the suspense?


46 posted on 03/05/2010 2:32:51 PM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: ejonesie22

Seems the Mittbots and Palin haters have their panties in a twist today. Typical Friday on FR! Counting the seconds until the Paultards show up and join the show.


47 posted on 03/05/2010 2:34:42 PM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: Peter Horry
You can contribute to this thread and Jim Robinson’s site or you can throw feces like a monkey

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Posting the truth about Romney is not "throwing feces like a monkey". If someone disagrees with you, are they simply "throwing feces"?

Frankly, I think that characterization is pretty rude.

48 posted on 03/05/2010 2:36:27 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rintense

Ask Jim Robinson, he will tell you, if he thinks it’s any of your business.

“only place you seem to show up and cry like a b!tch is on Romney threads.”

Another one of the techniques used by the NoMore gang is to pull accusations from “out of your nether region” and then post them in an attempt to discredit poster.


49 posted on 03/05/2010 2:40:20 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: trisham

Lot of that going around, get used to it.


50 posted on 03/05/2010 2:41:30 PM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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