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Scranton Toyota dealer blames politics (contributions by Trial Lawyers, UAW)
The Times-Tribune (Scranton PA) ^ | 3/5/10 | DAVID FALCHEK

Posted on 03/05/2010 12:47:27 PM PST by Born Conservative

As the Toyota Scion of Scranton dealership continues to replace gas pedals on Toyotas recalled for unintended acceleration, managing partner Greg Gagorik depicted the automaker as a victim of a political hit.

At a media event on Thursday at the dealership's new Scranton showroom and service center, Mr. Gagorik handed out lists of contributions by trial lawyers and the United Auto Workers union to congressmen who grilled Toyota executives last month over acceleration problems blamed for dozens of deaths.

Mr. Gagorik attended those hearings, where the U.S. government's majority stake in General Motors hung heavy in the hall.

"One day, U.S. Toyota dealers woke up to find that their government owned their competitor," Mr. Gagorik said. "Now, our tax dollars are being used against us. Our government has a major conflict of interest."

As if to say Toyota is not alone, Mr. Gagorik handed out news reports of the 540,000-vehicle recall by Nissan for brake and fuel gauge repairs and a 1.3 million-vehicle GM recall for power steering from earlier in the week. The majority of Toyota recalls, he said, are because of customers putting non-Toyota-made, after-market floor mats in their vehicles.

"How much will Toyota be liable for non-Toyota products being used in their cars?" he asked. "That will be answered by the courts."

So far, the dealership has serviced half its customers' recalled vehicles last month, or 1,200 of 2,300. The job takes about an hour, but customers can expect the process to take two hours.

Until last week, Toyota Scion service bays were open until midnight, and they remain open on Saturday and Sunday to service vehicles under the recall. Each customer gets a free oil change, car wash and $250 off their next Toyota purchase.

The work hasn't affected the dealership's ability to serve its customers, said Chief of Operations Vito Sampogne. The service department's 70 employees have been able to handle the work.

The dealership had several happy customers on hand to talk to the media Thursday. Customer Tom Matkosky of Justus said the local Toyota sales and service team - not the corporate executives - are the face of the company.

Mr. Matkosky has owned 16 cars of different makes in the last 29 years. He is on his second Toyota Matrix. His own car's recall has not diminished his faith in the brand.

"I'm disappointed in the executives. The way you react to something is important," he said. "But the dealership network is another story - they are doing everything in their power to take care of customers and address what is happening."

Kimberly Konopka also says she remains a loyal Toyota customer. She traded in one Corolla to take advantage of 0 percent financing on another, her third. The owner of a Gouldsboro horse farm, she also frequently drives American-made trucks.

"One recall doesn't bother me," she said. "That's nothing compared to the number of recalls on the American trucks I've owned."

Mr. Gagorik hasn't noticed a sales drop in the last few weeks, this being the slowest time of the year. But he said Toyota has put together the most generous package of incentives in its history to lure buyers to the showrooms.

"For 25 years, Toyota has had the best record of safety and reliability in the industry," he said. "That is not going to change."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: automakers; donors; greggagorik; scion; toyota; triallawyers

1 posted on 03/05/2010 12:47:28 PM PST by Born Conservative
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To: Born Conservative

He’s right. And this is going to blow up in the commie ‘RATS’ face.


2 posted on 03/05/2010 12:48:56 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you liked 2009, you're going to LOVE 2010!!!!!)
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To: Tribune7

Ping


3 posted on 03/05/2010 12:50:04 PM PST by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Born Conservative

I’ve never bought a Toyota, I’ve only been to New Jersey once, but I’d consider going there just to buy a Toyota from this guy. I might even pay sticker and not dicker. Kudos for having the guts to to publicly call this charade for what it is.


4 posted on 03/05/2010 12:50:15 PM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: Born Conservative
At a media event on Thursday at the dealership's new Scranton showroom and service center, Mr. Gagorik handed out lists of contributions by trial lawyers and the United Auto Workers union to congressmen who grilled Toyota executives last month over acceleration problems blamed for dozens of deaths.

I say BRAVO, Mr. Gagorik! Way to stand up against the Democrat bullies and their coat holders, the corrupt MSM.

5 posted on 03/05/2010 12:50:32 PM PST by Obadiah (Democrats and their life partners, the MSM)
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To: henkster

You were only one state off. This is in Northeast Pennsylvania, not Joisey.


6 posted on 03/05/2010 12:51:35 PM PST by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Born Conservative

Sorry. I know the difference; don’t know where that came from. I’ve been to PA many times.

Still, I really commend this guy for sticking his neck out and telling the truth. Especially in PA.


7 posted on 03/05/2010 12:54:49 PM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: Born Conservative

Yes, it’s a political hit.

Unfortunately, it’s just them taking advantage of a situation that Toyota themselves created. GM has problems that are just as grave, but I don’t think you’ll be seeing congressional hearings about those any time soon.

And yes, the SUA problem is *real*.


8 posted on 03/05/2010 12:57:45 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Born Conservative

I would think the synthesis of the tort industry with unions is domestic terrorism....


9 posted on 03/05/2010 12:58:34 PM PST by mo
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To: Born Conservative

There is a lot to blame this liberal government for but the failures of this riceburner manufacturer is not one of them.
Blame government for people having vehicles failing after they have been “repaired”?
Blame government for Americans who have died in those riceburners?
Blame government for a foreign invader manufacturer that has kept this quiet for years?
Blame government for fooling Americans that this junk is high quality?
Blame government for deficiencies that include multiple systems over multiple makes?

Toyota fans are acting like global warming religion worshippers.


10 posted on 03/05/2010 12:59:42 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Born Conservative

Scranton Toyota dealer blames politics (contributions by Trial Lawyers, UAW)

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Gagorik is right. And add in the 24/7 coverage by the MSM and you can easily see why the deck is/was stacked against Toyota.


11 posted on 03/05/2010 1:01:08 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Born Conservative

Contrary to popular belief and talk of conservative talk show hosts, all being fair and balanced, you could leave all those foreign cars at the port for the next ten years with heavy tariffs until we have a Detroit back on its feet.

We probably wouldn’t be in debt to China and Asia as a whole if we had a Congress that stopped the export of our jobs, factories and products.

We wouldn’t have our standard of living if it were not for the Unions. Without them, it would just be the rich and the peasants.

So, now we are paying for outsourcing with unemployment. We are paying for those who don’t want to earn it. We now have jeopardized our health industry with overhaul mentality than repairs and modification. The worst part is the congressional and senatorial buy-outs. What ever we would have saved was lost to Senator vote buying.

We will pay until it is broke.

Broke is when...I think we are already.

Most Sincerely,

Paul Pierett


12 posted on 03/05/2010 1:03:17 PM PST by Paul Pierett (Paul Pierett)
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To: Born Conservative

Contrary to popular belief and talk of conservative talk-show hosts, all being fair and balanced, you could leave all those foreign cars at the port for the next ten years with heavy tariffs until we have a Detroit back on its feet.

We probably wouldn’t be in debt to China and Asia as a whole if we had a Congress that stopped the export of our jobs, factories and products production.

We wouldn’t have our standard of living if it were not for the Unions. Without them, it would just be the rich and the peasants.

So, now we are paying for outsourcing with unemployment. We are paying for those who don’t want to earn it. We now have jeopardized our health industry with overhaul mentality than repairs and modification. The worst part is the congressional and senatorial buy-outs. What ever we would have saved was lost to Senator vote buying.

We will pay until it is broke.

Broke is when...I think we are already.

Most Sincerely,

Paul Pierett


13 posted on 03/05/2010 1:04:05 PM PST by Paul Pierett (Paul Pierett)
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To: Born Conservative

Everything the media says and everything the government does is now suspect.


14 posted on 03/05/2010 1:05:51 PM PST by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Proud2BeRight
Toyota fans are acting like global warming religion worshippers.

Yeah right.

And you just keep on buying your Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Saturn... GM car like a good comrade.

Gotta keep those unionists happy.

15 posted on 03/05/2010 1:06:12 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Paul Pierett

Your idea has been tried before. See: British Leyland.

It didn’t end well.


16 posted on 03/05/2010 1:08:13 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Born Conservative

Toyota fanboys are almost as bad as Glock fanboys. It is all a political hit... riiigghttttt

Nevermind the deaths... nevermind the memos... nevermind the fix that isn’t fixing

All GM’s fault.

ROTFLMMFAO!


17 posted on 03/05/2010 1:08:15 PM PST by Double Tap
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To: Paul Pierett

Also, Harley got a protective tariff in the 80s, and look where they are now - hurting, with uncompetitive product that they can’t sell in the US due to the economy and can’t sell elsewhere because nobody wants it.


18 posted on 03/05/2010 1:09:26 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Paul Pierett

Are you talking about Toyota cars? They are made in the US and hire American workers to build their cars. BTW they are a great employer. My husband has worked for them twice.


19 posted on 03/05/2010 1:11:37 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: Paul Pierett

Toyota is not union and they are some of the highest paid with the best benefits. That is why the other car manufacturers hate them.


20 posted on 03/05/2010 1:12:26 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
this is going to blow up in the commie ‘RATS’ face.

I wish I were so sure. I'm a Toyota owner (who BTW would know to turn off the ignition if my car were ever accelerating when I didn't want it to). I'm on my third one now dating back to 1988. I had an electrical problem once. I wouldn't be surprised if 250 owners had the same problem that year. These are cars. Some number of them are going to need repair. But my guess is that the number of repairs per mile that Toyotas have required is shall we say less than the same number for Government Motors cars.

But yesterday I was speaking with a very conservative neighbor, and she was very concerned that I was driving a Toyota. The daily news alarms about Toyota are having a devastating effect.

ML/NJ

21 posted on 03/05/2010 1:14:22 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Born Conservative

I’d be interested in that list.


22 posted on 03/05/2010 1:18:58 PM PST by naturalized
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

where do you think the majority of profits for the rice burners go ???


23 posted on 03/05/2010 1:23:51 PM PST by rosco coltrain
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


24 posted on 03/05/2010 1:24:20 PM PST by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Yeah them Jap cars are about as American as apple pie aren’t they!


25 posted on 03/05/2010 1:29:28 PM PST by rosco coltrain
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To: rosco coltrain

The wage goes to the American worker. What a company does with it’s profit is not my business. I guess you like GM better. You like a business that the American worker has to support?


26 posted on 03/05/2010 1:31:10 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: rosco coltrain

I guess I shouldn’t eat at the local Chinese restaurant. They aren’t very apple pieish.


27 posted on 03/05/2010 1:32:27 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: rosco coltrain
where do you think the majority of profits for the rice burners go ???

To the shareholders.

28 posted on 03/05/2010 1:33:59 PM PST by jimmyray
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

actually I work for and drive a Ford,,, thats a company based in Dearborn Michigan that makes AMERICAN cars... and is not sold out to the Government.. the same company that supported the US thru out World War II building vehicle and tanks for the troops to fight the Japs and one that donates MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars to charity!


29 posted on 03/05/2010 1:34:39 PM PST by rosco coltrain
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To: rosco coltrain

Good for you.


30 posted on 03/05/2010 1:38:22 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: rosco coltrain

In case you haven’t noticed, we are no longer at war with Japan. Toyota donates millions to charity as well and they aren’t union. What is your point?


31 posted on 03/05/2010 1:40:59 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: jimmyray

Lol! Good point.


32 posted on 03/05/2010 1:41:59 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: rosco coltrain

Why are you sending me private messages?


33 posted on 03/05/2010 1:43:49 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: rosco coltrain

where do you think the majority of profits for the rice burners go ???

Where do you think the union-run GM’s profit go ?

Oh, never mind.


34 posted on 03/05/2010 1:48:40 PM PST by maine yankee
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To: maine yankee
Where do you think the union-run GM’s profit go ?

DNC re-election campaigns.

35 posted on 03/05/2010 1:50:47 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: rosco coltrain

“Yeah them Jap cars are about as American as apple pie aren’t they!”

As a matter of FACT they have a bunch of American content.

Toyota has had a design center in the US since the 1970s. Several of their popular models have been designed almost entirely in the US.

Then you know about all the plants in the US?

The vehicle industry is international. All of the major companies make vehicles in several locations.

None of the countries could grow to any size, only building and selling in one country.

And right now the majors are looking towards China and India, as their largest growth markets.


36 posted on 03/05/2010 1:51:08 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Responsibility2nd

The anti-Toyota meme has legs because the Toyota dealers (at least in the Chicagoland area) are major a$$holes. I switched this year after 21 straight years with Toyota because I was sick of their games and high prices in the face of declining demand.

Good cars though.


37 posted on 03/05/2010 1:52:27 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: neocon1984

Aren’t the dealers locally owned?


38 posted on 03/05/2010 2:08:33 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: Paul Pierett
Contrary to popular belief and talk of conservative talk show hosts, all being fair and balanced, you could leave all those foreign cars at the port for the next ten years with heavy tariffs until we have a Detroit back on its feet.

So you think that the auto industry ought to consist of three American manufacturers? Dude, the American automobile industry wasn't killed by imports, it was killed by socialists from the 1930 to the 1970s.

During the 1920s competition and economies of scale rewarded successful competitors, especially GM, whose sales formula brought down the Model T in 1926. Many, many other companies went out of business during this time as unable to keep up with the rest. Others honed their business models and rose over the rest, such as Chrysler.

It was during the 1930s, however, that the government killed off competition. By mandating material and labor costs and conditions, FDR's New Deal (NRA) reduced all competitive advantages to a simple matter of scale. Since materials and labor cost all factories the same, the only factories that could survive were those of enormous scale: during this time the "Big Three" were created, GM, Ford, and Chrysler. WWII saved the smaller competitors since they moved to war materials, but coming out of the War, the government continued wage and materials controls, which, again, favored the Big Three over their few remaining competitors.

Through the 1950s and 1960s all the Big Three competitors died off, except American Motors, an amalgamation of other, failing companies, and which finally died in the 1980s.(Btw, a 60 Minutes report that exaggerated claims of rollovers of Jeeps was the coup de grace of AMC.)

By the 1970s, the government had stifled and killed off all viable domestic competition to the Big Three, which then dominated the marketplace. However, import competition, in large part driven by the surving dealer network of the old independent manufacturers, filled in the crucial needs of alternatives for the consumer.

Your beloved domestic automobile industry is a government created failure.

39 posted on 03/05/2010 6:14:13 PM PST by nicollo (you're freakin' out!)
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To: Tribune7
I own a 2007 Toyota Corolla and have always experienced very good service by their service department. My relatives all have Toyotas and they encouraged me to buy one, and so far I am satisfied. I've had three other American-made cars in the past and spent an inordinate amount of time in waiting rooms getting them fixed for many different problems incl. recalls. My relatives assured me this would change if I got a Toyota.

Bottom line: I don't know how all this would play out, but it seems to me that the media and government are coming down on Toyota with major shit. I never saw this kind of brouhaha in the news over probs with other auto companies. My Dad had a Ford that stopped dead on the freeway once. Bottom line: I'll find

40 posted on 03/05/2010 8:44:40 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Ciexyz
Hope my above post wasn't too rambling. I was trying to say, all cars have mechanical problems after awhile, and I'll find out in several years if my Toyota has a better track record than the three American-made cars I owned in the past.
41 posted on 03/05/2010 8:46:47 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Paul Pierett

Not responding to competition is what killed Detroit. Not being able to become competitive now using union labor is what keeps Detroit dead.

Protectionism solves nothing.


42 posted on 03/05/2010 8:50:52 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Ciexyz
You kind of wonder if this stuff isn't being pushed to help Government Motors.

You might have to go back to the Corvair to find such a fuss being made.

43 posted on 03/06/2010 5:45:46 AM PST by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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