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Losing In Fall OK With Democrats If It Means They Win Health Care
Investors.com ^ | March 5, 2010 | MARK STEYN

Posted on 03/05/2010 5:14:05 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
Losing in fall OK with Dims

By unanimous consent?

21 posted on 03/05/2010 5:38:06 PM PST by windsorknot (o o)
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To: Kaslin

So the Dims are going support this abomination DESPITE a virtually assured defeat in November?

And they want health care to pass so that government will have a permanent and unbreakable hold over our lives?

This is not going to end well.


22 posted on 03/05/2010 5:38:11 PM PST by DNME (HEY CHINA, HOW MUCH FOR HAWAII?)
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To: Kaslin

The health care plan currently proposed will literally bankrupt the American people. It is as simple as that.

The Democrat politicians are like suicide bombers. They are willing to destroy their careers even their lives as long as they can hurt Americans and weaken America.


23 posted on 03/05/2010 5:39:13 PM PST by detective
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To: dalereed; A_Former_Democrat
If you think that 2/3 majority in both the House and Senate in November, you’re nuts!

Without 2/3 majority obama will just veto it!

Once it’s put into effect it will be there forever, just like Medicare, Social Security, Welfare, amd health care for the poor!

If we don't have a veto proof majority -- and we won't -- control of one house of Congress would be temporarily sufficient.

After all, if no funds are appropriated for any activities associated with Obamacare, how are they going to set up the framework?

24 posted on 03/05/2010 5:43:36 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
However a Pub congress could refuse to keep funding it.

A conservative congress could, however we've never had one. No government "gimme" program gets repealed, they just grow and grow and grow.

25 posted on 03/05/2010 5:44:24 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
However a Pub congress could refuse to keep funding it.

A conservative congress could, however we've never had one. No government "gimme" program gets repealed, they just grow and grow and grow.

26 posted on 03/05/2010 5:45:08 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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To: Kaslin

What happens to the issue if and when it fails to pass the house?


27 posted on 03/05/2010 5:47:24 PM PST by agooga (Struggling every day to be worthy of their sacrifice.)
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To: okie01

Just the stripping 500 billion from medicare will make health unafordable for me and accomplish obamas goal of eliminating me as a useless eater!


28 posted on 03/05/2010 5:47:35 PM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed

Thanks for the compliment


29 posted on 03/05/2010 5:47:57 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Let them vote it in, go down in November.

Then repeal it. In full.

Although I have the same sentiments, the reality is that (and I'm sure the Demoncrats know) if the Demoncrats get obamacare passed the Republicans will never get a veto over riding majority to repeal it. See, if the Republicans pass a bill to repeal it, obama will veto it (it's an ego thing to him) and the Republicans will not have enough votes to over ride the veto. So the key thing is to make sure obamacare never gets passed in the first place.

- Traveler

30 posted on 03/05/2010 5:48:06 PM PST by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: okie01
After all, if no funds are appropriated for any activities associated with Obamacare, how are they going to set up the framework?

The same GOP of which you speak caved when just one senator went and acted fiscally conservative. What makes you think the same GOP will cut off funding for 0bamacare with the left blasting ads on every TV station saying "THE EVIL GOP WILL CUT YOUR HEALTH CARE."

31 posted on 03/05/2010 5:49:31 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Kaslin

I move that we support their losses both places. All in favor?


32 posted on 03/05/2010 5:49:53 PM PST by madison10
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To: Kaslin

This human has a very confused and unfocused mind. One of the most overrated conservative voices.


33 posted on 03/05/2010 5:51:34 PM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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34 posted on 03/05/2010 5:53:17 PM PST by GloriaJane (Pro-Choice = Pro-Death........ Pro-Life = Pro-LIFE!)
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To: Traveler59

Right. As several have pointed out it would take 2/3 each chamber and I had forgotten my Con Law there for a moment.


35 posted on 03/05/2010 5:54:15 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Califelephant
"Because government health care is not about health care, it's about government."

Just like "gun control" ... it's not about "guns", it's about "control".

36 posted on 03/05/2010 5:54:55 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: pnh102
The same GOP of which you speak caved when just one senator went and acted fiscally conservative. What makes you think the same GOP will cut off funding for 0bamacare...

I don't know about you, but they don't sound like the same old GOP to me. Mitch McConnell's promise that a GOP majority would repeal Obamacare if it passed into law sounded pretty straightforward to me.

They've held strong so far. And that bodes well for the future.

Maybe, just maybe, they've learned their lesson...

37 posted on 03/05/2010 5:56:24 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Kaslin

This is total nonsense, for public consumption. Democrats live to slurp at the public trough and pick taxpayers’ wallets.


38 posted on 03/05/2010 5:56:30 PM PST by Tax Government (Conservatives are blue, Democrats are red. Take back our color.)
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To: Kaslin

Here’s my plan:

Dems lose on Deathcare

+ Dems lose in Fall

... works for me.


39 posted on 03/05/2010 5:57:55 PM PST by webschooner (Lincoln Freed the Slaves ... Obama Enslaves the Free)
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To: dalereed
Once it’s put into effect it will be there forever...

Quite true.

But in reality, "forever" is only that very short time until our country is completely bankrupted and ruined with nothing left but a putrid carcass for the rest of the world to pick over.

That's when they finally get to steal all the rich natural bounty we have protected with such blood and effort only to then "permanently" lock it up so as not to enhance "global warming"!

40 posted on 03/05/2010 5:58:19 PM PST by Gritty (Governmentalization of health care cements in a permanent left-of-center political culture -Mk Steyn)
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