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FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate
UCLA Study ^ | 8/10/04 | By Meg Sullivan

Posted on 03/06/2010 6:02:55 AM PST by paltz

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1 posted on 03/06/2010 6:02:55 AM PST by paltz
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Surely, this is satire. The idea that a state run University would publish is beyond comprehension.


2 posted on 03/06/2010 6:05:39 AM PST by raybbr
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To: paltz

Old study but good to have around these days.


3 posted on 03/06/2010 6:06:07 AM PST by paltz
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I have read, in the past, that govt policy turned a recession into the depression and made it last much longer than it would have if left alone.
However, it did give the federal govt the opportunity to increase their power over our lives and they seized that power with a vengeance.


4 posted on 03/06/2010 6:06:23 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: paltz; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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5 posted on 03/06/2010 6:07:10 AM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: paltz
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

Just imagine the state of our sovereignty for decades after if he hadn't saved us from total collapse! /MS

That would be the response of a Fascist.

6 posted on 03/06/2010 6:09:18 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: paltz

for later


7 posted on 03/06/2010 6:13:46 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Scotsman will be Free
I have read, in the past, that govt policy turned a recession into the depression and made it last much longer than it would have if left alone. However, it did give the federal govt the opportunity to increase their power over our lives and they seized that power with a vengeance.

That's it in a nutshell!

Excellent post SWBE!

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8 posted on 03/06/2010 6:14:05 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: paltz

Zero is trying to do in one year what took Roosevelt 6 years. Seeing Zero push ObamaCare, Crap and Tax, card check etc is an exact replay of what FDR did before 1939, Social Security, NRA, Wagner, etc. and of course the economy is suffering.


9 posted on 03/06/2010 6:15:36 AM PST by C19fan
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To: paltz

I remember reading a study that if they had allowed natural market forces to intervene, the US economy would probably have been on a steady recovery by 1936-1937 anyway.


10 posted on 03/06/2010 6:16:57 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: paltz
For a great treatise of the Great Depression read The Forgotten Man by Amity Shlaes.
11 posted on 03/06/2010 6:22:43 AM PST by windsorknot (o o)
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To: paltz

Bump


12 posted on 03/06/2010 6:23:03 AM PST by Ditto (Directions for Clean Government: If they are in, vote them out. Rinse and repeat.)
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To: paltz

And obambi’s will DESTROY IT in 4.

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html

Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors

Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464538/posts

MILITARY & Retired MILITARY
Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464680/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.
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Health Reform 3.0 - Lipstick On A Pig
Friday, March 05, 2010 3:05:55 PM · 5 of 5
GailA to raptor22

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html

Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors

Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464538/posts

MILITARY & Retired MILITARY
Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464680/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


13 posted on 03/06/2010 6:23:23 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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"We found that a relapse isn't likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with ill-conceived stimulus policies."

Hmmmm... How would this be relevant to our situation today?

14 posted on 03/06/2010 6:25:04 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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It’s truly amazing that, 60 years later, the myth of FDR as having saved the country from the Depression still lingers on. Many economists at the time warned that his policies were prolonging it, but America had become so enamored of communism, fascism and “scientific” planning that they were ignored as obsolete cranks.

If you’re at all interested in the topic, then, by all means, read “The Forgotten Man” by Amity Shlaes. It’s a fascinating read about that era and you don’t need to be an economist to understand it. It will also become stunningly obvious to you how the Obama administration consciously set about to imitate FDR’s every move.


15 posted on 03/06/2010 6:26:12 AM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: paltz

So, Glenn Beck was right???


16 posted on 03/06/2010 6:27:11 AM PST by Edward Watson
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Just read “The Forgotten Man” by Amity Schlaes! The book is amazing and a lot of scary similarities to Obama and his team.


17 posted on 03/06/2010 6:29:16 AM PST by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: paltz

http://www.rooseveltmyth.com


18 posted on 03/06/2010 6:34:45 AM PST by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS AND TRAITORS!!!)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
However, it did give the federal govt the opportunity to increase their power over our lives and they seized that power with a vengeance.

Never let a crisis go to waste? Sounds mighty familiar......

19 posted on 03/06/2010 6:35:12 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: paltz

http://www.rooseveltmyth.com/book/hbzfrm.htm


20 posted on 03/06/2010 6:35:45 AM PST by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS AND TRAITORS!!!)
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