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Is Capitalism Evil?
American Thinker via CDS ^ | 3/3/2010 | Jim Gammon

Posted on 03/07/2010 11:35:10 AM PST by ezfindit

We hear people speak of “business” and “capitalism” as being somehow evil, including comments about capitalists victimizing employees and customers in pursuit of the goal of “maximizing profits”.

In conversations with supposedly educated people who lean to the left, the concept is an accepted axiom, that maximizing profits – at the expense of everything good in the world – is the one and only purpose of business. It is the socialist rallying cry these days.

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KEYWORDS: capitalism; competition; economics; freemarket
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This really frosts me. I have been in business for 35 years, and there are many shades of business management styles, and only one puts “maximizing profits” first. In my opinion, “maximizing profits” as a management goal is the most ill-conceived and destructive business management style. It causes loss, not gain.
1 posted on 03/07/2010 11:35:10 AM PST by ezfindit
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To: ezfindit

No. Next question...


2 posted on 03/07/2010 11:36:30 AM PST by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: ezfindit
Is capitalism evil?

No, our system that allows campaign contributions to corrupt capitalism is evil. Fix that and captialism works well.

3 posted on 03/07/2010 11:37:11 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom
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To: ezfindit
"Is Capitalism Evil?

No. Some people misuse everything they touch, including economic systems. Governments are made up of people; most notably ungoverned.

4 posted on 03/07/2010 11:37:59 AM PST by ronnyquest (That's what governments are for: to get in a man's way.)
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To: ezfindit

The Michael Moores of the world think capitalism is evil. He is a poster child for absurd hypocrisy. He makes idiotic movies designed to push an agenda. He became wealthy because of those movies. Enough people buy his books and movies to make him wealthy. Though his viewpoints are moronic, in my opinion, he was able to sell his product through capitalism and make his profits.


5 posted on 03/07/2010 11:38:00 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: ezfindit
It shouldn't even be addressed as a question to ponder.

It just lends credence to the socialist cry that it is.

6 posted on 03/07/2010 11:38:37 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

You’re right, but it helps conservatives take over their language and get search engine placement ahead of the Marxists and socialists when they type in “Capitalism is evil.” :) It’s the new media war and we’re winning!


7 posted on 03/07/2010 11:40:31 AM PST by ezfindit (ConservativeDatingSite.com - The Right Place for Conservative Singles)
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To: ezfindit

It is only evil when the heads of business loose their morals.


8 posted on 03/07/2010 11:43:03 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
If people like him and other Hollywood hypocrites want to keep making money about Capitalist greed, then I say it's ok to distribute pirated copies of their films. Why should they make a buck?
9 posted on 03/07/2010 11:46:13 AM PST by DHSMostWanted (ByeBye Benedict Nelson in 2012.)
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To: ezfindit

Anyone who believes that capitalism is “evil”, must believe that communism is good.


10 posted on 03/07/2010 11:46:31 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (A proud American-American since 1949.)
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To: ezfindit
If you think capitalism is at fault for bad management, you know nothing of human nature.

Yes, but the leftists think if we do away with the Constitution, and convert to a socialist or communist system, then kind, selfless and benevolent people will be magically attracted to the seats of power. They won't be corrupt, evil and stupid like the capitalists, even though they will have far more of other peoples' money to play with.

11 posted on 03/07/2010 11:47:27 AM PST by FlyVet
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To: ezfindit

answer to leftists:
Michael Novak- Spirit of Democratic Capitalism

http://www.amazon.com/Spirit-Democratic-Capitalism-Michael-Novak/dp/0819178233

Capitalism is, at essence, individualism. Is individualism “evil?”


12 posted on 03/07/2010 11:48:07 AM PST by silverleaf ("Congress is America's only native criminal class."- Mark Twain)
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To: ezfindit
The problem as I see it is a very poor economics education program. I'll admit that for a while I had some negative thoughts about big business and capitalism. But this was when I was in my teens and not part of the labor force. The teachers I had in high school had almost suceeded in indoctrinating me. Fortunately I got some good free market economics professors in college and I started working and paying taxes.

Also at this time I began to read National Review and Milton Friedman. It was like a light coming on. I've never been dumber than I was in my mid-teens. I'm also still mad as hell at those high school teachers who tried to indoctrinate me. They didn't suceed with me but they did with many others. This is the problem.
13 posted on 03/07/2010 11:48:53 AM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: ezfindit

All alternatives to capitalism are maliciously evil.


14 posted on 03/07/2010 11:51:06 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Anyone who believes that capitalism is “evil”, must believe that communism is good.

Unequivocally so!

15 posted on 03/07/2010 11:51:29 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: ezfindit
Caiptalism is ONLY freedom.

To remove from life the opportunity to sin is to remove the opportunity to think!

Is that what socialists want...robots?

16 posted on 03/07/2010 11:51:57 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: ezfindit
Competition has a way of getting rid of business that are not ethical. If a business does not offer a product or service that offers a fair value to consumers it will not be successful.

Wish our government had such a built in cure for it's unproductive, wasteful, outdated, unnecessary, corrupt, programs and elected officials.

17 posted on 03/07/2010 11:55:14 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: ezfindit

Uh, we haven’t had actual capitalism in America for decades. We have corporate statism:

http://joytiz.com/2009/capitalism-didn%e2%80%99t-fail-we-ought-to-try-it-sometime/


18 posted on 03/07/2010 11:56:00 AM PST by jazminerose
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To: ezfindit
I will answer this question with a few of my own:

1) Which economic model has killed 100's of millions?

  1. Capitalism
  2. Communism
2) Which economic model routinely and harshly punishes internal critics and dissenters?
  1. Capitalism
  2. Communism
3) Which economic model causes massive environmental degradation?
  1. Capitalism
  2. Communism
4) Which economic model causes massive material shortages, sometimes famine, but always poverty?
  1. Capitalism
  2. Communism

19 posted on 03/07/2010 11:56:24 AM PST by Lazamataz (Seriously. The only way Obama can possibly pull this out is to declare Martial Law before November.)
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To: ezfindit

Capitalism is the way people naturally exchange goods and services. They only opt for alternatives when forced to do so or when the guns are pointed at someone else, allowing them to profit where they otherwise couldn’t.


20 posted on 03/07/2010 11:59:50 AM PST by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: jazminerose

Great article...we’ve allowed corporate pimps and their political whores to corrupt capitalism which is really moral invidualism free from state/corporate controls.


21 posted on 03/07/2010 12:02:33 PM PST by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: Lazamataz

Great questions!


22 posted on 03/07/2010 12:03:35 PM PST by ezfindit (ConservativeDatingSite.com - The Right Place for Conservative Singles)
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To: ezfindit

Well of COURSE Capitalism is evil. It created wealth and a far above average lifestyle for millions of “little people” when everybody knows only the left-wing elitist class deserves the finer things of life!


23 posted on 03/07/2010 12:12:14 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: jazminerose

Thanks for the link. It nicely differentiates between capitalism and corporatism/statism/fascism.


24 posted on 03/07/2010 12:12:19 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: ezfindit

Capitalism does not work very well “bare.” It needs to be enlightened by a godly ethic in order to prosper through thick and thin.


25 posted on 03/07/2010 12:14:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: eleni121

People tend to forget the importance of morals.

As Bastiat noted in The Law: the ‘common tendency’ of ‘mankind’ ‘when they can’ is to ‘live and prosper at the expense of others’.

Our morals used to put the breaks on that tendency.


26 posted on 03/07/2010 12:17:04 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: ezfindit

Mostly good. It can be used for evil, e.g., slave trade. It works well with some moderation, though, such as by using it in the context of a culture that also emphasizes charity, respect for others and public service/civic responsibility. More importantly, sharing within the family unit can both moderate the selfishness that can be a part of capitalism, while at the same time providing the motivation to go out and create more wealth for the family unit.

I’d say capitalism goes hand in hand with strong families and strong civic virtues. If one or more of those are at risk, and they are, we need to shore them up again before life gets really unpleasant.


27 posted on 03/07/2010 12:33:05 PM PST by married21
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To: ezfindit; newgeezer

Capitalism isn’t evil, people are evil.


28 posted on 03/07/2010 12:36:26 PM PST by DungeonMaster (A Christian Democrat is better than a heathen Republican)
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To: ezfindit

Capitalism - Oingo Boingo

There’s nothing wrong with capitalism
There’s nothing wrong with free enterprise
Don’t try to make me feel guilty
I’m so tired of hearing you cry

There’s nothing wrong with making some profit
If you ask, I’ll say it’s just fine
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to live nice
So tired of hearing you whine

About the revolution, bringing down the rich
When was the last time you dug a ditch, baby

If it ain’t one thing, then it’s the other
Any cause that crosses your path
Your heart bleeds for anyone’s brother
I’ve got to tell you, you’re a pain in the ass

You criticize with plenty of vigor
You rationalize everything that you do
With catchy phrases and heavy quotations
And everybody is crazy but you

You’re just a middle class, socialist brat
From a suburban family and you never really had to work
And now you tell me that we’ve got to get back
To the struggling masses, whoever they are

You talk, talk, talk about suffering and pain
Your mouth is bigger than your entire brain
What the hell do you know about suffering and pain?

There’s nothing wrong with capitalism
There’s nothing wrong with free enterprise
Don’t try to make me feel guilty
I’m so tired of hearing you cry

There’s nothing wrong with making some profit
If you ask I’ll say it’s just fine
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to live nice
So tired of hearing you whine

You’re just a middle class, socialist brat
From a suburban family and you never really had to work
And now you tell me that we’ve got to get back
To the struggling masses, whoever they are

You talk, talk, talk about suffering and pain
Your mouth is bigger than your entire brain

There’s nothing wrong with capitalism
There’s nothing wrong with capitalism
There’s nothing wrong with capitalism
There’s nothing wrong with capitalism


29 posted on 03/07/2010 12:36:34 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: ezfindit
Unlike today's spoiled and privileged Far Left types, the millions of oppressed people who fled to America since 1787 saw opportunity under the Founders' system of liberty.

The following essay, is reprinted with permission from "Our Ageless Constitution." See

Freedom Of Individual Enterprise

The Economic Dimension Of Liberty Protected By The Constitution

"Agriculture, manufactures, commerce, and navigation, the four pillars of our prosperity, are the most thriving when left most free to individual enterprise." - Thomas Jefferson

"The enviable condition of the people of the United States is often too much ascribed to the physical advantages of their soil & climate .... But a just estimate of the happiness of our country will never overlook what belongs to the fertile activity of a free people and the benign influence of a responsible government." - James Madison

America's Constitution did not mention freedom of enterprise per se, but it did set up a system of laws to secure individual liberty and freedom of choice in keeping with Creator-endowed natural rights. Out of these, free enterprise flourished naturally. Even though the words "free enterprise' are not in the Constitution, the concept was uppermost in the minds of the Founders, typified by the remarks of Jefferson and Madison as quoted above. Already, in 1787, Americans were enjoying the rewards of individual enterprise and free markets. Their dedication was to securing that freedom for posterity.

The learned men drafting America's Constitution understood history - mankind's struggle against poverty and government oppression. And they had studied the ideas of the great thinkers and philosophers. They were familiar with the near starvation of the early Jamestown settlers under a communal production and distribution system and Governor Bradford's diary account of how all benefited after agreement that each family could do as it wished with the fruits of its own labors. Later, in 1776, Adam Smith's INQUIRY INTO THE NATURE AND CAUSES OF THE WEALTH OF NATIONS and Say's POLITICAL ECONOMY had come at just the right time and were perfectly compatible with the Founders' own passion for individual liberty. Jefferson said these were the best books to be had for forming governments based on principles of freedom. They saw a free market economy as the natural result of their ideal of liberty. They feared concentrations of power and the coercion that planners can use in planning other peoples lives; and they valued freedom of choice and acceptance of responsibility of the consequences of such choice as being the very essence of liberty. They envisioned a large and prosperous republic of free people, unhampered by government interference.

The Founders believed the American people, possessors of deeply rooted character and values, could prosper if left free to:

  • acquire and own property
  • have access to free markets
  • produce what they wanted
  • work for whom and at what they wanted
  • travel and live where they would choose
  • acquire goods and services which they desired

Such a free market economy was, to them, the natural result of liberty, carried out in the economic dimension of life. Their philosophy tend­ed to enlarge individual freedom - not to restrict or diminish the individual's right to make choices and to succeed or fail based on those choices. The economic role of their Constitutional government was simply to secure rights and encourage commerce. Through the Constitution, they granted their government some very limited powers to:

Adam Smith called it "the system of natural liberty." James Madison referred to it as "the benign influence of a responsible government." Others have called it the free enterprise system. By whatever name it is called, the economic system envisioned by the Founders and encouraged by the Constitution allowed individual enterprise to flourish and triggered the greatest explosion of economic progress in all of history. Americans became the first people truly to realize the economic dimension of liberty.


Footnote: Our Ageless Constitution, W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part III:  ISBN 0-937047-01-5

30 posted on 03/07/2010 12:48:40 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: DungeonMaster
Capitalism isn’t evil, people are evil.

And one nice thing about capitalism is potential customers can take their business elsewhere and tell the evil people to pound sand.

31 posted on 03/07/2010 12:51:16 PM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: dfwgator

Thanks for posting. I’m going to try out that song.


32 posted on 03/07/2010 12:54:39 PM PST by married21
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To: ezfindit

This country was conceived in liberty, religious freedom, individualism and pursuit of self interests... free from government intrusion, tyranny, and control.

Capitalism is the economic engine of a free people when government is banned from interfering in free market principles of supply & demand, choice & value, success & failure. Government’s job is to protect the self-interests of our private-market economy. Not interfere by socializing the losses and at the same time privatizing the gains!

Capitalism, like our constitution... and like all the blessings of liberty, are made for a moral and religious people and is wholly unfit for any other.

Quote from another freeper which says it well:
The “goal” of capitalism is FREEDOM. Actually, Capitalism is a byproduct of Freedom. It’s not a “system”, it’s just what happens when free individuals trade among themselves freely. It really has no goal, it simply IS. You can’t implement it; all you can do is screw it up (Socialism, totalitarianism, other-isms).

Socialism has never eliminated poverty. But it has ended human rights and personal liberties.


33 posted on 03/07/2010 1:22:35 PM PST by Bellagio
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To: ezfindit

Capitaism is Karl Marx’ name for Free Enterprise, the generator of a country’s wealth. You can’t get by without it,

You CAN get along without Socialism, however.


34 posted on 03/07/2010 2:17:19 PM PST by RoadTest (Wealth isn't obscene. Poverty is obscene. - Thomas (man of few but dynamite words) Sowell)
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To: Lazamataz

35 posted on 03/07/2010 3:33:41 PM PST by 4Liberty ( we have a rat problem .)
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To: ezfindit
it is without a solid moral compass governing the market.

But that wasn't a problem until Rand posited it as a religion.

36 posted on 03/07/2010 4:15:20 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (let the rich eat the rich.)
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To: RoadTest
Capitalism is Free Enterprise dressed up as a moral system.
37 posted on 03/07/2010 4:16:20 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (let the rich eat the rich.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Actually, "capitalism" is just a derogatory term invented by Engels IIRC to damage free trade among peoples and between individuals.

It was one of the first attempts of his and Marx's socialism to insert government into natural human transaction and communication.

38 posted on 03/07/2010 4:57:01 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
It was one of the first attempts of his and Marx's socialism to insert government into natural human transaction and communication.

As I understand it, marx was prescient about what perversities would abound when the stewards of the free mareket were disabused of their moral consciences. Hence the necessity to secularize the society of their moral and religious foes in the West.

And guess what? He was right.

39 posted on 03/07/2010 5:00:39 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (let the rich eat the rich.)
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To: ezfindit
Socialists are quite clever in suggesting that "capitalism" is evil.

Capitalism (i.e. free and easy trade of goods and services between humans) is only one of the outer edges of the free interaction of people.

The goal of socialism is to invade all free movement of humans and to replace freedom with an authoritarian government.

Socialism leverages itself on the belief that nature is not fair and that it (nature and the natural behavior of humans) must be oppressed. Nature must be destroyed/murdered and replaced with a human contrivance.

The conundrum of socialism and socialists is that if humans are so evil...why is it that some of them are so blameless/sinless as to be able to design, implement, and manage a system which transcends human evil!

40 posted on 03/07/2010 5:07:44 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Good point...take away human morals from the free trade of goods, services, ideas, etc. and what are you left with?

The Chicago way of doing business!

The answer? Regulation, the Chicago Way!

41 posted on 03/07/2010 5:11:53 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
The answer? Regulation, the Chicago Way!

That, I believe, was the plan, wickedly effective as it has been.

But it ain't over...

42 posted on 03/07/2010 5:13:48 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (let the rich eat the rich.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I agree!

But I do take some solace in the fact the Axelrod (as reported in the NY Times this weekend) is near burnout. Obviously, holding back the tide of freedom loving Americans isn't quite as easy as the Chicago mafia thought it would be.

43 posted on 03/07/2010 5:22:38 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

crucifixion would we too good for Axelrod and co.


44 posted on 03/07/2010 5:27:28 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (let the rich eat the rich.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
something good from chicago once came...
45 posted on 03/07/2010 5:40:04 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (let the rich eat the rich.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Actually, I think Chicago is a great town. It just has a very bad political machine. And its racial politics aren’t exactly free of hatred either.


46 posted on 03/07/2010 6:13:00 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

If capitalism was evil, then libtards would champion it... for libtards *ARE* the voice of evil.


47 posted on 03/07/2010 8:38:00 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: 4Liberty

I like that bumper sticker!!!

:-)


48 posted on 03/07/2010 8:44:37 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: ezfindit

Any system taken to an unblinkered extreme is evil. However the system as we have it implemented now is not intrinsically evil. It is a tool which often does much good anmd I can’t think of a better system off hand...


49 posted on 03/07/2010 10:46:28 PM PST by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: ezfindit

No.


50 posted on 03/08/2010 3:26:20 AM PST by Cindy
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