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Organic coffee: Why Latin America's farmers are abandoning it [lib suicide watch ]
Seattle Times ^ | 3/6/2010 | Ezra Fieser

Posted on 03/07/2010 7:16:48 PM PST by Moe Tzadik

GUATEMALA CITY — Some 450,000 pounds of organic coffee sit in a warehouse here, stacked neatly in 132-pound bags. It's some of the world's best coffee, but Gerardo De Leon can't sell it.

"This is very high quality and it's organic. But ... the roasters don't want to pay extra these days," says the manager of FEDECOCAGUA, Guatemala's largest growers' cooperative, which represents 20,000 farmers.

De Leon is asking $2 per pound for the unroasted coffee, about 50 cents more than the going price. But he says he'll soon have to sell it as conventionally grown coffee, which sells for less.

That's why many Mesoamerican farmers here are starting to give up on organic coffee: The premium price that it used to fetch is disappearing.


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"...The premium price that it used to fetch is disappearing."

What??? 'indigenous peoples' 'of color' wanted to turn a buck and not 'save the planet' ???

1 posted on 03/07/2010 7:16:48 PM PST by Moe Tzadik
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To: Moe Tzadik

I won’t consume anything organic!!!


2 posted on 03/07/2010 7:20:59 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Moe Tzadik

I’ll stick with my Folgers.


3 posted on 03/07/2010 7:21:35 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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To: Moe Tzadik

I guess the organic kids in Birkenstocks have started to count their pennies.


4 posted on 03/07/2010 7:23:39 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: Moe Tzadik

De Leon is asking $2 per pound for the unroasted coffee, about 50 cents more than the going price. But he says he’ll soon have to sell it as conventionally grown coffee, which sells for less.

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Supply and demand sure is a bitch!


5 posted on 03/07/2010 7:24:01 PM PST by festusbanjo (It's not that we tax too little, it's that we spend too damn much!)
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To: dalereed

I won’t either, it was fertilized with poop.

Did you see the latest Penn & Teller on cable? Penn ransacked organic food. It was great.


6 posted on 03/07/2010 7:24:23 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Moe Tzadik
What?? Last week it was reported that libs won't buy electric cars (see Running out of juice: Bay Area electric car dealerships close) driving dealers out of business (dealer Marc Korchin would ask 'Don't you want to help save the planet?' and the customers would retort 'Let someone else save the planet. I want something with good speed.').

Now the green-freak libs won't even pay a measley 25% premium for pure organic coffee? What's the world coming to? Next thing you know they won't even pay 50% more for pure, non-carboniferous, windmill-made electrons unless the government makes them!

7 posted on 03/07/2010 7:25:17 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Ditter
I didn't see it but I had all the organic buggy produce I ever want to see in the 30s and 40s!

Analyze the soil for the crop and fertilize it with the proper chemicals and use pesticides to eliminate the bugs and i’m first in line!!!

8 posted on 03/07/2010 7:28:56 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Graybeard58
rules rules
9 posted on 03/07/2010 7:29:33 PM PST by omega4179 (jdforsenate.com hunt some rinos 2010)
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To: Moe Tzadik
I like a good organic coffee when I can get it, but I won't pay a high price for it.

Here in Vermont we have a LOT of organic coffee and fair-prices-to-the-growers coffee.

Actually my wife once bought a five-pound bag of this hippie coffee, on sale at the local co-op. It was the best coffee I've ever tasted, but I wouldn't want to pay full price for it. The name of it is a real hoot. But it's delicious. I hope we can get some more one day, if it ever goes on sale again.


10 posted on 03/07/2010 7:29:54 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Graybeard58

If it’s not processed it’s not coffee.


11 posted on 03/07/2010 7:30:56 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Moe Tzadik

The dude needs to sell it direct to consumers online. The *real* free market. :)


12 posted on 03/07/2010 7:31:02 PM PST by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: Ditter
I won't eat anything from China either!

I've seen too many films of their produce fertilized with honey buckets!

The younger generations probably aren’t allowed to see such things!

13 posted on 03/07/2010 7:31:46 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Graybeard58

We had someone over who went on and on about all the gourmet coffees he drank and how good they all were.

Then my wife served our coffee, and he started talking about ‘his’ coffees again, trying to guess what this new wonderful coffee was.

He was startled to find out it was plain ‘ole Folgers


14 posted on 03/07/2010 7:33:22 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Moe Tzadik

The article doesn’t make any sense. The demand for it is going up, but the price is going down?


15 posted on 03/07/2010 7:33:24 PM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: Moe Tzadik

Well at least it isn’t Starbucks!


16 posted on 03/07/2010 7:34:01 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Moe Tzadik
I wonder if they could sell direct to American customers on Amazon.com.

Probably not.

17 posted on 03/07/2010 7:34:53 PM PST by TChad
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To: Moe Tzadik

I have been a customer of the same coffee roaster for over 15 years, and I have had to switch to a blended coffee, due to the low quality of their Columbian beans. If they could find good quality, they could find someone to buy it. Trust me, I would be first in line.
Hello, my name is bigredkitty1 and I am a caffeine addict.


18 posted on 03/07/2010 7:39:44 PM PST by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: domenad

If demand is up and price is down.

Then the problem is oversupply.


19 posted on 03/07/2010 7:44:14 PM PST by GeronL (I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: dalereed
LOL! I know what you are trying to say, but that just sounds funny.

What are you going to eat, styrofoam peanuts?

20 posted on 03/07/2010 7:47:20 PM PST by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: bigredkitty1

I tend to like east African coffees myself. The absolute best coffee (in my opinion) is what I get when I eat Ethiopian food. They actually roast the beans to order for coffee! Rich, strong, not bitter and a completely different mouth feel. If you enjoy coffee for more than just go juice, I recommend that you try it.


21 posted on 03/07/2010 7:49:45 PM PST by 31R1O
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Problem is that the 25% premium at the wholesale level becomes more like 100% at the retail level. Too many overly greedy middle-men.


22 posted on 03/07/2010 7:50:16 PM PST by GregoryFul
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To: Moe Tzadik

I prefer organic coffee.


23 posted on 03/07/2010 7:50:18 PM PST by FTJM
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To: Graybeard58

So would I. Can get a bucket of it for $5. And it stores longer.

Unfortunately my wife insists on getting the expensive stuff at $7 to $9 a lb, when it’s on sale.


24 posted on 03/07/2010 7:53:17 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Graybeard58

I insist on Chase & Sanborn.

25 posted on 03/07/2010 7:54:11 PM PST by Neanderthal
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To: omega4179

Ja, shore...Mrs. Olsen.


26 posted on 03/07/2010 7:55:03 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: Moe Tzadik

that’s too bad, organic coffee is delicious.


27 posted on 03/07/2010 7:55:08 PM PST by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum)
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To: 31R1O

Rich, strong, not bitter and a completely different mouth feel. If you enjoy coffee for more than just go juice, I recommend that you try it.

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Exactly. I cannot stand it when people claim burned beans equals strong coffee. All the caffeine and coffee oils are roasted out of them.


28 posted on 03/07/2010 7:56:08 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Anti-Utopian
“What are you going to eat, styrofoam peanuts?”

No but im not going to buy anything fertilized with shit and not raised utilizing pesticides!

29 posted on 03/07/2010 7:56:46 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Porterville

30 posted on 03/07/2010 7:56:58 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 409 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

Is that your flag or philosophy?


31 posted on 03/07/2010 7:57:56 PM PST by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum)
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To: domenad

>>The demand for it is going up, but the price is going down?<<

As usual, the writers of the article don’t know even Econ 101. If there is “demand” but “not at the price” then that isn’t “demand.” It is “quantity demanded.”

Any child of 12 should know the difference (although, sadly few do). Any college grad and every politician should also know 9and sadly, few do).


32 posted on 03/07/2010 7:59:34 PM PST by freedumb2003 ( Tagline lost -- anyone seen it?)
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To: Graybeard58

Folgers Black Silk. Good.


33 posted on 03/07/2010 7:59:38 PM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: omega4179

Didn’t she marry Juan Valdez?


34 posted on 03/07/2010 7:59:41 PM PST by TChad
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To: bigredkitty1
Hello, my name is bigredkitty1 and I am a caffeine addict.

THIS, ma'am, is a stone cold caffeine addict:


35 posted on 03/07/2010 8:00:12 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 409 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Sharrukin

>>Exactly. I cannot stand it when people claim burned beans equals strong coffee. All the caffeine and coffee oils are roasted out of them.
<<

There is a reason people who actually TASTE the coffee 9as opposed to being impressed by the branding) call it “charbucks.”


36 posted on 03/07/2010 8:01:53 PM PST by freedumb2003 ( Tagline lost -- anyone seen it?)
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To: Porterville
Is that your flag or philosophy?

No.

This is:


37 posted on 03/07/2010 8:02:14 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 409 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Neanderthal

Now THAT is a coffee I can get behind!


38 posted on 03/07/2010 8:02:23 PM PST by freedumb2003 ( Tagline lost -- anyone seen it?)
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To: freedumb2003

39 posted on 03/07/2010 8:03:45 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 409 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: bigredkitty1
Hello, my name is bigredkitty1 and I am a caffeine addict.

I can quit any time I want to. I just haven't happened to want to, for the past few decades.

40 posted on 03/07/2010 8:03:53 PM PST by TChad
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To: TChad

41 posted on 03/07/2010 8:04:28 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 409 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

Is that the queen of the hop?


42 posted on 03/07/2010 8:10:33 PM PST by TChad
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To: dalereed

I know what you meant, but before libtards hijacked the word “organic,” it was a term used to describe living or formerly living things. Since I’m not libtard, when you say “I’m not eating organic food,” it makes me laugh, since that leaves only inorganics like rocks.


43 posted on 03/07/2010 8:12:56 PM PST by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: Moe Tzadik
"That's why many Mesoamerican farmers..."

What a pretentious twit.
44 posted on 03/07/2010 8:14:04 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: null and void

Hell that’s mine too.


45 posted on 03/07/2010 8:16:17 PM PST by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum)
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To: Moe Tzadik
There's a coffee shop not far from Harvard Square (yah,*that* Harvard) that I pass by from time to time called "The Clear Conscience Cafe".In the window you see signs boasting of how the growers of the coffee beans are paid a fair price for their product...blah,blah,blah.

Maybe they should plan to expand in order to help these growers out.

46 posted on 03/07/2010 8:19:24 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Graybeard58

My first choice is Dunkin Doughnuts coffee...yummy!


47 posted on 03/07/2010 8:23:10 PM PST by joesjane (The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: null and void
Whenever I think about coffee, this poster always pops into my head.

:-P


48 posted on 03/07/2010 8:29:13 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
OMG, they are totally psychotic!

From their website:

Renovations for C3 were done in accordance with LEED green building guidelines, using renewable resources, reclaimed materials, and energy efficient products wherever possible.
Come in and check out our counter top made of recycled glass, tables made of sunflower seed husks and bamboo, and our eco-friendly Marmoleum floor.
Construction was completed with non-VOC paints and materials, energy efficient lights and appliances, and lo-flow water fixtures.

I don't see any Global Carbon Offsets paid to Al Gore's fraudster company to cover the bean's flight to Logan and trucking to a roaster and then the store though...

49 posted on 03/07/2010 8:32:04 PM PST by Moe Tzadik
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To: Graybeard58
I’ll stick with my Folgers.

I'll stick with my YUletide BANquet.

It's cheap and gets the job done.

50 posted on 03/07/2010 8:34:20 PM PST by thecodont
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