Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama’s New ‘Poverty’ Measurement
National Review ^ | March 8, 2010 | Robert Rector

Posted on 03/08/2010 6:39:30 AM PST by reaganaut1

This week, the Obama administration announced it will create a new poverty-measurement system that will eventually displace the current poverty measure. This new measure, which has little or nothing to do with actual poverty, will serve as the propaganda tool in Obama’s endless quest to “spread the wealth.”

Under the new measure, a family will be judged “poor” if its income falls below a certain specified income threshold. Nothing new there, but, unlike the current poverty standards, the new income thresholds will have a built-in escalator clause: They will rise automatically in direct proportion to any rise in the living standards of the average American.

The current poverty measure counts absolute purchasing power — how much steak and potatoes you can buy. The new measure will count comparative purchasing power — how much steak and potatoes you can buy relative to other people. As the nation becomes wealthier, the poverty standards will increase in proportion. In other words, Obama will employ a statistical trick to ensure that “the poor will always be with you,” no matter how much better off they get in absolute terms.

The Left has promoted this idea of an ever-rising poverty measure for a long time. It was floated at the beginning of the War on Poverty and flatly rejected by Pres. Lyndon Johnson. Not so President Obama, who consistently seeks to expand the far-left horizons of U.S. politics.

The weird new poverty measure will produce very odd results. For example, if the real income of every single American were to magically triple over night, the new poverty measure would show there had been no drop in “poverty,” because the poverty income threshold would also triple. Under the Obama system, poverty can be reduced only if the incomes of the “poor” are rising faster

(Excerpt) Read more at article.nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhofascism; bhosocialism; demagogue; demagoguery; democrats; fubo; obama; poverty; redistribution; socialism; spreadthewealth; stealthewealth
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-56 next last
They are waging war on all fronts.
1 posted on 03/08/2010 6:39:30 AM PST by reaganaut1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

An inflation indexed poverty level. Well if you’re going to believe in poverty levels at all, then inflation indexing them would seem to make sense. But, will deflation cause these levels to fall?


2 posted on 03/08/2010 6:42:24 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Ah yes, the old change the game to match the new rules ploy.....


3 posted on 03/08/2010 6:42:33 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
They are waging war on all fronts.

Yes. And we need to do the same.

4 posted on 03/08/2010 6:44:33 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

The bible already says the poor will always be with us.


5 posted on 03/08/2010 6:45:12 AM PST by DungeonMaster (A Christian Democrat is better than a heathen Republican)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Median world income is $2/day per person.

If you’re making more than half the people on the planet, you’re not poor.


6 posted on 03/08/2010 6:46:12 AM PST by ctdonath2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

So Obama denigrates success and elevates failure. Whats new about that? Level the playing field doncha know. And add some numbers to it - call it science - worked for Algore.
Fraud


7 posted on 03/08/2010 6:47:48 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

“Under the Obama system, poverty can be reduced only if the incomes of the ‘poor’ are rising faster than the incomes of everyone else.”

Well, we’ve been GIVING ‘poor’ people money, cheap housing, free food, free medical, free education, free bus passes, not limiting them to the number of kids they can have and paying for each and every one for about 50 years now.

And they’re still poor...and there’s more of them than ever before! If you build it, they WILL come.

This is just another sneaky way the Left can conduct more wealth redistribution. They’re not fooling me...or many others, anymore.


8 posted on 03/08/2010 6:50:48 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

I wonder what our future slave owners, the Chinese, think about this new waste of their money.


9 posted on 03/08/2010 6:57:06 AM PST by Waryone (So tired of blog pimps)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

There is a vast poverty bureaucracy. This insures that its members will always be employed. Very clever move on their part.


10 posted on 03/08/2010 6:57:32 AM PST by freespirited (We're not the Party of No. We're the Party of HELL NO!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Communism: Keep fixing it until it stays broke.


11 posted on 03/08/2010 7:00:11 AM PST by CDFingers (I don't want 0bama to fail. He wants it bad enough for the both of us!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Let's all watch as ONE Man spends the wealth of an entire Planet.


12 posted on 03/08/2010 7:03:52 AM PST by Falcon4.0
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

This should tick a lot of people off.

Just like this dummb move by zero.


Short-Sale Program to Pay Homeowners to Sell at a Loss
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2466213/posts


13 posted on 03/08/2010 7:05:28 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Hey zero, It is NOT Bush's fault anymore.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Repeat after me...Socialism is your friend....Mmmm,Mmmm,Mmmm

Kiss this experiment goodbye, unless something is done real soon.


14 posted on 03/08/2010 7:09:39 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: illiac

15 posted on 03/08/2010 7:10:44 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: HiTech RedNeck

“An inflation indexed poverty level. Well if you’re going to believe in poverty levels at all, then inflation indexing them would seem to make sense.”

Current poverty levels already ARE indexed for inflation, so that poverty-level purchasing power stays constant over time. But most families have incomes that beat inflation over time, i.e., their standard of living RISES as the breadwinners increase their earnings through promotions within their own companies, or take higher paying jobs at other companies (or start their own businesses etc.). Obama is proposing to tie poverty levels to median family incomes, which would mean a) the “war on poverty” by definition can never be won (as even if we triple our standard of living instantaneously, there always will be SOME families below X% of the median); b) ever-growing costs of government, since a large number of government benefits programs (Medicaid, SCHIP, Food Stamps, SSI, TANF) are tied to poverty thresholds, thus much larger numbers of people would qualify for benefits over time than would have qualified under an absolute (albeit inflation-adjusted) standard.

Needless to say, that’s the whole point: when put into legislative form, this should be titled the Federal Bureaucrats Full and Permanent Employment Act since that is effectively the really motivation behind this proposal.


16 posted on 03/08/2010 7:12:02 AM PST by DrC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: freespirited

Yeah, but the leftists are (as usual) propagating their paychecks at our expense and at the expense of future American generations.

We need to stop this madness. Any way we can.


17 posted on 03/08/2010 7:24:10 AM PST by XenaLee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
The new measure will count comparative purchasing power — how much steak and potatoes you can buy relative to other people.

Obama must have been sleeping in church this day:

Don't Compare Yourself To Others

Romans 12 v 4 - 6

In this way we are like the various parts of a human body. Each part gets its meaning from the body as a whole, not the other way around. The body we're talking about is Christ's body of chosen people. Each of us finds our meaning and function as a part of his body. But as a chopped-off finger or cut-off toe we wouldn't amount to much, would we? So since we find ourselves fashioned into all these excellently formed and marvellously functioning parts in Christ's body, let's just go ahead and be what we were made to be, without enviously or pridefully comparing ourselves with each other, or trying to be something we aren't.

Leftism is a sin.

18 posted on 03/08/2010 7:41:48 AM PST by Reeses
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...
The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list...

19 posted on 03/08/2010 7:50:21 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

They are waging war on all fronts.


Exactly!


20 posted on 03/08/2010 7:54:14 AM PST by unkus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-56 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson