Skip to comments.Runaway Prius Needed Help to Stop: CHP
Posted on 03/08/2010 6:42:10 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
California Highway Patrol officers say their patrol car acted as a brake for a Toyota Prius with a stuck accelerator Monday.
The car, headed eastbound on Interstate 8, was going at a high rate of speed because the accelerator was stuck, according to CHP spokesperson Brian Pennings.
The patrol car moved in front of the Prius and engaged its brakes to bring the Prius to a stop, according to CHP.
The car eventually stopped on the highway near the La Posta Bridge in the area of the Golden Acorn Casino.
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People are idiots put the fricking thing in neutral and stop
My daughters friend from work had this happen to him. Was not a Prius, it was another Toyota model.
Yeah. If you can’t control your ride. Don’t drive.
BS....probably driving while demoncrat.
and turn the ignition OFF!
I am starting to wonder about these “runaway” incidents. I think that a lot of this is lawsuit hunting.
I mean, comeon! Anyone with a half a braincell should be able to think — engine out of control, disengage engine.
I don’t believe it and I don’t like Toyota. I would take a Honda over a Toyo and own a Ford product which I like.
Toyos and Toyo Lexuses are over rated. Lots of times their owners are libs.
Or turn the ignition off(without locking the steering wheel)
Im serious i had a couple of WFO’s in some old cars smash in the clutch and stop wtf is so hard
Remember when the accelerator stuck on your 38 Chevy and you turned the key off and then on again and blew the dual Smithy Steelpaks off...
No you don’t want to lose vacuum boost to the brakes
I believe that the computer sensor has to recognize that brake is on to allow you to put it into park or neutral. When these cars get possessed the computer doesn’t recognize that the brake pedal is pressed so it doesn’t slow the car or allow it to go into neutral or park.
and turn the ignition OFF!
Ummmm..., don't do that while driving... or you'll be in a heap of trouble... LOL...
Why yes yes i do
Toyotas are usually bought as appliances by people who don’t care about driving. So when their driving appliance malfunctions, they are the least likely to know what to do about it.
That always worked good at around 3AM.
And why don’t the drivers stop depressing the gas pedal?
Not in Neutral
They probably caught him speeding and he just said the accelerator was stuck... LOL...
That’s what I’m sayin’....
And why dont the drivers stop depressing the gas pedal?
Ummmm... the cruise control did it... was stuck on 120 MPH... LOL....
I didn’t even know Toyota make keyboards but I was in Best Buy today and picked this one uppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
I’m personally qequivocal as to whether this phenom is reality or fantasy. I believe Toyota generally builds fine quality cars.
But I would opine that there is a computer programming fault when, should the computer detect simultaneous “energetic” depression of *both* the brake and the gas pedals, it doesn’t either crank back the gas or assign priority to the brake. Or both.
NO car needs to have the brake on to be put into neutral!
My accelerator stuck wide open on my Delta 88 while I was commuting into Detroit on M-14. I waited a few miles for a better exit with a service station. I wasn’t traveling much faster than the flow of traffic (I was going about 95mph).
Cars back in Al’s day had vacuum powered wipers and Al would pull the hose off and go down Mulholland drive backfiring all the way to he bottom... at 3AM while Al drank his 14th Lucky Lager tossing the bottles out the window...
BAD idea for a woman with power steering. Put the thing in neutral to disengage the tranny.
Is there a reason (besides stupidity) why the ingition can’t be turned to the off position on these cars?
These stories are so implausible.
“”Sikes said his Prius seemed to be accelerating on its own — reaching speeds of more than 90 mph on Interstate 8 at one point — before he called the California Highway Patrol. A CHP officer was able to locate Sikes, then pull alongside him and instruct him over the patrol car’s PA system on how to slow the car down. Eventually, after the Prius stopped, the officer placed his patrol vehicle in front of the car as it came to a stop in the No. 1 lane of eastbound I-8. Initial reports from the CHP incorrectly stated that the patrol car pulled in front of the Prius, acting as an additional brake to get the car to stop.
Sikes said he was standing on the brake pedal, trying to slow down.
“I was on the brakes pretty healthy,” Sikes said. “It wasn’t stopping, it wasn’t doing anything to it, and just kept speeding up, kept going, and I called 911 right away, and they were trying to tell me what to do, but I couldn’t hold the phone and the steering wheel properly at the same time, so I just kept trying my methods, dropped the phone and it just kept going faster. I just stayed on the brakes as much as I could until finally they started smelling really bad and I had metal sounds coming in the car.”
Sikes said the CHP officer arrived shortly afterward and told him to use the emergency brake. He also tried to shut off the car, which it finally did, then he rolled to a stop near the La Posta Bridge in the area of the Golden Acorn Casino.””
Many reports from the people that have experienced these problems state that they made numerous attempts to turn off the key and that did not work either.
I can put my Lexus into neutral with the engine on and the accelerator depressed. It is then a simple matter to brake and pull off the road.
That is what I thought, keep hearing these stories of runaway cars and cannot understand why they don’t shut it down?
On the morning drive to work last week, I got caught behind a vehicle in the right lane that was going about 45 in a 65. As I inched up, I was able to determine that it was a Toyota.
I thought, out loud, “Aren’t these things supposed to go like hell??”
Reminded me of a silly experience in my past lol! I had a 71 Trans Am with a stroker Chevy motor. As I had changed the ignition over and had an MSD box and a hidden switch to control the ignition voltage as a security system, one day while driving I realized I only needed the ignition to start the car. So I switched it off while driving....
Shortly after that I realized the steering was locked, shortly after that I was relieved to only hit a stop sign. I knew from experience those suckers go down without a fight. Guess I am just one of those people who learns by peeing on the electric fence.
That was nearly as fun as the time I got a custom built set of leaf springs. I figured these were so badass I didn’t need shocks. Sort of like riding a 460 hp frog through an entrance ramp to 95...
And you make the best point of all. Don’t those drifters from Japan routinely stomp the throttle and hold the brake just let the wheels burn up some rubber (and make a lot of smoke) while sitting still?
I have been in the auto repair business for 60 years and I actually don’t know a thing about these Prius hybreds. Was this stretch of hyway downhill?
A 50lb car at 50mph. Shouldn’t be hard. On a serious note, can they not be put in neutral? The rev limiter should keep the engine from blowing up.
See my post...
A blown motor is a lot better than dead people.
You’re right. Toyotas are like appliances. Yeah, mt fridge is fun! /s
They do. But it's not like the old days, when the gas pedal was linked to an actual throttle valve which would shut by spring tension when one took their foot off the pedal.
I've never dug into one, or looked at a manual for one, but it's sort-of like "fly by wire", in that control inputs are picked up by sensors, which send signals to a computer, which then (I'm assuming) sends electric impulse to variable servos?
When sensors send bad outputs, either due to localized mechanical sticking or bad erroneous output, computers get confused, or undesirable feedback loops result? Something along those lines, if it's not simply a stuck sensor or control module --- or even computer error, alone?
I'm getting the impression that even Toyota is wondering "what the... hey?"
I hate computers in cars, though they can do wonders for performance, and/or fuel economy.
Well if you see one with a Vietnam Service decal and an American Flag on the rear window don’t honk.
Nothing is mechanical on these new cars, including the transmission/gear shift. Basically they are computers with wheels. If the software is bad, there’s nothing you can do. In once case a Highway Patrolman and his whole family were killed when the car accelerated to 130 MPH and nothing he did would stop it. I heard his 911 call played on a talk show, and clearly the guy was calm, collected, and knew he and his whole family were about to die. His last word was “Pray”.
Don’t believe the BS about floor mats and stuck pedals. It’s the microchips.
BTW if you turn the ignition off, the steering wheel locks.
The Prius has a "power" button, which is enabled by inserting the key fob in a slot below the button. I don't know what happens if you press the power button while on the road or remove the key fob, but I would expect it to turn off the ignition.
In any event, the Prius also has a transmission that can be shifted into neutral, or at least into "park". I doubt that those changes would also be ignored by the throttle.
This is simply another case where the driver panic'ed.
Now why can't I believe that? Accelerating on it's own???
If he was hitting the foot feed in order to try to disengage, at some point before 90 MPH, I think I would get a clue.
The Prius doesn’t really have a “key”. The computer will prevent it from being shut off by simply depressing the “on off button” while driving. I think you need to hold it down to convince it to shut off while in motion.
Also, the “shifter” doesn’t really have neutral. Well, it HAS it, but getting to it is a challenge. All of this done with the usual motorist talents / mentality isn’t something I would expect.
As anyone here who rides a motorcycle can tell you, 99.9% of people have NO BUSINESS or even brain function to be on the road.