Skip to comments.ID Card for Workers Is at Center of Immigration Plan
Posted on 03/09/2010 2:53:08 AM PST by raybbr
Lawmakers working to craft a new comprehensive immigration bill have settled on a way to prevent employers from hiring illegal immigrants: a national biometric identification card all American workers would eventually be required to obtain.
Under the potentially controversial plan still taking shape in the Senate, all legal U.S. workers, including citizens and immigrants, would be issued an ID card with embedded information, such as fingerprints, to tie the card to the worker.
The ID card plan is one of several steps advocates of an immigration overhaul are taking to address concerns that have defeated similar bills in the past.
The uphill effort to pass a bill is being led by Sens. Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) and Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.), who plan to meet with President Barack Obama as soon as this week to update him on their work. An administration official said the White House had no position on the biometric card.
"It's the nub of solving the immigration dilemma politically speaking," Mr. Schumer said in an interview. The card, he said, would directly answer concerns that after legislation is signed, another wave of illegal immigrants would arrive. "If you say they can't get a job when they come here, you'll stop it."
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Personally, I like a national ID card that will allow people to work and to vote. No card? No work, no vote.
I understand that it has echoes of a Police State and Revelation, but I think this still would be a good thing.
More backdoor takeover attempt
I have NO problem with non citizens having to have an ID card...but a national ID card is BS __ Geez why not just tattoo numbers on us..oh wait...”Papers please”
As much as it might make sense...it won’t pass. This immigration plan discussion is mostly bogus and will go nowhere.
It doesn’t stop illegal immigrants from working, as they can still be paid under the table in cash. Meanwhile, CITIZENS of the U.S. have yet another burden placed on them by the Federal Government.
“To receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the Beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the Beast, for it is man’s number. His number is 666....” - Revelations 13: 16-18
One of the rare times I agree with the ACLU. Instead of cutting off welfare and free medical for illegals, and defending our borders we are going to hassle the honest citizens, AGAIN. Honest citizens do this, do that, pay, pay, pay(this ID card won’t be free)Illegals; don’t you worry your pretty little heads about anything. Just sit over there with your hand out and we will give you money.
The bottom lone, this will degenerate into a “let’s see your ID”(scan the info into handy portable devices) for every aspect of our lives.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin
I guess this would take place, just after granting amnesty to
30 million illegal new Obots.
It will double as a voter registration card, no doubt.
There’s a word that needs to be revived in American political parlance, and this travesty is another perfect example of why.
An so it begins.
Your papers please.
The perfect excuse for the communists and Marxists to finally control the once free Americans.
That's all this is about, period.
It is still an amnesty for illegal aliens. The German 1960’s experiment with “guest workers” was an unmitigated failure. See this report from the Center for Immigration Studies: http://cis.org/TemporaryWorkers-Overstays
Additionally, read Kris Kobach’s op-ed in the NYPost May 2007:http://www.nypost.com/f/print/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/rx_for_breakdown_8saK9AesgW4OAnOKYMK7KM
Besides, we already have visa programs in place for those who want to work here.
It’ll be a cold day in hell before these “ID cards” are required to vote, unless they’re handing them out at every cemetary within most city limits.
The idea is that if they force all Americans to carry “biometric” ID cards, then they can legalize all the illegal aliens and nobody will worry anymore about more illegal aliens coming in since they won’t have the “biometric” ID cards. So they won’t come. Or if they do, they will of course be immediately deported, just like we immediately deport illegals now — just ask Obama’s aunty.
And since they don’t have the “biometric” ID card and are known illegals, they won’t be allowed to live in subsidized public housing — just ask Obama’s aunty.
The political class seems to get stupider every day. We, legal citizens, will have to walk around with ID cards that the government can use to track our every movement while they give away benefits to illegal aliens like they do today — just ask Obama’s aunty.
And that stupidest of jackasses, Linseed Graham, is leading the charge.
You think it is hard now to fix misuse of S.S. numbers wait until the fraud starts here.
Could I use the short form of my birth certificate to get one?
Slime-bag Schumer was instrumental in the 1986 Amnesty. He also assured Americans then - concerned about "another wave of" illegals - that with "employee sanctions" in that bill "you'll stop it."
After Schumer 1986 Amnesty legalized 2.5 million, we now have 12-20 million more illegals and the slime-bag is again selling his @#$% with assurances he knows are false.
“Enforce the laws already on the books!”
Too bad the illegals can’t have tatoos put on their foreheads.
But, nooo, gotta make it harder for the legals.
Big Government™ at work!
McCain and his lap dog trampling on the Constitution and on the liberties and freedoms of individual U.S. citizens and lawful residents.
A foreign national ID card already exists. It’s called a PASSPORT.
Amnesty McCain’s friends - Jeff Flake, Mitt, Thompson (sad), Palin, Newt, Graham-nesty. Yeah they are conservatives alright.
“”It’s the nub of solving the immigration dilemma politically speaking,” Mr. Schumer said in an interview. The card, he said, would directly answer concerns that after legislation is signed, another wave of illegal immigrants would arrive. “If you say they can’t get a job when they come here, you’ll stop it.””
R O T F L M A O
I can’t even breathe!!!!
Anything led by Chuck Schumer has to be assumed, on its face, to be fatally flawed.
How will this be any more effective than the current laws requiring proof you’re in the country legally (generally, a birth certificate) to be employed?
” Great! Instead of securing the border and deporting the illegal invaders (too easy) they are going to put biometric trackers on ALL American citizens!”
Hanging is too good for these politicians.
I see a whole new cottage industry of fake ID’s.
And of course telling people they can’t work without a card is like telling a drunk on probation w/no license that he can’t drink and drive.
That works REALLY well.
They say “give us the rest of your liberties, and then we’ll do our job.”
To believe them would be insanity.
FU. I’m not doing it...
This reminds me of a conversation I had a few weeks ago with a woman who works as a nurse. She works on contracts, so she sees a lot of hospitals. She was a bit of a lefty about healthcare because she saw the difficult side of managed care. However, one comment she made stuck with me: She said, "illegals get the best care, because there's no gatekeeper."
Only legals will have to prove their citizenship to work or get benefits. And who are we kidding about whether or not these cards will be able to be faked?
Until, of course, your data ‘disappears’ from the national database because you spoke out against a policy the Administration fancies. Whereupon you can’t work, bank, vote, or a hundred other things that will eventually get tied to this monstrisity.
No thank you.
Work permits for all - haven’t we seen this before? Nazi Germany, the USSR. Next up, travel permits - UN Agenda 21 marches on...
“FU. Im not doing it...”
Something about cold, dead hands........
Did McAmnesty expose himself on this yet?
“And who are we kidding about whether or not these cards will be able to be faked?”
Yup. If there’s a buck to be made with ID cards, someone will do it. I forsee a combo of forgery and govt employees selling blanks on the black market.
It’s called human nature. Libs never take it into account.
They have every tool they need already, but refuse to enforce the law. How does further restricting my freedom address the problem? Not to sound conspiratorial, but it seems like there are larger, anti-freedom, forces at work, and that they have been growing in strength over the last 20 years...
“A foreign national ID card already exists. Its called a PASSPORT.”
Tattoo a Number on arms.
And then the Government (SS?) will decide Who gets the number?
Or will it be tattooed at the hospital when born.
Time to drag out all the old fascist state movies. and dust off my copy of 1984.
But I do aim to misbehave...
My sentiments exactly.
“Mr. Schumer said in an interview. The card, he said, would directly answer concerns that after legislation is signed, another wave of illegal immigrants would arrive.”
I can’t believe Schumer actually admitted that!
When we amnestied the last group of illegals, there were about 3 million...that brought us 20 million.
If this one passes, looking at it historically, this amnesty will get us about 100 million more and the USA will cease to exist.
ID for citizens is NOT the answer!
Secure the border, enforce the law.