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Packard heir slams GOP Senate candidate, former Hewlett-Packard chief Fiorina
L.A. Times ^ | March 8, 2010 | Seema Mehta

Posted on 03/09/2010 10:19:40 AM PST by americanophile

Republican Senate hopeful Carly Fiorina touts her business resume, particularly her years as chief executive of Hewlett-Packard, as the reason GOP voters should nominate her to face Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer.

But this morning, an heir to one of the company’s founders issued a slashing rebuttal, arguing that Fiorina nearly drove the technology firm into the ground.

“I know a little bit about Carly Fiorina, having watched her almost destroy the company my grandfather founded,” wrote Arianna Packard, the granddaughter of David Packard, in a letter posted on www.redstate.com.

Fiorina is in a tough three-way GOP race to take on Sen. Barbara Boxer. Her tenure at Hewlett-Packard was controversial, with Portfolio magazine crowning her one of the 20 worst American chief executives of all time.

Arianna Packard is the daughter of David Woodley Packard, who fought Fiorina when she engineered the merger of Hewlett-Packard and Compaq, a decision that partly led to her firing by the board of directors in 2005. She is also a supporter of and donor to one of Fiorina’s rivals, Orange County Assemblyman Chuck DeVore.

Her letter is a response to one penned by Fiorina backers Sens. James Inhofe, Tom Coburn and Jon Kyl. The three senators wrote, “We are proud to endorse her as a fellow conservative who has real-world business experience and the guts and moxie to take on Barbara Boxer and win. Carly is not a Washington insider. She is a proven business leader who understands the economy and advocates a strong national defense.”

Packard slammed their position, arguing that Fiorina is a failed businesswoman.

“ … allow me to disillusion you of a few of your stated reasons for supporting her,” she wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: fiorina; hewlettpackard; nothanks; rino; senate
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1 posted on 03/09/2010 10:19:40 AM PST by americanophile
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To: americanophile
her years as chief executive of Hewlett-Packard, as the reason GOP voters should nominate her

I think that would be a good reason not to nominate her.

2 posted on 03/09/2010 10:22:03 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Oh gods worst computers ever built. They were then what dell is now.


3 posted on 03/09/2010 10:22:53 AM PST by utherdoul
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To: americanophile
Packard slammed their position, arguing that Fiorina is a failed businesswoman.

Very true, but she's still not quite as dumb as Barbara Boxer. Don't you think that's a winning slogan? < / sarcasm >

4 posted on 03/09/2010 10:23:28 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: americanophile
But this morning, an heir to one of the company’s founders issued a slashing rebuttal, arguing that Fiorina nearly drove the technology firm into the ground.

Agilent, HP, Avago, Compac...........that's her "legacy"............

5 posted on 03/09/2010 10:23:36 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Agreed.


6 posted on 03/09/2010 10:23:43 AM PST by greatplains
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To: antiRepublicrat
Indeed. Here's the good reason:


7 posted on 03/09/2010 10:24:11 AM PST by americanophile
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To: americanophile

Michael Bloomberg is proof that somebody that runs a business doesn’t mean they’re able to run a government at any level.

Bloomberg LP is worth $6 billion? That’s nice, NYC is totally broke and the NYPD budget is over $3 billion last I read. There’s a problem when the budget for the NYPD is more than some countries’ military budgets.


8 posted on 03/09/2010 10:24:25 AM PST by wastedyears (The essence of training is to allow error without consequence.)
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To: americanophile

I remember some scandal involving her. I can’t remember it though.


9 posted on 03/09/2010 10:24:27 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: americanophile

Having worked at HP when she became CEO.. I will have to say that there’s no way in hell I would vote for her.


10 posted on 03/09/2010 10:25:30 AM PST by tje
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To: americanophile

I used to work for Compaq just before the merger and hell yes she ran the company into the ground....


11 posted on 03/09/2010 10:26:26 AM PST by Nat Turner (Escaped from NY in 1983 and not ever going back....)
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To: americanophile

Fiorina is a prime example of what’s wrong with American politics. She was a terrible CEO, and ran a great company into the ground.

Now she wants to be part of running a once great country into the ground. Conservative or not, she’s incompetent to run anything bigger than a corner store.


12 posted on 03/09/2010 10:27:06 AM PST by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: autumnraine

I think she tapped the phones of her boards of directors.

She’s an incompetent sleazeball.


13 posted on 03/09/2010 10:27:10 AM PST by Salo
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To: americanophile
Two Comments posted with the article: "

As Arianna Packard says, most business analysts, as well as tens for thousands of HP employees, view Fiorina as a total business failure. I urge everyone to read what HP employees and alumni have to say about Carly Fiorina at http://www.carly-fiorina.com"

HP people are welcome to post their own criticisms of Carly.

Posted by: WYGK | 03/08/2010 at 12:12 PM

"I worked at HP during the Fiorina years and what Adrianna Packard states is true. All Carly cared about was herself. She made a ton of $$$ on the Compaq merger while she was laying off tens of thousands of employees world-wide plus she also bought a new corporate jet while laying off employees. You can see where she would head if she got elected to the Senate!!!!!"

IMHO: "a Flawed Candidate.No Endorsement.

14 posted on 03/09/2010 10:27:49 AM PST by gitmogrunt
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To: utherdoul
Oh gods worst computers ever built.

You're probably thinking Packard Bell.

15 posted on 03/09/2010 10:28:04 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: americanophile

I knew this was coming


16 posted on 03/09/2010 10:28:13 AM PST by dila813
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To: brownsfan

“Fiorina is a prime example of what’s wrong with American politics. She was a terrible CEO, and ran a great company into the ground.”

On the other hand, Corzine was a great CEO and ran NJ to the ground.


17 posted on 03/09/2010 10:29:16 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: americanophile

http://www.carly-fiorina.com


18 posted on 03/09/2010 10:29:23 AM PST by gitmogrunt
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To: antiRepublicrat

yeah, she’s a real winner huh? I can understand the hype around Meg Whitman but Fiorina???


19 posted on 03/09/2010 10:30:38 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: brownsfan
Conservative or not, she’s incompetent to run anything bigger than a corner store.

Then, she might just fit in perfectly in the US Senate. Just sayin'...

I'd rather have DeVore. I think he won't fit in as well, which is what I'm looking for.

20 posted on 03/09/2010 10:32:36 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: americanophile

Inhofe and Kyl are wrong on this one. If someone’s running against her in a primary he deserves the support of anyone who’s paying attention.


21 posted on 03/09/2010 10:34:38 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: tje

Worked there just before she became CEO. Having met Hewlett and Packard and having about an hours conversation with them, they were both great men. Back then, HP was much more than it is today and considered their employees as their best asset - and really took care of us. Had I been there when Carly became CEO, I would have found another job.


22 posted on 03/09/2010 10:34:59 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: ari-freedom

“On the other hand, Corzine was a great CEO and ran NJ to the ground.”

Being a great CEO doesn’t necessarily mean you would be good in public service. But, being a terrible CEO, especially in the cut of Fiorina excludes you.


23 posted on 03/09/2010 10:36:26 AM PST by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: Nat Turner

I worked for AT&T/Lucent and saw my 401K dwindle to nothing and then she leaves.....would not vote for her EVER


24 posted on 03/09/2010 10:36:35 AM PST by NC Angeleyes
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To: illiac

“Back then, HP was much more than it is today and considered their employees as their best asset - and really took care of us. “

And the product reflected that. Back in those days, HP was a bit pricey for things, but you knew if you bought an HP device, it was top shelf, and quite durable.

Post Fiorina, HP products were crap. I think HP got bit by political correctness. They wanted to hire a WOMAN, not the best PERSON.


25 posted on 03/09/2010 10:39:22 AM PST by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: NC Angeleyes

You have my sympathies NC, as I personally knew many great former Lucent Technology people that got ROBBED when their 401K’s hit the skids also.


26 posted on 03/09/2010 10:40:00 AM PST by Nat Turner (Escaped from NY in 1983 and not ever going back....)
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To: Nat Turner
I used to work for Compaq just before the merger and hell yes she ran the company into the ground....

Were you DIGITAL before Compaq?

27 posted on 03/09/2010 10:41:22 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: ari-freedom
yeah, she’s a real winner huh?

Many CEOs have come into companies in the past and screwed them up. But this was Hewlett-Packard, one of the oldest and most beloved tech firms in the country. The garage where Bill & Dave started the company is even a state historical landmark. Worst, she trashed the "HP way" culture. Being a geek at heart, Bill & Dave are two of my heroes, and she tried to kill what made their baby great.

Basically, she hurt a lot of people not only in the pocketbook, but in the heart.

Maybe Carly is just relying on the fact that most politicians are clueless when it comes to technology and won't know what she's done.

28 posted on 03/09/2010 10:43:15 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: gitmogrunt

She sounds like our current boss man, Mark Hurd.


29 posted on 03/09/2010 10:43:52 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: americanophile

Her letter is a response to one penned by Fiorina backers Sens. James Inhofe, Tom Coburn and Jon Kyl. The three senators wrote, “We are proud to endorse her as a fellow conservative who has real-world business experience and the guts and moxie to take on Barbara Boxer and win. Carly is not a Washington insider. She is a proven business leader who understands the economy and advocates a strong national defense.”
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I just lost a lot of respect for those three senators, at least two of the three I had considered rock solid conservatives. There is only one conservative in the race for senator in CA, and that’s Chuck De Vore. Fiorina is a liberal Republican and also was a poor CEO at HP. She has no political experience and questionable leadership experience.

What she does have is access to more money than the other candidates unless you count the grass roots dollars that De Vore should be able to access.


30 posted on 03/09/2010 10:44:21 AM PST by excopconservative
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To: illiac
considered their employees as their best asset

...those days are long gone.

31 posted on 03/09/2010 10:45:27 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: americanophile

Good. David Packard was a Repub and a good man. HP was probably one of the greatest American companies ever created. Carly treated Bill Hewlett’s son like garbage and almost wrecked HP.


32 posted on 03/09/2010 10:47:03 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: excopconservative
"unless you count the grass roots dollars that De Vore should be able to access."

I wonder this year, with the economy the way it is.

33 posted on 03/09/2010 10:47:15 AM PST by americanophile
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To: Vigilanteman
Very true, but she's still not quite as dumb as Barbara Boxer. Don't you think that's a winning slogan? < / sarcasm >

And Arnold COULDN'T be as bad as Bray Davis. /s

Amazing VM, that we still get that kind of crap here. It's as if they think we don't have memories and can be whipped into line one more time. They've been pulling that line since at least the beginnings of the progressive movement.

34 posted on 03/09/2010 10:49:32 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Post Digital, we were the group that got the old BellSouth subcontract to support their residential DSL service


35 posted on 03/09/2010 10:50:35 AM PST by Nat Turner (Escaped from NY in 1983 and not ever going back....)
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To: illiac
Had I been there when Carly became CEO, I would have found another job.

Good bet. She never understood the rules that brought the best talent to HP and created great products:

  1. We have trust and respect for individuals.
  2. We focus on a high level of achievement and contribution.
  3. We conduct our business with uncompromising integrity.
  4. We achieve our common objectives through teamwork.
  5. We encourage flexibility and innovation.
She had more of an 80s corporate raider mentality, how to make money without actually creating anything of value, employees are bought at the lowest price, and are expendable.
36 posted on 03/09/2010 10:52:13 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: autumnraine

Carly ran out of Lucent just before a serious bogus sales scam. Lucent was booking phantom sales. It was a big deal.


37 posted on 03/09/2010 10:55:11 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: excopconservative

Bush - Riordan

Bush, Santorum - Specter

Inhofe, Coburn, Kyl - Fiorina

The parties don’t care about “we the people” anymore.

Republicans just can’t wait to get back to business as usual and their own sweetheart backroom deals. They’ll kick the Tea Partiers to the curb once they’re returned to power.

Classic Lucy and Charlie Brown football scenario.


38 posted on 03/09/2010 10:56:09 AM PST by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: tje

For those who never had to endure Carly as CEO these words are true and worthy. One imagines that such an office requires some significant skill and understanding. Yet nothing about her personally or professionally qualifies. In fact everything about her promotion defied common sense and logic. Think of it in these terms...her being a creditable CEO is like O being a credible pres. Does that help you understand? Now consider her as senator. Then again the voters of CA have given us a delightful basket of fruits and nuts over the years. In that regard Carly fits right in.


39 posted on 03/09/2010 10:59:09 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Salo

THAT WAS IT! I knew it wasn’t something really shady and sleazy.


40 posted on 03/09/2010 11:07:27 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: brownsfan

“Post Fiorina, HP products were crap. I think HP got bit by political correctness. They wanted to hire a WOMAN, not the best PERSON.”

Too true and the Republicans are making the same mistake with both her and Whitman thinking that rather than getting the best person for the job they’ll get the women’s vote by running a woman. This well just lead us further down an already deep hole.


41 posted on 03/09/2010 11:08:29 AM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: streetpreacher

“Republicans just can’t wait to get back to business as usual and their own sweetheart backroom deals. They’ll kick the Tea Partiers to the curb once they’re returned to power.”

You are absolutely, 100% correct.


42 posted on 03/09/2010 11:10:11 AM PST by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Don’t forget the “great” job she did at Lucent.


43 posted on 03/09/2010 11:12:22 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: americanophile
There are millions happy with her -- though so far Chinese and Indians cannot vote here unless they come here to vote -- like on their vacation or something.

"There is no job that is America’s God-given right anymore." H-P CEO Fiorina

44 posted on 03/09/2010 11:12:32 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: americanophile

Ms. Carly needs to be run out of town on a wagon especially how she ran HP and Lucent before her into the ground. This is a time that she needs to be held accountable for her selfish greed, the ballot box. They was she put little thought into what benefits the company, their employees and customers is how she will be in the US Senate. No thanks.....


45 posted on 03/09/2010 11:35:26 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: gitmogrunt

She ws the one who stated...”I don’t think American workers have a God Given Right to a job”, in response to company cuts and decisions concerning off shoring manufacturing.


46 posted on 03/09/2010 11:46:26 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: antiRepublicrat

Packard Bells were good computers, my mother is still operating hers 11 years after we bought it with the original hard drive(8 gigs). Compaqs after 2001 turned crappy!


47 posted on 03/09/2010 11:49:07 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: americanophile

Did Carly Fiorina reign over HP as their calulators and printers turned to crap?


48 posted on 03/09/2010 11:58:31 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: gitmogrunt
http://www.carly-fiorina.com

Wow, she couldn't even manage to reserve that site for herself? Sounds like an epic FAIL.

49 posted on 03/09/2010 12:05:37 PM PST by Moltke (DOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the Big House - HOPE will get you 4 to 8 in the White House.)
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To: Moltke; mdmathis6; snippy_about_it

Word needs to get out in California, so this fraud does NOT get elected to anything!


50 posted on 03/09/2010 12:10:05 PM PST by gitmogrunt
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