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Americans seem to want them but can the Republicans deliver? (2012 GOP nomination)
The London Telegraph ^ | March 9, 2010 | Simon Heffer

Posted on 03/09/2010 3:17:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The race for the Republican Party's presidential nomination has started, though the election itself is 32 months away. Even in a place so brash and up-front as the United States there is some subtlety, at least at this stage, about the process. Sarah Palin, beloved of much of middle America despite her limitations, is doing the equivalent of turning up at weddings and bar mitzvahs and, as we say in Britain, putting herself about. However Mitt Romney, the man deemed by America's media to be the front runner, is (as his greater experience would seem to dictate) more sophisticated in his approach. He has written a book – No Apology – and is undertaking a 40-stop national tour to promote it. It looks astonishingly like an election campaign.

The Republican Party is giving the impression of once more being a serious fighting force in its opposition to the Obama programme for America. This may be deceptive. Its opposition to the Democrats, who not only occupy the White House but control both houses of Congress, is based for the moment more on contradiction than on constructive engagement. When Mr Obama won his great victory, he and his adherents liked to represent it as a mandate for change. It is now clear it was not. America wanted to punish the Republicans for dragging America down in the world between 2001 and 2009; and Mr Obama was their weapon of retribution. He has served his purpose now: America has decided it remains a centre-Right country in which Democrats and other breeds of Leftist represent opinion more marginal than is apparent from the noise they make. All that remains is to get the Republicans organised again.(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 03/09/2010 3:17:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's your 2012 GOP candidate
2 posted on 03/09/2010 3:19:14 PM PST by Falcon28 (Allen West - 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was going to be on Sarah’s bandwagon from the get-go but her incessant and unapologetic support of RINO’s really has me in more of a “wait and see” mode right now.

CAN the pubbies fix what ails us? Yes. WILL they? Depends on what’s in it for them.


3 posted on 03/09/2010 3:21:29 PM PST by Grunthor (Everyone hates the U.S. at least until they need liberated.)
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To: Falcon28

But he’s Black! There is no such thing as a Black Conservative and everyone knows all Republicans are racist and sexist!

(do I need the /sarc? — for the libtard lurkers I probably do)


4 posted on 03/09/2010 3:23:24 PM PST by freedumb2003 ( Tagline lost -- anyone seen it?)
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To: Grunthor
"I was going to be on Sarah’s bandwagon from the get-go but her incessant and unapologetic support of RINO’s really has me in more of a “wait and see” mode right now."

If by RINOs, you mean Senator John McCain, that's called "loyalty" to a decorated veteran that chose you for the vice presidency. I'm no fan of Sen. McCain, but I understand why she might do that. Please name another RINO that Governor Palin has supported.

5 posted on 03/09/2010 3:25:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, the Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Please name another RINO that Governor Palin has supported.”

Rand Paul.


6 posted on 03/09/2010 3:28:17 PM PST by Grunthor (Everyone hates the U.S. at least until they need liberated.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait I might be wrong on that Rand Paul comment....I’ll have to look that up.


7 posted on 03/09/2010 3:28:46 PM PST by Grunthor (Everyone hates the U.S. at least until they need liberated.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Like you I can agree that Sarah has a valid reason to support McCain, but given the way McCain’s campaign treated her and given her stated support for genuine conservatives, I do find it a bit distasteful.

I still love her, but I am also taking a “wait and see” outlook.

The only thing I am sure of at this point is that Romney will NOT get my vote.


8 posted on 03/09/2010 3:38:50 PM PST by Ronin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Even in a place so brash and up-front as the United States there is

Grrrrr!

Sarah Palin is younger than Mr Obama and a pin-up for rednecks everywhere

Groan! These bloody British.

but she would be unlikely to be as compelling a candidate as Mr Romney. He was a successful governor of Massachusetts and, unlike Mrs Palin in Alaska, completed his term. Before that, he made a fortune in business and graduated from both Harvard law and business schools. He would, if he became president in 2012, be 65: but the mixture of a good gene pool and plenty of cash have kept him looking groomed and not a day over 50

Shoulda seen that coming

9 posted on 03/09/2010 3:40:41 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Ronin

As I understand it, most of those that treated her badly and later smeared her were former Romney campaign staffers that had been absorbed by the McCain campaign and saw that Governor Palin was dangerous to Governor Romney in 2012. Which is but one more reason not to get behind a Romney candidacy!


10 posted on 03/09/2010 3:42:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, the Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Get used to it people. Sarah will run for the Republican nomination. Sarah will win the nomination. Sarah will become the next POTUS. No candidate, party or earthly force will be able to stop her.


11 posted on 03/09/2010 3:47:40 PM PST by rae4palin (islam is of the devil)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only a ruthless SOB Republican will do in 2012.

I don’t see one...so we must make a decision about what we are willing to do to keep from becoming slaves.

What are we willing to do to save our liberty?


12 posted on 03/09/2010 3:48:53 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Grunthor
Wait I might be wrong on that Rand Paul comment....I’ll have to look that up.

I don't have the facts either on the Kentucky race, but my impression is that Rand Paul is more conservative than Trey Grayson and the latest poll has him 15 points ahead of Grayson who was ahead 15 points himself in July of 2009.

13 posted on 03/09/2010 3:50:18 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I already have a surfeit of reasons not to get behind a Romney candidacy.


14 posted on 03/09/2010 4:00:45 PM PST by Ronin
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To: roses of sharon
Only a ruthless SOB Republican will do in 2012. I don’t see one...

Allen West Allen West

On the 2nd Amendment

On Israel

15 posted on 03/09/2010 4:02:51 PM PST by Falcon28 (Allen West - 2012)
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To: roses of sharon

“Only a ruthless SOB Republican will do in 2012.”

I totally agree. Problem is they are very hard to find. I do not see one in the “hopefuls”.

Romney has been defending the Massachusettes Health-Care, that does not make him look either intelligent or honorable.

Huckabee, I will never vote for. Palin, I am not very sure of. I see a lot of the same swooning that I saw for Princess Diana and for not much better reasons.


16 posted on 03/09/2010 4:03:04 PM PST by David Isaac
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To: David Isaac
“Only a ruthless SOB Republican will do in 2012.” I do not see one in the “hopefuls”.

See #15

17 posted on 03/09/2010 4:09:55 PM PST by Falcon28 (Allen West - 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not with the present member make-up, the leadership and the ‘normal’ BS agenda (platform). It will take a 180’ turn from the norm.

For a starter: no BS. 100% truth. Will TRY to reduce the size of government. Will propose a 10% cut in payrolls and programs. This means many of the ‘entitlement’ programs will be affected. Nation is close to bankruptcy. Will TRY to eliminate any and all rules, regulations and laws that are handcuffing the private sector, and thus would permit more drilling, more nuclear plants, more refineries and the easing of mileage/gallon of gas for motor vehicles. Without a larger private sector there will be no GDP growth and no new jobs. In addition, will TRY to effect standard accounting procedures and bring all ‘off budget’ expenditures to the annual overall budget. Will TRY to adjust Social Security and Medicare so it will not run of funds in the near future. Many of you will not like these new proposed changes, but a little less is better than no benefits. The days of the free lunches are over and personal responsibility is back in vogue. Will TRY to keep taxes low. Will TRY to eliminate some Departments, Energy and Education as starter’s. The Nation is in a serious financial situation and much of this is due to our poor leadership. Years of deficit spending have created a huge
National debt. The path ahead will be bumpy and difficult, but if we in government, show wise leadership and are up front and honest with you, with your help we can recover.


18 posted on 03/09/2010 4:10:52 PM PST by mulligan
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To: Grunthor

On April 7th, Palin will be raising money for Michelle Bachmann. Hannity will be promting his new book at the event as well.


19 posted on 03/09/2010 4:13:55 PM PST by yongin
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To: David Isaac

I agree...except about the swooning, it is an expected reaction (by some) with a beautiful woman pol who so completely reflects ones own values and lifestyle.

But, imo, SP telegraphed she would not run when she joined Fox. If she would have started a world tour.....now that would mean she is running.

So in the meantime we should be planning our resistance.


20 posted on 03/09/2010 4:21:36 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Falcon28

Thanks Falcon....I am watching Col West for any signs he is running.


21 posted on 03/09/2010 4:24:21 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Falcon28

I had not heard of Colonel West. Do you think he has enough legs to take a stab this time around?


22 posted on 03/09/2010 4:32:53 PM PST by David Isaac
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To: roses of sharon; David Isaac
I get the distinct impression that Allen West is preparing a run for 2012. In the video below, he talks about what it might take for a conservative to win in 2012, including winning the "image" and the "substance" battle. His answers are very specific and it made me conclude that this guy is seriously considering running. However, he does need to win in 2010 first (Florida District 22).

VIDEO

23 posted on 03/09/2010 4:52:44 PM PST by Falcon28 (Allen West - 2012)
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To: roses of sharon
Only a ruthless SOB Republican will do in 2012.

Correct.


24 posted on 03/09/2010 4:55:57 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: mulligan
For a starter: no BS. 100% truth.

Unfortunately, many Republicans are sufficiently deep in the corruption that infests Washington that cutting through the web of deceit would cause the public to throw EVERYBODY out. While that may in many ways be a good thing, there are enough people who don't want that to happen--some for perfectly respectable reasons--that it would be well nigh impossible.

25 posted on 03/09/2010 5:03:54 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mr. Romney "Disses" Amateur Radio In Televised Town Meeting

"Mitt Romney...alienating America one group at a time." - AlaskaErik


Gov. Sarah Palin, Governor of the state of Alaska, proclaimed the week of July 28 through August 3, 2008 as: Amateur Radio Week


"Governor Orders POW/MIA Flags Flown for Former Prisoners of War Recognition Day"

"Office of the Governor of the State of Alaska ^ | 04-09-09 | Gov. Sarah Palin
April 9, 2009, Juneau, Alaska – Governor Sarah Palin today signed a proclamation declaring April 9, 2009,
as Former Prisoners of War Recognition Day. The governor has ordered POW/MIA flags
to be flown in honor and memory of American men and women
who have placed themselves in harm’s way and faced the horrors of combat."
“The price paid by POW/MIA soldiers in defense of liberty is worthy of our highest
gratitude and most solemn remembrance,” Governor Palin said.
“On this day and always, they are in our thoughts and prayers. We will never forget them or their service.”

versus


"National Guard Lt. Anthony Circosta poses in his backyard in Agawam, Mass., on June 9, 2007.
At left, his wife Danielle and daughter Kylie, 2, talk near the swing set. Circosta,
a decorated Iraq War veteran, seemed like an ideal candidate for a pardon from
then-Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney for the 29-year-old's boyhood conviction
for a BB gun shooting. Romney denied the pardon,
twice, despite the recommendation of the Governor's Council.
"



26 posted on 03/09/2010 5:36:24 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: roses of sharon
LOL that's what I said awhile ago --we need a strong, tough SOB!

Col West speaks his mind about the very real threat of Islamofacism and would be able to handle any critics from left or right (RINOs). I can picture him winning against Zer0, or Hillary, and in the primary knocking Romney all to hell.

27 posted on 03/09/2010 5:47:14 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: Diogenesis
That's hateful!! Romney=notiously anti-military and spiteful. Spent a couple of years in Paris while other men his age were fighting and dying in Vietnam.

Go away Mitt.

28 posted on 03/09/2010 5:51:32 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now we have the London Telegraph choosing our candidate? I suppose that’s an improvement over Crist choosing McCain for us but...

If we don’t have the sense to nominate Sarah we’ll get just what we deserve—4 more years of Obamsky and the Bolshies.


29 posted on 03/09/2010 8:31:28 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: mulligan

You covered a great deal of the matters that concern most Conservatives. However, you overlooked one that is very important to our economy.

We need a candidate who will stand firmly against illegal aliens remaining in the US and drawing benefits of any type; and who will stand firmly FOR securing the Southern border, finishing the fence that Kay Bailey Hutchison stopped, providing more Border Patrol with fewer restrictions on rules of engagement, providing more power to County Sheriffs regarding illegals, heavily fining or imprisoning employers of illegals, etc.


30 posted on 03/09/2010 9:15:32 PM PST by octex
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