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Mitch Daniels Offers Advice to Republicans
NY Times blogs ^ | March 9, 2010 | JEFF ZELENY

Posted on 03/09/2010 4:08:36 PM PST by yongin

Gov. Mitch Daniels of Indiana offered a piece of advice to fellow Republicans: “Lay down the philosophical swords” to begin rebuilding the party and tackle the nation’s immense challenges. But he urged Republicans to not become too emboldened by the discontent in the electorate.

“Somebody said anger is not a strategy,” Mr. Daniels said in an interview today with editors and reporters from The New York Times. “We have to preach that in our own congregations.”

Mr. Daniels, who is in the middle of his second term as governor, said the politics of a midterm election year would likely prevent Republicans and Democrats from having a serious conversation about the future of Social Security, Medicare and other government programs. But those discussions, he said, should be included in the next presidential race.

While his name is often included as a prospective Republican candidate for president, he said repeatedly that he has no intention of seeking the nomination in 2012.

“I really don’t plan to,” Mr. Daniels said. “I really don’t much want to.”

For the future of the party, he said, Republicans should not become “wrapped around the axle” on social issues. He said the Tea Party has had a “net positive” impact on the political discourse by drawing attention to certain issues, but he warned against reading too much into the power of the movement.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: daniels; nytimes; obamaapologist; rino; vichyrepublican
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1 posted on 03/09/2010 4:08:36 PM PST by yongin
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To: Clintonfatigued; Impy; Clemenza; PhiKapMom; fieldmarshaldj; Norman Bates; AuH2ORepublican

Keep an eye on My Man Mitch.


2 posted on 03/09/2010 4:09:49 PM PST by yongin
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To: yongin

Never heard of this guy. Sounds like a RINO!


3 posted on 03/09/2010 4:10:07 PM PST by rocksblues (Obama, the biggest liar in the history of American politics!)
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To: yongin

I have never heard of him. He sounds like a very wise man.


4 posted on 03/09/2010 4:12:24 PM PST by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: yongin
DANGER! DANGER!

RINO Mitch is speaking!

5 posted on 03/09/2010 4:13:35 PM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: rocksblues

One of the most conservative financial leaders in the Republican party. Squishy on some social issues, but rock ribbed financially.


6 posted on 03/09/2010 4:13:57 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: yongin

“Lay down the philosophical swords”

That’s the worst advice I’ve ever heard. The American people are re-awakening to the necessity of constitutional conservatism and he wants to lay down the swords? WTF is that?


7 posted on 03/09/2010 4:14:17 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rocksblues

The SOB brought DST to Indy. I’ll never forgive him for that. But overall, he’s the best we’ve had in a while.


8 posted on 03/09/2010 4:16:21 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Squishy on some social issues

So, another rino.

9 posted on 03/09/2010 4:16:57 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: yongin

A party without a coherent philosophy is a gang.


10 posted on 03/09/2010 4:17:34 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: pissant

Exactly. The philosophical sword needs to be brandished at every opportunity. WHY is constitutional conservatism the answer for most things.

Troubling. Sounds like something McCain would say.


11 posted on 03/09/2010 4:19:27 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: yongin

Sounds like he gave the NYT writer a wonderful interview.

I’ll neither knock him nor praise him at this early juncture.


12 posted on 03/09/2010 4:19:40 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
"Squishy on some social issues, but rock ribbed financially."

So is "Ah-nuld" the Governator. Sorry, no deal. Mitch can take his moderation (actually disguised liberalism) and stuff it.

13 posted on 03/09/2010 4:20:12 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

That’s what I’d vote for.


14 posted on 03/09/2010 4:23:07 PM PST by babble-on
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To: yongin
“Lay down the philosophical swords” = let the RINOs retain control
15 posted on 03/09/2010 4:23:22 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: Wonder Warthog

you think Schwarzenegger is rock ribbed on financial issues?


16 posted on 03/09/2010 4:23:51 PM PST by babble-on
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To: yongin

Daniels: Liberal RINO.

At least he knows he has no chance of winning the nomination. Daniels sold all the taxpayer funded toll roads to foreign companies.....he got Liberalism, Globalism, and Socialism all in one bucket.

Dismissing the Tea Party movement is Liberal RINOism


17 posted on 03/09/2010 4:24:07 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: AFreeBird

What’s wrong with daylight saving time?


18 posted on 03/09/2010 4:24:39 PM PST by libertybell
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To: AFreeBird

I take it you don’t have young kids. I live west in the time zone too (Michigan) and daylight savings was great when my kids were playing soccer and Little League.


19 posted on 03/09/2010 4:25:24 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: yongin
Way too early to have a serious opinion on Mitch. The interviews I've seen him left a lot to be desired, but I'm still willing to learn more.
20 posted on 03/09/2010 4:25:37 PM PST by Recon Dad ( USMC SSgt Patrick O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 140)
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To: rocksblues

Given the fact that all the RINOs are spouting the same variation of the same line today, I’m guessing Michael Steele sent out some talking points.


21 posted on 03/09/2010 4:26:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: yongin

Let me get this straight, Mitch Daniels is saying that we should lay down our swords, that we should unilaterally disarm ourselves. Is that about right?

Then Mitch offers that we shouldn’t get “wrapped around the axle” on social issues. Hmmm...as in, your stupid conservative values are not worth much?

So, basically, we have old Mitch here telling social conservatives to get lost. Can you imagine Howard Dean or someone telling the Marxists that they should back off on their abortion stance, or that they should be open to domestic drilling in ANWAR, or that they should back off global warming. Just try to imagine that.

Pffft... Mitch Daniels...just another garden-variety RINO.


22 posted on 03/09/2010 4:28:22 PM PST by Obadiah (Democrats and their life partners, the MSM)
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To: pissant

>>“Lay down the philosophical swords”

>>That’s the worst advice I’ve ever heard.

I’m not certain what he meant by that, but to me it could be good advice. Stop battering our heads on the enemy’s armor. They have the media on their side, along with the 50% of the voters that are really ignorant.

We need banners more than swords right now. Come up with some policies that appeal to the people that work for a living (whether it be as business owners, or as employees) and give us all something to rally around.

Teach the American people what communism is again (since many seem to have forgotten or never learned it) and why it is evil and then make them realize that the Progressives are their enemy too.

The GOP could be America’s Party if they pulled their heads out of their butts and looked around at what middle class Americans want.


23 posted on 03/09/2010 4:28:50 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Imagine a day when the politicians have to hold a bake sale to pay for votes!)
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To: yongin

Beware of any pol telling you to lay down your swords!


24 posted on 03/09/2010 4:29:04 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: yongin
Gov. Mitch Daniels of Indiana offered a piece of advice to fellow Republicans: “Lay down the philosophical swords” to begin rebuilding the party and tackle the nation’s immense challenges. But he urged Republicans to not become too emboldened by the discontent in the electorate.

Hey, Mitch, "on the fence" is a very, very bad place to be sitting when the shooting starts.

Pick a side, or shut up and get out of the way.

25 posted on 03/09/2010 4:29:37 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: yongin
Daniels was part of the Reagan Administration when he became chief political advisor and liaison to President Ronald Reagan in August 1985.

On his first day in office, Governor Daniels created Indiana's first Office of Management and Budget to look for inefficiencies and cost savings across state government. In 2005, Governor Daniels led the state to its first balanced budget in eight years and turned the $600 million deficit he inherited into a $300 million surplus in a single year. Governor Daniels used this surplus to repay hundreds of millions of dollars the state had borrowed from Indiana's public schools in previous administrations.

If Daniels is considered a RINO on FR, then the Republican Party is doomed.

26 posted on 03/09/2010 4:31:43 PM PST by AmusedBystander (Just when I think Obama can't get any worse, he surprises me and does.)
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To: libertybell
I don't care one way or the other - EST/EDT, I would just prefer to set my clocks once and forget about it. IOW: Pick a time and stick with it - YEAR ROUND!

This spring back, fall forwards crap is for the birds.

27 posted on 03/09/2010 4:32:59 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: yongin
Mr. Daniels, who is in the middle of his second term as governor, said the politics of a midterm election year would likely prevent Republicans and Democrats from having a serious conversation about the future of Social Security...

Makes it sound like Republicans are to blame to me. Where was Mitch when George Bush tried to reform Social Security and the Democrats squashed that big time? How come no one critisized the Democrats for being obstructionists then?

28 posted on 03/09/2010 4:34:37 PM PST by Obadiah (Democrats and their life partners, the MSM)
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To: pissant

>> WTF is that?

Juvenile.


29 posted on 03/09/2010 4:34:40 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: DallasSun

So “wise” that he told the propaganda organ of the Communist Party...the NYT, that he is willing to lay down his sword to further their agenda.

More balderdash from our overlords.


30 posted on 03/09/2010 4:35:01 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: AmusedBystander

There were a lot of people who were part of the Reagan administration. Some were good, others sucked eggs.


31 posted on 03/09/2010 4:35:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: yongin
He said the Tea Party has had a “net positive” impact on the political discourse by drawing attention to certain issues, but he warned against reading too much into the power of the movement.

Sounds like Mitch is a RINO telling the NYTimes exactly what they want to hear. In fact, the whole interview sounds like the NYTimes found another useful idiot. When will the Times dub him a Party maverick?

32 posted on 03/09/2010 4:37:24 PM PST by Obadiah (Democrats and their life partners, the MSM)
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To: cripplecreek
There were a lot of people who were part of the Reagan administration. Some were good, others sucked eggs.

Of course, and Daniels was one of the good ones.

33 posted on 03/09/2010 4:42:11 PM PST by AmusedBystander (Just when I think Obama can't get any worse, he surprises me and does.)
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To: yongin
Somebody said anger is not a strategy,” Mr. Daniels said in an interview today with editors and reporters from The New York Times.

Hey Mitch, can you take the "kick me" sign off the backs of Republicans now? By the way, we're justifiably angry at what Obama is doing to this country. Go ask the hundreds of thousands now unemployed. By the way, have you spoken to Paul Ryan lately? You do know that we are putting forth ideas, right? Oh, wait, you wanted to impress the NYTimes, sorry. Better call John McCain, he knows how to do that.

34 posted on 03/09/2010 4:42:43 PM PST by Obadiah (Democrats and their life partners, the MSM)
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To: AmusedBystander

There are a number of people on FR who sound like one of Eric Hoffer’s “true believers”.


35 posted on 03/09/2010 4:44:00 PM PST by Sigurdrifta
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To: AmusedBystander

There are a number of people on FR who sound like one of Eric Hoffer’s “true believers”.


36 posted on 03/09/2010 4:44:17 PM PST by Sigurdrifta
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To: AmusedBystander

Imo, a Rino is a pol on the Right who is afraid of the MSM and the DNC.

And Mitch certainly fits that catagory.

Unlike Cheney who he disses to the NYT:

But he said some of Mr. Cheney’s recent comments about the Obama administration had not been helpful for Republicans or in the pursuit of raising the questions about national security.

“There have been occasions where he could have let the argument be made by others,” Mr. Daniels said. He added, “Sometimes his tone isn’t as effective as it could be.”

Now THIS is Rino-speak.


37 posted on 03/09/2010 4:44:22 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: roses of sharon
Now THIS is Rino-speak.

And RINO is the most mis-used and abused word on FR. By the definitions I keep seeing, no one including Reagan would be spared from this label. I repeat, if this is the case for "purity", then the Republican Party is doomed.

38 posted on 03/09/2010 4:50:36 PM PST by AmusedBystander (Just when I think Obama can't get any worse, he surprises me and does.)
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To: yongin
“I really don’t plan to,” Mr. Daniels said. “I really don’t much want to.”

No, but since he got a call from George W. a couple of weeks ago he now says he's leaving the door open after having said "definitely no" for a couple of years.

My guess is that Mitch is going to run and has a pretty fair chance of making it across the finish line.

39 posted on 03/09/2010 4:56:19 PM PST by what's up
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To: AmusedBystander

On his first days in office, he also attempted to raise taxes, only to be thwarted by the legislature. That doesn’t sound overly fiscally conservative to me.


40 posted on 03/09/2010 5:00:26 PM PST by Ingtar (Reckon the process will be silly - Reckonsilliation)
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To: AmusedBystander
I can only speak for myself since FR is by its nature a mixture of opinions.

To me, a Rino has always been a Republican who cannot or will not fight. We will always disagree with a pol on this or that, but if they refuse to battle the enemy, then what good are they?

Mitch Daniels knows the Dems are on the verge of victory with their 50 year obsession to steal our earnings and our private healthcare and he chooses this time to scold his side and the tea parties for their tone and philosophies?

Bad move, I am very disappointed.

41 posted on 03/09/2010 5:04:13 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: ecomcon
They should be using the swords to turn Berry, Barney, Harry and Nancy into popsicles. We are in a fight for our survival against communist lowlifes who don't fight by the rules. The republicans are in this weakened position because they didn't pick up the sword and defend their beliefs.
42 posted on 03/09/2010 5:31:23 PM PST by peeps36 (Democrats Don't Need No Stinking Input From You Little People)
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To: yongin

It appears I’m the only one who thinks he means within the party when he says “Lay down the philosophical swords” to begin rebuilding the party and tackle the nation’s immense challenges?

I don’t think that what we should do, but I think that’s what he meant.


43 posted on 03/09/2010 5:32:16 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: AmusedBystander
If Daniels is considered a RINO on FR...

It helps to understand that to the average denizen of FR, virtually everyone in the Republican Party is a so-called Republican in name only. It also helps to understand that anyone -- and I do literally mean anyone -- who doesn't think precisely like they do, talk precisely like they do and/or would, even breathe exactly as they do, is a "RINO" or worse.

44 posted on 03/09/2010 5:49:02 PM PST by Wolfstar (Note to rigid ideologues: Your own point of view in a mirror is quite a limited window on the world.)
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To: Wolfstar
It helps to understand that to the average denizen of FR, virtually everyone in the Republican Party is a so-called Republican in name only. It also helps to understand that anyone -- and I do literally mean anyone -- who doesn't think precisely like they do, talk precisely like they do and/or would, even breathe exactly as they do, is a "RINO" or worse

You can not know how grateful we are that you have continued to drag yourself to freerepublic, and to post to we inadequate mortals, for almost 11 years.

45 posted on 03/09/2010 6:10:43 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: ansel12

He spoke at my nephew’s funeral and was not squishy in any shape, manner or form.


46 posted on 03/09/2010 7:20:34 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: yongin

Mitch “Forest Gump” Daniels.


47 posted on 03/09/2010 7:47:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: DallasSun

The folks at Redstate are pushing Mitch Daniels. George Will thinks Mitch Daniels is the ideal candidate to take on Obama.

While My Man Mitch has a record of accomplishments, his flaws are that he is 5’7” tall, plus he’s bald and boring.


48 posted on 03/09/2010 7:49:00 PM PST by yongin
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To: pissant
"WTF is that?"

pissant, meet judasgoat.

49 posted on 03/09/2010 7:50:50 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: yongin

How about Charlie Daniels?


50 posted on 03/09/2010 7:50:50 PM PST by Perchant
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