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Palin and the General (Putting the McCain Endorsement in Perspective)
3/09/10 | Vanity

Posted on 03/09/2010 8:28:51 PM PST by Brices Crossroads

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To: PaleoBob
The opposition to Palin here at FR is mainly people who cling to the notion that either Fred Thompson or Duncan Hunter will get the 2012 nomination and win. God bless ‘em but what can you say to that?

A large group of Freepers are not living in the real world.

41 posted on 03/09/2010 9:02:57 PM PST by 08bil98z24 (The WOD is unconstitutional ------>>> NObama ... Anybody but him!)
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To: Brices Crossroads

I don’t much care that she endorsed McCain, he’s not the devil in my mind like, say Arlen Specter.

But then again, I’m not the purity police, while most of Palin’s supporters are.

I do think she is wrong, and I think the “loyalty” argument is weak. Strong leaders put loyalty in it’s proper place. Remember that one of Bush’s flaws was to be too loyal, to put that loyalty above doing what was best.

The biger problem for the Palin fans who argue “loyalty” is that Palin has never mention “loyalty” as the reason for her endorsement. Instead, she has said many positive things about McCain. She has argued, forcefully, that she truly believes McCain is the best candidate for the job.

Now, I guess you could argue that loyalty would cause someone to lie about another candidate. But then the problem isn’t whether Palin is “loyal”, but whether she is lying about her opinion of McCain.

I don’t think she is. I think she really believes that McCain is a good man, and would be good for the country. I think she really supported him in the election last year, and wouldn’t have accepted the VP slot if she didn’t.

I’ve listened to most of her book now, and everything she says about McCain makes it clear she admires him, trusts him, and thinks he is a good and honorable man who deserved to be president, and deserves to be re-elected as Senator.

And her supporters who insist she is lying out of loyalty do her a great disservice. I think some of her supporters treat her more condescendingly than her adversaries. For example, see the ones who insisted that she didn’t say her family went to Canada for treatment when she was a child, because “that would be stupid politically”.

Palin doesn’t speak politically, she speaks what is in her heart. If she says she supports McCain, it’s because she really supports McCain.


42 posted on 03/09/2010 9:02:58 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Brices Crossroads
Was the guy Patton slapped any relation to John Kerry?

Imagine if he'd had facebook back then and what entries he'd have made for the Germans to mull over?

The effect Sarah has on liberals is priceless. They know when they've seen a natural leader and they know how inept Obungler is and will continue to be until 2012- if he lasts that long.

Heck, he's about to go lame duck with a two-house majority when CommieCare fails (Waterloo). November will just seal the deal. Lesson number one: Never elect someone who's smooth talkin' without the walkin'.

After Clinton, it was "character matters". After Bush, "conservatism matters". After Obama it'll be, "experience matters". After Sarah, "How do you like them apples?"

43 posted on 03/09/2010 9:03:09 PM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

That’s an insult to loons.


44 posted on 03/09/2010 9:04:04 PM PST by Uncle Ivan (Alea iacta est)
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To: arthurus

What if he is not around in 2012?


45 posted on 03/09/2010 9:04:56 PM PST by TrumpisRight (Proud Moosehead....)
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To: presently no screen name
Please stop feeding this troll. If he knows the facts and still holds to this ridiculous line, he is either lost or an agitator.

We just make him feel important by acknowledging him.

46 posted on 03/09/2010 9:06:10 PM PST by snowtigger (It ain't what you shoot, it's what you hit...)
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To: Brices Crossroads

The only place a McCain endorsement does anyone harm is here on Free Republic as of late ...

McCain is kinda lame at times, but there are HUNDREDS of worst politicians to bash ...


47 posted on 03/09/2010 9:06:33 PM PST by 08bil98z24 (The WOD is unconstitutional ------>>> NObama ... Anybody but him!)
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To: rockinqsranch

-She is certainly one in a million.-

I say two million and counting.


48 posted on 03/09/2010 9:07:23 PM PST by TrumpisRight (Proud Moosehead....)
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To: 08bil98z24
You'd be surprised how many Freepers are closet Paulbots and hate Palin like poison. They keep bringing up the "quitter" meme in order to draw innocent Freepers into Mad Paul's web of White Supremacist Stormfront "The Jooooooooos Planned 9/11" madness.

Paultards: they must be fought at every turn. Like the ones on this thread.

More Joyous News: Crazy Uncle Paul had his Airport Moonies buy 800 tickets to the Southern Republican Leadership Conference so he can win the straw poll. Madness! Madness!

JOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!

Best,

Chris

49 posted on 03/09/2010 9:09:21 PM PST by section9
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To: Brices Crossroads; holdonnow

Your essay is very meaningful and spot on.

Mark, check out Brices’s gread read.


50 posted on 03/09/2010 9:10:15 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“And her supporters who insist she is lying out of loyalty do her a great disservice.”

I never said she was lying out of loyalty. I said her primary motivation was loyalty and the fact that she knows McCain personally as well as the fact that she endorsed him BEFORE Hayworth even announced.

It is a tempest in a teapot, as I assert in the post, as are so many of the canards slung at her, including going to Canada for health care when she was 5 years old!. Why do you even mention that garbage?


51 posted on 03/09/2010 9:10:31 PM PST by Brices Crossroads (Politico and)
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To: SoCalPol; onyx

Thanks to you both.


52 posted on 03/09/2010 9:11:28 PM PST by Brices Crossroads (Politico and)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

She couldn’t finish the job for some reason. I’m just saying.


53 posted on 03/09/2010 9:13:09 PM PST by donna (SarahPAC has donated money to...(wait for it)...Lindsey Graham!)
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To: section9

You don’t know how true your post is


54 posted on 03/09/2010 9:13:45 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: donna

Ahhh, yeah.


55 posted on 03/09/2010 9:15:46 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: section9; Brices Crossroads; Lakeshark; SoCalPol; NavyCanDo; RonDog; Sarabaracuda; Al B.; ...
You'd be surprised how many Freepers are closet Paulbots and hate Palin like poison. They keep bringing up the "quitter" meme in order to draw innocent Freepers into Mad Paul's web of White Supremacist Stormfront "The Jooooooooos Planned 9/11" madness.
Paultards: they must be fought at every turn. Like the ones on this thread.

Oh no, "I" and some of us, wouldn't be surprised at all, but a whole lot of others sure would!

56 posted on 03/09/2010 9:16:50 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: donna

The Ethos of Ethics

When the Governor announced her decision to resign on July 3, she pointed out the then 15 frivolous ethics complaints that had been filed against her and dismissed.

It was intended to explain, in part, her decision to resign as well to educate the public about the abuse of the Alaska Ethics Act through a repetitive stream of baseless partisan accusations, each one seemingly more pointless and frivolous than the next.

The Governor’s message was not intended as an invitation to run off half-cocked and file more baseless ethics complaints, but not everyone understood that message—or wanted to understand. In August 2009, largely in response to the abuse of Alaska’s Ethics Act by partisan shills and low level lackeys, the Attorney General issued an opinion recommending changes to the Ethics Act ”to prevent another potential harm—abuse of the process.

Some Alaskans have argued that the Ethics Act has been used inappropriately in some circumstances to politically damage the subject of the complaint.” (August 5, 2009 Attorney General Opinion). That argument was asserted by the Anchorage Daily News. “Our View: Abuse of Ethics Complaints Turns Good Law Into Bad Politics,” Anchorage Daily News, May 3, 2009. The Attorney General further recommended “another safeguard to discourage habitual complaint filers who use the Ethics Act process to harass executive branch employees.

Statutory amendments could provide authority to the personnel board to decline to process further complaints filed by a person who has abused the Act in this way.” Though it is encouraging to see an impartial evaluation of the problem, it is ultimately up to the Legislature to implement any of these recommended changes.

Governor Palin has been subjected to 24 ethics complaints, several lawsuits, and dozens and dozens of public information act requests, few of which raised even a scintilla of a good faith issue, and most of which were simply done to garner a headline or promote opposition research for political gain.

Recently we learned that two more ethics complaints against Governor Palin have been dismissed—complaints that were filed after the Governor announced her plans to step down. One complaint asserted that it was unethical for the state to follow its own per diem regulations and pay per diem to the Governor as set forth by law. Of course, the complainant conveniently overlooked that the Governor and her family received less per diem than they were entitled to under State law—why let such details stand in the way of an ethics complaint? The other complaint that was dismissed asserted that the Governor, through me, supposedly violated the constitution because we informed a person who falsely implied that the Governor was “under investigation” by the FBI, that such statements are defamatory.

It is notable to watch those who agitate on all things Palin—locally and even across the Atlantic—as they Huff and puff falsehoods about Sarah Palin under the guise of free speech, which brings us to a teachable moment. All too often we hear about constitutional rights—as we should—but many forget about constitutional responsibilities.

As citizens we have both rights and responsibilities. Though we have the right to exercise free speech, we have the responsibility to exercise that right without defaming people. I like the way our Alaska Constitution describes it: “Every person may freely speak, write, and publish on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of that right.

” Ak. Const. Art. I, Sec. 5. The irony of filing an ethics complaint because of a reminder about the constitutional parameters of free speech is no doubt lost on those consumed by irrationality when it comes to Sarah Palin; but one does not need an ethics law to know that positive political discourse depends on a robust debate about facts and the policy implications stemming from such facts.

The nation is not helped by calumnious ad hominem attacks against Sarah Palin, matrilineal conspiracy theories, and aberrant notions of ethics.

- Thomas Van Flein, Personal Attorney for Sarah Palin


57 posted on 03/09/2010 9:17:26 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: donna

Actually Gov. Palin did finish her job in 2 1/2 years. As Sarah stated she would have been a lame duck it was the idiots that gave her an early out.


58 posted on 03/09/2010 9:20:07 PM PST by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: :"You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: onyx

Its the Rubber Room Crowd.


59 posted on 03/09/2010 9:21:03 PM PST by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: :"You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: onyx

The Neo Leftist PaulBots call McCain a RINO

The PaulBots give another Kafka moment.


60 posted on 03/09/2010 9:23:50 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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