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Biden says Palestinians deserve 'viable' state
Yahoo News(AP) ^ | March 10, 2010 | Karen Laub

Posted on 03/10/2010 6:17:37 AM PST by Cheap_Hessian

RAMALLAH, West Bank – Vice President Joe Biden said Wednesday the Palestinians deserve a "viable" independent state with contiguous territory, seeking to reassure them of U.S. support after Israel announced plans to expand a Jewish neighborhood in disputed east Jerusalem.

The Israeli move has overshadowed Biden's visit, meant to promote a new round of U.S.-led negotiations, and drawn Palestinian accusations that Israel is not serious about peace. Israel apologized for embarrassing Biden with the timing of its announcement, but made clear it has no intention of reversing its plan.

Capping a day of meetings with Palestinian leaders, Biden told his hosts that the U.S. is committed to brokering a final peace deal — something that has eluded U.S. leaders for decades.

"The United States pledges to play an active as well as a sustainable role in these talks," Biden said. He stressed the Palestinians deserve an independent state that is "viable and contiguous," meaning the territory should not be broken up by Israeli settlement enclaves.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biden; israel; middleeast; westbank

1 posted on 03/10/2010 6:17:37 AM PST by Cheap_Hessian
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To: Cheap_Hessian

The dark side of the moon comes to mind as a good place to start.


2 posted on 03/10/2010 6:18:20 AM PST by sniper63 (Bang,Bang, Maxwell's Silver hammer........)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
He stressed the Palestinians deserve an independent state that is "viable and contiguous," meaning the territory should not be broken up by Israeli settlement enclaves.

America deserves a contiguous territory. But the damned Canadians have built all these settlements between Seattle and Juneau. It's not fair.

3 posted on 03/10/2010 6:20:24 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: sniper63

The Palestinian Arabs would deserve a viable state if ever they elected one, which they have not yet done.


4 posted on 03/10/2010 6:20:47 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Dear Mr. Biden, people deserve the state that they create. States are not gifts from the gods, but merely constructs of men. If the men are violent and envious, the results will be noticeably chaotic, if the men are non-violent, grateful, and forgiving, then the results will be nice. People create their own heaven or hell based on their behavior. I know this might be beyond your pay-grade, just sayin.


5 posted on 03/10/2010 6:22:59 AM PST by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Cheap_Hessian

>>>>Biden says Palestinians deserve ‘viable’ state<<<

They can have a “Palestinian” state or viable state, but a viable, “Palestinian” state is impossibe. Sort of like a dry liquid.


6 posted on 03/10/2010 6:23:25 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Cheap_Hessian

You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.


7 posted on 03/10/2010 6:23:45 AM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave.)
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To: sniper63

Give them Iran after the war...


8 posted on 03/10/2010 6:24:30 AM PST by refermech
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To: Haiku Guy
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink blow himself up.
9 posted on 03/10/2010 6:25:06 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: Cheap_Hessian

There are actually differences between barbarians and savages. For instances, there is no way in hell that Attila or Chengis Khan ever would have used Hun or Mongol women and kids as human shields. “Palestinians” are basically savages; they’d be lucky to work their way up the ladder to barbarism in four centuries starting from now.


10 posted on 03/10/2010 6:25:06 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: Cheap_Hessian

They have many to choose from:

Egypt
Jordan
Syria
Lebanon
Saudi Arabia
Iraq
On and on

There is no such thing as a Palestinian.


11 posted on 03/10/2010 6:25:24 AM PST by panzerkamphwageneinz (HALLELUJAH)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

The ONLY thing the damn Palestinians deserve is a swift kick in the butt and ejection from Israel’s borders.

The Palestians HAVE a state and its called Jordan. They should all go there.

BUT, they have a hidden agenda supported by all Islamdom and that is to eject the Jewish People from their rightful homeland and return it to an Islamic desolation.

And I’m damned sick and tired of those political strumpets in Washington sucking up to the Oil Sheiks for petrodollars when it comes to Israel and the way Muslims treat non-Muslims in Islamic society.


12 posted on 03/10/2010 6:25:54 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: sniper63

Seems like New Jersey and Michigan have been providing venues for the “viable state” nonsense.


13 posted on 03/10/2010 6:28:03 AM PST by pointsal ( try MagicJack if you have had enough of Verizon)
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To: ZULU

Kono, you are dead right. I couldn’t have said it better.


14 posted on 03/10/2010 6:35:27 AM PST by Piranha (Obama won like Bernie Madoff attracted investors: by lying about his values, policy and plans.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

“viable state”? The guy is from Delaware. LOL!


15 posted on 03/10/2010 6:45:39 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Since when does the world’s welfare queens deserve a state? What have they ever done to EARN anything other than steal and destroy?


16 posted on 03/10/2010 6:45:45 AM PST by BradtotheBone (Moderate Democrat - A politician whose voting record leans left and whose vote can be bought.)
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

Right, just like the Jews didn’t need their own state.

They could have lived in Europe, or the US, or Canada, or Australia, etc. etc.

Same logic, right?


17 posted on 03/10/2010 6:46:05 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

The Jordanians are PALESTINIANS!!

The Palestianians are JORDANIANS!!!!

Wake up. The ONLY thing “Palestinians” want is to kill the Isralis and take over Israel - the Jewish homeland.


18 posted on 03/10/2010 6:55:34 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

As long as the “state” is made up of “Palestinians” it cannot be viable.


19 posted on 03/10/2010 6:58:08 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
Biden says Palestinians deserve 'viable' state

I think Biden "deserves" a viable brain. Doesn't mean he's ever going to get one.

20 posted on 03/10/2010 6:58:36 AM PST by EternalVigilance (The Republican Party is to conservatism what Twinkies are to nutrition.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Right, just like the Jews didn’t need their own state.

They could have lived in Europe, or the US, or Canada, or Australia, etc. etc.

Same logic, right?

There was never, NEVER a palestinian state. It was Ottoman before the British, and so forth.

There was a Jewish State until 70 AD.

Subjectivity will not settle this. Objectivity will.

The Jews were attacked again and again. International law clearly states that any nation, once attacked, and defeats its enemy and takes land in the process, then said land becomes territory of the attacked.

The West Bank belongs to Israel according to international law.

You can talk all you want about the poor Palestinians who consistently embezzle every dollar meant for the people, but sorry, when you do your homework, you’ll see that where there are people called Jordanians, there have never been anyone called Palestinians.

PROOF: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?article_id=28222

Feel sorry all you want. Feelings won’t bring peace.


21 posted on 03/10/2010 7:04:01 AM PST by panzerkamphwageneinz (HALLELUJAH)
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To: pointsal

Paterson and Detroit?

Maybe the U.S. should establish diplomatic relations with these Islamic Enclaves.


22 posted on 03/10/2010 7:18:10 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

ALSO, see:

http://www.studytoanswer.net/islam_myths.html


23 posted on 03/10/2010 7:19:54 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Biden says Palestinians deserve ‘viable’ state


No they don’t. They’ve proven over and over again that they are incapable of living in peace with their neighbors.
They refuse to recognize Israel and they continue to teach their children to hate. There is absolutely no reason they should have a state of their own unti they reverse their culture of hate.


24 posted on 03/10/2010 7:22:07 AM PST by Joan Kerrey (The bigger the government = The smaller the people)
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To: sniper63
"The dark side of the moon comes to mind as a good place to start."

so that's why Obama is against moon exploration.
25 posted on 03/10/2010 7:23:42 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: Daveinyork

The Palestinian Arabs would deserve a viable state if ever they elected one, which they have not yet done.

I may be misinformed, but I thought Palestinians were nomads in the past and didn’t have a country. Maybe Saudi or some other sympathizing country could give them a piece of their country and leave little Israel alone.


26 posted on 03/10/2010 7:24:15 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: panzerkamphwageneinz

yeah but those other countries aren’t that stupid...


27 posted on 03/10/2010 7:25:54 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
“viable state”? The guy is from Delaware. LOL!

I'm in Delaware and I laughed, too!

Nobody messes with Joe--because there's nothing left to mess with.

28 posted on 03/10/2010 7:30:07 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: ZULU

Spot on there...magritte


29 posted on 03/10/2010 7:31:22 AM PST by magritte (There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Bitsy

Bedouins are a separate ethnic group. ‘Palestinians’ are overwhelmingly descended from Egyptians, Turks, Syrians, etc, who were lured to the Land of Israel when Jews began developing it about 150 years ago. There were small native Arab populations just as there were small native Jewish populations.


30 posted on 03/10/2010 7:41:35 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Cheap_Hessian
"viable and contiguous," meaning the territory should not be broken up by Israeli settlement enclaves

The writer knows that this is not the meaning of 'contiguous'. If another Arab state is 'contiguous', that means Israel will not be contiguous unless it gives up huge swaths of *pre-1967* territory.

31 posted on 03/10/2010 7:47:08 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Thanks for your informative response.


32 posted on 03/10/2010 7:59:08 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: Cheap_Hessian

A “viable” state? Well so do Kalifornians!


33 posted on 03/10/2010 8:33:20 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Americans also deserve a viable POTUS and Vice President.


34 posted on 03/10/2010 8:35:27 AM PST by dforest
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To: ZULU

Yes that is the solution... transport them to the east... perhaps you can help to seal the trailer/box-car doors.


35 posted on 03/10/2010 8:47:11 AM PST by Erastus CoupeDeVille
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To: canuck_conservative

The Myth of the Palestinian People:

http://israel-arab_conflict.tripod.com/Articles/mythofthepalestinianpeople.html


36 posted on 03/10/2010 8:55:32 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

They have viable states: Egypt and Jordan.


37 posted on 03/10/2010 8:57:40 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Erastus CoupeDeVille

How absurd.

That is the kind of politically correct idiotic statement one would expect from a liberal Democrat.

Politically correct thinking like that keeps a civilized society from the primary responsibility of any civilized society - its own preservation from a tribe of maniacs.


38 posted on 03/10/2010 9:01:32 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, Guts and Guns made America great.)
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To: jjotto

You can’t “give up” something that you don’t own


39 posted on 03/10/2010 9:29:33 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: sniper63

I always tghought Antarctica would be good. The cool temperatures might moderate their otherwise feral behavior..


40 posted on 03/10/2010 10:09:39 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Palestinians deserve a viable state. Great. Make it Delaware, Joe.

Or, better yet, make it D.C.


41 posted on 03/10/2010 10:29:37 AM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: canuck_conservative

Jeez. What’s with your hatred for Israel? It’s easy to see that the problems between US and Israel stems from the leftist scum we have in power, who have done nothing but piss off our two greatest allies - Israel and the UK.


42 posted on 03/10/2010 10:43:48 AM PST by ohioman
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Why do the Palestinians deserve a state and not the Chechens? The Tibetans? The Abkhazians? The Kurds? The Biafrans? What makes the Palestinians so special to you. Mr. Vice President?


43 posted on 03/10/2010 10:43:49 AM PST by anotherview (Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it - Adolf Hitler)
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Yes, Joe, that's nothing new. Israel offered one at Camp David, and at Annapolis. But the palestinians want that state to be really big, river to sea. Ask for a helicopter tour.

44 posted on 03/10/2010 5:18:16 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

To Biden - NO they DON’T!!!

and don’t try your Jedi tricks on me.


45 posted on 03/10/2010 8:09:29 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: canuck_conservative

Territory acquired by conquest has been recognized as ‘owned’ for 5,000 years.


46 posted on 03/11/2010 12:28:23 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

“If another Arab state is ‘contiguous’, that means Israel will not be contiguous unless it gives up huge swaths of *pre-1967* territory.”

LIKE ALL OF JERUSALEM.

Palis can have a “contiguous state” when the U.S. is “contiguous” with ALASKA.


47 posted on 03/11/2010 8:24:53 PM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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