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Runaway Prius driver: Brakes were 'almost burned' [But he wouldn't shift into neutral!]
Yahoo News ^ | 2010-03-10 | ELLIOT SPAGAT

Posted on 03/10/2010 6:36:28 AM PST by justlurking

Before he called 911, James Sikes says he reached down with his hand to loosen the "stuck" accelerator on his 2008 Toyota Prius, his other hand on the steering wheel. The pedal didn't move.

"My car can't slow down," he began when a California Highway Patrol dispatcher answered his call.

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During the two 911 calls, Sikes ignored many of the dispatcher's questions, saying later that he had to put his phone on the seat to keep his hands on the wheel.

Leighann Parks, a 24-year-old dispatcher, repeatedly told him to throw the car into neutral but got no answers.

"He was very emotional, you could tell on the line he was panicked," Parks told reporters outside the CHP's El Cajon office. "I could only imagine being in his shoes and being that stressed."

Neibert told Sikes after the CHP caught up with him to shift to neutral but the driver shook his head no. Sikes told reporters he didn't go into neutral because he worried the car would flip.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: jamessikes; prius; toyota; warontoyota
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I thought it was useful to post this, after all the discussion on previous threads about "why didn't he ....?"
1 posted on 03/10/2010 6:36:28 AM PST by justlurking
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To: justlurking

dumb masses!


2 posted on 03/10/2010 6:37:47 AM PST by stuckinloozeeana
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To: justlurking
Sikes told reporters he didn't go into neutral because he worried the car would flip.

Head shaky

3 posted on 03/10/2010 6:37:56 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: justlurking

...why throw ‘er into neutral when there’s a law suit/settlement in the offing?....by calling 911 he documented his emotional distress.


4 posted on 03/10/2010 6:38:51 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: justlurking

Some people are just so stupid they shouldn’t be given driver’s licenses. Thought the car would flip????


5 posted on 03/10/2010 6:39:06 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: al baby

“I’m a liberal and therefore smarter than the CHP or 911 dispatcher”.


6 posted on 03/10/2010 6:39:30 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: justlurking

Another American in search of his own “Obama Stash”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19v5Kjmc8FI&feature=player_embedded#


7 posted on 03/10/2010 6:39:34 AM PST by bvw
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To: justlurking

I had some serious questions about this entire episode. I don’t understand why anyone would pick up a cell phone and make any type of call, even to 911, if you’re stuck at 80 / 90 mph.


8 posted on 03/10/2010 6:39:49 AM PST by twigs
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To: al baby

This whole thing stinks like week-old fish.


9 posted on 03/10/2010 6:40:01 AM PST by dogcaller
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To: justlurking

“Sikes told reporters he didn’t go into neutral because he worried the car would flip.”

Oh good God. They didn’t say throw it into park (even that wouldn’t have made it flip, it would have popped it into nuetral anyway). Intellegence of Prius drivers on display.


10 posted on 03/10/2010 6:40:11 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: justlurking

This story doesn’t pass the smell test to me.


11 posted on 03/10/2010 6:40:14 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: justlurking

Mighty suspicious. This is a narrow window of opportunity to get a new car and an income from a settlement. Remember, all people lie. All people are devious and jump at the chance for the “quick kill” so they don’t ever have to work again.


12 posted on 03/10/2010 6:40:25 AM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: justlurking
The officer said he told Sikes to push the brake pedal to the floor and apply the emergency brakes as the Prius neared 85 mph. The car slowed to about 55 mph, at which time Sikes says he turned off the ignition and the car came to a stop.

That would be my first inclination. Popping into neutral would cause the engine to over RPM, and potentially destroy the engine - turning the ignition off simply shuts the engine down ... something that is inherently obvious to me.

Now, did this person also stack a couple floormats on top of each other, such that the floormat entraps the pedal when it's pushed down?

13 posted on 03/10/2010 6:41:11 AM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: justlurking
" Sikes told reporters he didn't go into neutral because he worried the car would flip. "

What a dumbass. This, along with the first thing he did after the incident being (apparently) to run out in front of the Toyota dealership to have his picture taken makes me suspect that the guy just cranked up his cruise control and called the cops so he could make the news.

14 posted on 03/10/2010 6:41:56 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: justlurking

The government/media’s treatment of these cases is turning into “pile on Toyota”. I think Smugboy is trolling for a fat lawsuit.


15 posted on 03/10/2010 6:42:18 AM PST by AngryJawa (Obama's Success is America's Failure)
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To: justlurking

We are all creatures of habit, and most of us have no habit of shifting into neutral, just using the brakes and accelerator. Hindsight is 20-20.


16 posted on 03/10/2010 6:42:45 AM PST by devere
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To: justlurking

It is troubling that so many drivers are so clueless and inexperienced.

When I was about 20, I had a car where the throttle stuck. I didn’t miss a beat, threw it into neutral, came to a stop and shut the engine off. I then, drove the car with the throttle still stuck, about 3 miles to my mechanic to get it fixed.


17 posted on 03/10/2010 6:43:07 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: justlurking
"Sikes told reporters he didn't go into neutral because he worried the car would flip."

I can understand concern for turning the key off because of the power steering issue, however, worrying because the car might "flip" from putting it in neutral seems odd. Now, the engine might blow from the RPMs but can't really get a grip on the flipping concern.
18 posted on 03/10/2010 6:43:16 AM PST by mentor2k
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To: twigs
I don’t understand why anyone would pick up a cell phone and make any type of call, even to 911, if you’re stuck at 80 / 90 mph.

Creation of "evidence" for the upcoming litigation.

19 posted on 03/10/2010 6:43:26 AM PST by AngryJawa (Obama's Success is America's Failure)
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To: justlurking
He didn't go into neutral because it wouldn't help his lawsuit against Toyota. IMHO the whole thing was fake
20 posted on 03/10/2010 6:43:35 AM PST by MSgt Smith (unexpectedly in Thailand)
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To: twigs
"if you’re stuck at 80 / 90 mph. "

Will a Prius even DO 80/90 mph?
21 posted on 03/10/2010 6:43:37 AM PST by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: USCG SimTech
"all people lie. All people are devious"

Speak for yourself.....

22 posted on 03/10/2010 6:44:22 AM PST by sniper63 (Bang,Bang, Maxwell's Silver hammer........)
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To: twigs

ISN’T IT ILLEGAL TO USE A CELL PHONE WHILE DRIVING IN CALIFORNIA?...................


23 posted on 03/10/2010 6:44:59 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: justlurking
Prius advertisement: "Toyoto Prius Hybrid - Harmony between Man, Nature and Machine".

Oh, retch.

This driver had to be an idiot liberal to begin with.

Leni

24 posted on 03/10/2010 6:45:02 AM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: FrankR
Will a Prius even DO 80/90 mph?

Only the ones with the special secret software programming in the computer controls, apparently..............

25 posted on 03/10/2010 6:45:56 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: justlurking

All people don’t lie, LIBERALS lie. I think this story stinks! He’s either stupid, a liar, or both. Oh wait, I did say he was a liberal so I’m repeating myself.


26 posted on 03/10/2010 6:46:25 AM PST by politicalmerc (Statistics don't lie but liars sure use statistics!)
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To: Hodar
That would be my first inclination. Popping into neutral would cause the engine to over RPM, and potentially destroy the engine - turning the ignition off simply shuts the engine down ... something that is inherently obvious to me.

Modern engines have governors that limit the RPM. The engine will make a big racket, but it won't go over the red-line.

However, given a choice between a crash at 90 mph and destroying the engine... I'll always take the latter.

Earlier, I was asking why he waited until the car slowed to 55 to turn off the ignition. The dispatcher makes it very clear: the driver was paniced.

27 posted on 03/10/2010 6:46:46 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: justlurking

This is what happens when an entire car (or country) is run with a central processor. It’s hard to put on the brakes or shift into neutral when the thing gets out of control.


28 posted on 03/10/2010 6:46:50 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (Anyone can fib. It takes an intellectual to tell a really big lie.)
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To: Hodar

You have to put it in neutral and slow down or better yet stop before you shut off the engine.

If you shut off the ignition, the steering wheel will lock when you turn it and it will be a LOT harder to stop without power to the brakes.

Your life is in danger at this point. Blowing the engine should be the least of your worries. If you still have your wits about you and it starts to rev too high, put it in the highest gear you’ve got. 5th or 6th in a manual or 3rd in an automatic.


29 posted on 03/10/2010 6:47:18 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: justlurking

‘I thought it was useful to post this, after all the discussion on previous threads about “why didn’t he ....?”’

And apparently the answer is that he is a moron, who probably shouldn’t be allowed to drive anything larger or more powerful than a shopping cart, or maybe a scooter.


30 posted on 03/10/2010 6:47:46 AM PST by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: autumnraine

Intellegence of Prius drivers on display.

31 posted on 03/10/2010 6:47:55 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: devere
We are all creatures of habit, and most of us have no habit of shifting into neutral, just using the brakes and accelerator. Hindsight is 20-20.

If you can't think beyond using the brakes and accelerator, you shouldn't be driving a car on public roads.

32 posted on 03/10/2010 6:48:06 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: FrankR
Will a Prius even DO 80/90 mph?

Hah, the scariest place on an interstate in Silicon Valley is in front of a Prius when you're going "only" 10 MPH over the speed limit.

33 posted on 03/10/2010 6:48:15 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: justlurking

The man doesn’t know much about cars. On the freeway I was almost pushed off the road by some guy who wasn’t paying any attention to what he was doing. I slammed on my breaks to keep from getting hit, only to have the engine die on me. I shifted into neutral while still moving, started the car and kept going.


34 posted on 03/10/2010 6:48:43 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

This story doesn’t pass the smell test to me.

Does this?..........

35 posted on 03/10/2010 6:49:02 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: justlurking

If I were king I would ban automatic transmissions and many of the “safety” features on cars. A self preservation instinct goes a long way.


36 posted on 03/10/2010 6:49:08 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin!)
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To: justlurking

He was trying to talk on the cell phone and “control the car”. He didn’t have time to shift or slow down.


37 posted on 03/10/2010 6:49:16 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

This story doesn’t pass the smell test to me.

Does this?..........

38 posted on 03/10/2010 6:49:16 AM PST by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: justlurking
Car flipping. Happens all the time in racing.


39 posted on 03/10/2010 6:49:19 AM PST by McGruff (Don't criticize. Explain to me who I should support other than Sarah Palin.)
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To: Hodar
Popping into neutral would cause the engine to over RPM, and potentially destroy the engine - turning the ignition off simply shuts the engine down ... something that is inherently obvious to me.

All of these new computer controlled cars have rev limiters to prevent the over revving of the engine. He'd have been better off to keep power (for brakes, steering, etc.) and just slam it into neutral.

40 posted on 03/10/2010 6:49:50 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Hodar

“.. turning the ignition off simply shuts the engine down ... something that is inherently obvious to me.”

Gotta be careful with that though. One notch too far and the steering wheel is locked.

If I was worried about my safety, I’d sacrifice the engine.


41 posted on 03/10/2010 6:49:57 AM PST by Pessimist (u)
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To: justlurking

How in the name of all that’s holy would a car flip if you put it into neutral??

Good grief...


42 posted on 03/10/2010 6:50:12 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Our politicians are stupid and our policies unsustainable)
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To: Red Badger

911 ok.


43 posted on 03/10/2010 6:50:32 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: mentor2k
I can understand concern for turning the key off because of the power steering issue, however, worrying because the car might "flip" from putting it in neutral seems odd.

Turning off the ignition doesn't disable your steering. It just requires more effort to turn the wheel.

Now, the engine might blow from the RPMs but can't really get a grip on the flipping concern.

Modern engines have a governor that limits the RPM. But, that's a bogus concern when the alternative is a collision at 50+ mph.

44 posted on 03/10/2010 6:50:45 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: justlurking

From the start there has been something fishy about this campaign against Toyota. It sounds like something designed to restore GM after its clunker-humiliation. I would like to see some information about any connections of the drivers with the union or political friends of GM.


45 posted on 03/10/2010 6:50:55 AM PST by Marylander
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To: STONEWALLS

exactly....I have think the MSM and the gov’t are GUILTY of malpractice for not putting out public service announcements stating that if your car starts accelerating uncontrollably, put the DAMN THING IN NEUTRAL! How stupid can people be to not know this? Something smells to high heaven here. The NTSB and Congress are asking the CEO of Toyota to commit hari kari on live tv in congressional hearings, yet noone in the gov’t has enough sense to think maybe we should try and EDUCATE the public on what to do in case of a stuck accelerator.

This has become more about destroying Toyota than keeping the public safe. If this guy had crashed into another car and killed someone else, I would be all for charging HIM with involuntary manslaughter. Once he was TOLD to put the car in neutral and didn’t, he was liable for anything that hppened after.


46 posted on 03/10/2010 6:51:04 AM PST by milwguy
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To: Hodar

“Popping into neutral would cause the engine to over RPM, and potentially destroy the engine - turning the ignition off simply shuts the engine down ... something that is inherently obvious to me.”

If you’re supposedly in fear for you life because your car is out of control, why would you be concerned about hurting the engine? In any case, all modern cars have, at the very least, rev limiters which will prevent the engine from over-revving.


47 posted on 03/10/2010 6:51:27 AM PST by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

He heard it somewhere, many don’t figure out things or think for themselves, just go on heresay and bad advice.


48 posted on 03/10/2010 6:51:53 AM PST by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: autumnraine
Actually...a car full of teenagers did just that when I was in high school. Some died, I think that one ended up a quadriplegic. The car was packed, they were goofing around and someone knocked it into park over and it flipped.
49 posted on 03/10/2010 6:52:01 AM PST by Spudx7
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To: TheMom
Sikes told reporters he didn't go into neutral because he worried the car would flip.

That explains a lot!

50 posted on 03/10/2010 6:52:04 AM PST by Eaker (Where I'm from, "Gang Colors" is Realtree and Mossy Oak. You know what I'm saying hoss. Rule.308.)
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