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The question that dogs Dems: What if Obama fails?
WashingtonExaminer.com ^ | March 10, 2010 | Julie Mason

Posted on 03/10/2010 12:31:46 PM PST by Scanian

President Obama's strategy for closing on health care relies on blaming the insurance industry, reminding Americans that coverage is a problem and urging public opinion to shift momentum in Congress.

Not part of the equation: What if he loses?

"No Democrat wants to contemplate it and certainly no one in the administration, because the consequences are too frightful," said Stephen Hess, a presidential scholar at the Brookings Institution.

The White House this week is stepping up pressure on congressional Democrats in a final drive to get reform on the books. In two rallies this week, Obama is hoping to turn public opinion back his way.

Last week's largely foregone conclusion about the Democrats using a parliamentary maneuver to pass reform with simple majorities is looking increasingly difficult.

"This one he has to win," said Hess, who added he believes Obama will prevail. "He has backed himself into that position."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhofascism; congress; deomocrats; healthcare; liberalagenda; obama; obamacare

1 posted on 03/10/2010 12:31:46 PM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian
If he fails? He is failing!
2 posted on 03/10/2010 12:33:53 PM PST by cranked
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To: Scanian
He already is a failure...well, except for pushing Carter out of the worst president in history thing, he wins there.
3 posted on 03/10/2010 12:34:01 PM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: Scanian

What do you mean what if?

It is a given. His shooting star is now on downward trajectory, just a matter of time.


4 posted on 03/10/2010 12:34:08 PM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Scanian
"He has backed himself into that position."

That's the problem. He's an idiot and has put himself and his party in a no-win situation.

5 posted on 03/10/2010 12:34:20 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Scanian

If Obama wins, America loses. I pray for his failure every day.


6 posted on 03/10/2010 12:34:26 PM PST by Argus
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To: Scanian

If it fails, the monster behind the mask is going to tear off the mask and get mean and vindictive as the devil he is.


7 posted on 03/10/2010 12:34:43 PM PST by unkus
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To: Scanian

Bigger question is why are the Democrats following a hard core communists insane child like nitwit. Are they blind or just the same nitwits.


8 posted on 03/10/2010 12:34:49 PM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Scanian
Along about then, prominent Democrats begin to wonder aloud if he was really born in Hawaii....
9 posted on 03/10/2010 12:35:09 PM PST by Grut
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To: Scanian

Limbaugh is a bright guy.


10 posted on 03/10/2010 12:36:02 PM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Scanian

Funny, I’ve never held the insurance companies responsible
for my health care. The whole class/corporate warfare thing
doesn’t play for me.


11 posted on 03/10/2010 12:36:26 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Scanian

Then the Republic wins.
We can only hope and pray.


12 posted on 03/10/2010 12:37:28 PM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Scanian

This President can’t win if the people stand up against him. If he gets what he wants and his policy fails, it is the people that will loose. It will have no effect on him personally but could ruin every family in the country.


13 posted on 03/10/2010 12:37:38 PM PST by RC2
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To: Scanian
Everything changed for Clinton after HillaryCare failed.
Everything will change for Obama after ObamaCare fails.

15 years from now, they will try again. The Left always thinks that their plans will work "this time".

14 posted on 03/10/2010 12:37:56 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: Vision

Obama fails=America wins!


15 posted on 03/10/2010 12:38:05 PM PST by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messiah. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: Scanian

Obama = Fail

Democrats just don’t realize it yet. I have to admit I will ENJOY the despair they will experience when they DO get it!


16 posted on 03/10/2010 12:38:57 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Scanian
Cornered animals frequently become unpredictable and violent.

I don't want to see what this power-hungry Marxist will try to pull if he thinks he's gonna lose.

17 posted on 03/10/2010 12:38:59 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: colorado tanker

Actually, if he gets it passed it’s a win-win situation
for the hard core liberals. The nation is further engulfed
in socialism, AND the democrat party is purged of DINO
and old school democrats so radical and more fervent cadres
can then move in.

A lose-lose for the American people and way of life.


18 posted on 03/10/2010 12:39:21 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Scanian
The question that dogs Dems: What if Obama fails?

No “if” about it.
0bama loses either way. The Democrats are in a no win situation.

19 posted on 03/10/2010 12:39:37 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Scanian

“In two rallies this week, Obama is hoping to turn public opinion back his way.”

Americans are done with the “rallies.” This isn’t Nazi Germany where Albert Speer can shine some spotlights for Der Fuhrer. More and more Americans are waking up for their stupor. The rallies aren’t swaying anyone in his favor. It is probably working the opposite.


20 posted on 03/10/2010 12:40:09 PM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: Marty62
Fails in what? Destroying the country by socializing it?
He showed enough of destructive “changes” that he deserves immediate impeachment!!!
No need to experiment with his “hope and change”, isn't failed Union of Soviet Socialist Republics proof enough???
Time to march on DC, block it, paralyze it until whole RAT nest resigns and place is fumigated once for all!!!
21 posted on 03/10/2010 12:41:20 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: Grut

And they may even wonder who financed his education and his ongoing deception as president.


22 posted on 03/10/2010 12:41:20 PM PST by sarasota
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To: Scanian

He’s already failed.

They’re just waking up to that fact.


23 posted on 03/10/2010 12:41:26 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Scanian
I am guessing that a number of Dems in Washington will be thrilled to see Obama, Inc. leave town.
All politics is nasty; but his crew have brought a whole new nasty to town and I bet a lot of his own party would love to see them gone.
24 posted on 03/10/2010 12:41:31 PM PST by madinmadtown
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To: tet68
Actually, if he gets it passed it’s a win-win situation
for the hard core liberals

And a lose, lose situation for the Democratic Party in November, and for 0bama in 2012.

25 posted on 03/10/2010 12:42:02 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Scanian
Even so, Tuman said, a loss would force Obama to start governing from the center and forge coalitions with independent Democrats and moderate Republicans.

Obama will never try to govern from the center.

1. He hates the center, the middle class, the real taxpayers.

2. Obama does not believe in governing - he views himself as a ruler and rulers don't govern they dictate.

He will spend the rest of his term trying to overrule Congress and the Supreme Court.

26 posted on 03/10/2010 12:42:36 PM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: Scanian

FAILURE for Obomba is a SUCCESS in his book!


27 posted on 03/10/2010 12:43:13 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tagline, oh, tagline, whereart thou tagline....)
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To: tet68
Funny, I’ve never held the insurance companies responsible for my health care.

I forget where I saw it, but Medicare is statistically the worst for denial of requested care - worse than any of the insurance companies. I remember trying to get physical therapy approved in Texas. Even if we worded the treatment plan exactly right, it was still a 50:50 crap shoot whether or not they'd approve it. They usually did approve when we sent back another request with even stronger reasons for approval, but I really think they did it in hopes we'd get discouraged and not appeal their decision.

28 posted on 03/10/2010 12:43:40 PM PST by BuckyKat
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To: Scanian

TOLL-FREE PHONE CALLING

1-800-828-0498

1-866-220-0044

These toll free arrangements were set up by Obamuniust organizations to support (pause for sticking out tongue) “health” “care” “reform.” Use them! After all, they are free! . At the first number you must wait through a brief Obamunist tape recording. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aide or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.

When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office

1-800-828-0498
1-866-220-0044

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29 posted on 03/10/2010 12:44:32 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: CharacterCounts
I think that's right. I disliked Clinton very, very much -- but he ultimately understood that he had to "triangulate" and move to the center, no matter how much it galled him.

Obama isn't like that. He doesn't triangulate. He cannot move to the center. It would be beneath him.

30 posted on 03/10/2010 12:45:22 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: Logical me

When Obama goes down - it will be at the hand of the Democrats, not the Republicans.


31 posted on 03/10/2010 12:45:40 PM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: SmokingJoe

a lose, lose situation for the Democratic Party in November, and for 0bama in 2012.

Obama is not the endgame, but another sapper
undermining American society, there WILL be others,
and probably much more distructive one as old school
dims are replaced by more radical types.


32 posted on 03/10/2010 12:51:32 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: CharacterCounts

Yeah...but, they’ll BLAME it on the GOP!


33 posted on 03/10/2010 12:52:17 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tagline, oh, tagline, whereart thou tagline....)
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To: Marty62

“His shooting star is now on downward trajectory, just a matter of time.”

This is too passive an analogy. A more accurate framing is that Obama has now driven off the cliff in a bus with Reid, Pelosi and a large number of Dems who will be severely punished at the polls next fall if they vote for Obamacare.
It won’t hit ground until all the attempted end-arounds in Congress have failed, but when it does, there’s going to be a lot of finger-pointing about who put such an insane driver behind the wheel. Retrospective regrets is way too mild to describe how Dems will be feeling at that juncture.


34 posted on 03/10/2010 12:54:23 PM PST by DrC
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To: Scanian

And what do these dumbells think will happen IF Obamacare passes and the next day all these people show up for free health care?

The stupid people (i.e. democraps) don’t realize it does not get implemented for 4 years- but WE START PAYING TAXES FOR IT NOW!!


35 posted on 03/10/2010 12:58:41 PM PST by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: tet68
there WILL be others,
and probably much more distructive one as old school
dims are replaced by more radical types

Saw that happen when I was living in the UK, when the loony left and the unions took over the Labour Party.
The Result? The Conservative Party ruled for close to 20 years. The Labour Party only managed to get in again, after moderates like John Smith(who suffered a sudden heart attack and died, leading to Tony Bliar taking over), took over the Labour Party from the left wing crazies.
The Democrats current domination by the loony left is only doing to lead to electoral Armageddon for them.

36 posted on 03/10/2010 1:01:56 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: highlander_UW

That was my tagline for several months in 2008 -

(Obama: Carter’s only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)

I’m not happy I’m being proven correct.


37 posted on 03/10/2010 1:05:08 PM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: cranked
Here's O'Bunga's peculiar conundrum, and it's one crafted entirely by his utterly disconnected 1600 Penn Ave Cabal:

If he loses on Health Care, it's a cataclysmic defeat given that he has made this his signature issue with a half-dozen famously failed prezzidential "deadline" edicts. He has spent the last year almost exclusively on getting this done. Not. Imagine three years of "lame duck" flapping and wheezing by a man whose own gross inexperience, inability to listen, nonexistent leadership skills, and horrific choices took him from the peak of worldwide adulation to the depths of National derision in one failed bid.

If he "wins" on Health Care, it's a catastrophic catalyst for more public wrath and venom than he believes possible; he loses worse than if Health Care fails. He goes from "lame duck" to "America's Most Loathed," with over 50% of his public just counting the days until we can fumigate the White House of the stench of his fetid odiousness.

Between Barack and a Hard Place will be the title of my next Vanity on this scintillating topic, and it will be an evocative, heartwarming read for all Freepers. Great family entertainment!

:-)

38 posted on 03/10/2010 1:05:55 PM PST by Gargantua (DON'T TREAD ON US.)
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To: Scanian

it means Rush Limbaugh will get his wish...which will surely make all Liberal heads explode...which is why they are doubling and tripling down on everything


39 posted on 03/10/2010 1:06:55 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: unkus

Remember, we have the guns...


40 posted on 03/10/2010 1:11:34 PM PST by OriginalChristian (Sarah Palin, The Arctic Fox...)
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To: OriginalChristian

and nearly all the bullets too.


41 posted on 03/10/2010 1:18:50 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: cranked

Where have they been? He failed the moment he was sworn in. Remember Roberts had to do it again. Probably a first. After that its been all down hill. Socialism equals failure. Socialism is absolute failure that fails absolutely. You can argue about the Bamster’s particular strain of socialism, communism or syndicalism, it doesn’t really matter. All that matters is that he is committed to failure.


42 posted on 03/10/2010 1:49:04 PM PST by appeal2 (Government is not the solution, it is the problem and eventually the enemy.)
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To: Scanian
What if he loses?

"No Democrat wants to contemplate it and certainly no one in the administration, because the consequences are too frightful," said Stephen Hess, a presidential scholar at the Brookings Institution.

Too frightful? Oooooo scary! What a stupid POS Stephen Hess is. Hey you wimpy ass liberal, maybe if 0bozo loses & gets smacked down really hard, the country on the hand WINS. What a stupid POS -- 0bozo & partisan shilling hacks Hess.

I hope 0bozo fails miserably! I hope his phat ass wife maBelle michelle fails miserably including her anti-obesity stint. I hope her ass swells up to gargantuam widths. I hope that everyone & anything about 0bozo fails!!!

43 posted on 03/10/2010 2:00:25 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: Logical me
Are they (demoRATs) blind or just the same nitwits?

Yes & Yes!!!

44 posted on 03/10/2010 2:01:54 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: TChris
Cornered animals frequently become unpredictable and violent.

I don't want to see what this power-hungry Marxist will try to pull if he thinks he's gonna lose.

I do! Lets' roll! Gitter done!

45 posted on 03/10/2010 2:04:31 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: unkus
If it fails, the monster behind the mask is going to tear off the mask and get mean and vindictive as the devil he is.

This is precisely what Iv'e been saying. The monsters in and behind the White House (and they ARE monsters, as evidenced by the pedigree oftheir ideas) have absolutely NO intention of relinquishing power. Ever. Few of us have the courage to contemplate what that portends for all of us. And almost no one seems to be willing to acknowledge the destination that lies at the end of the road they're takeing us.

Monsters. All of them.

46 posted on 03/10/2010 2:20:07 PM PST by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon

I’ve comptemplated it and I stand ready.


47 posted on 03/10/2010 5:23:14 PM PST by cowboyusa
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To: FreedomPoster
I’m not happy I’m being proven correct.

It's no fun being a pessimist when you're right all the time.

48 posted on 03/10/2010 7:33:30 PM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: Scanian

John Kyl on Greta’s show just introduced a letter written for “Dingy” Harry that explains reconciliation will have a fight. All 41 pubbies signed it.


49 posted on 03/10/2010 7:41:25 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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