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The Public Opposes Obamacare Because... ^ | March 11, 2010 | Ross Mackenzie

Posted on 03/11/2010 5:24:20 AM PST by Kaslin

Why the mounting public opposition to ObamaCare?


-- Adoption of ObamaCare would make Americans more reliant on the federal government, not less.

-- Growing percentages of the public oppose it, as indicated in poll after poll -- just as the public opposes "reconciliation," the Democrats' chosen method of forcing it down the public's throat.

--According to pollsters Scott Rasmussen and Doug Schoen, polls this week show that 57 percent of voters believe passage of ObamaCare would hurt the economy (25 percent believe it would help), and just 17 percent believe it would cut health care costs. Note the pollsters: Most voters believe the current plan will harm the economy, cost more than projected, raise the cost of care, and lead to higher middle-class taxes.

-- ObamaCare's prototypes in for instance England, Canada, and Massachusetts demonstrate that it would drive up medical costs, drive down quality of care, drive doctors out of medicine -- and discourage prospective doctors from entering the profession. No example of government-overseen medicine -- anywhere, ever -- has proved the equal of (let alone superior to) the system we have.

-- In determining who would receive what coverages, medicines, and procedures, ObamaCare would ration medical care.

-- It would tell doctors how to practice, impose price controls, and set hospital rates.

-- Regarding hospital rate-setting alone, of the 30 states that capped hospital rates in the 1970s and 1980s, all except Maryland discarded them because of their failure to control costs. In 2006, Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney pushed through a government medical plan as a way to rein in spending. Massachusetts now boasts the nation's highest medical costs -- a key to the election of Scott Brown to the Senate seat long held by Teddy Kennedy.

-- At almost precisely the moment President Obama says (as he did during his seven-hour "summit") that the key issue is "figuring out how can we control the huge expansion of entitlements," ObamaCare would create yet another entitlement affecting 17 percent of the nation's economy.


-- It would be lunacy to enact any program, such as ObamaCare, that would come to us courtesy of the same federally sanctioned sorts of discourteous incompetents, enforcers, and unsmiling satraps at Amtrak, the Postal Service, and the IRS.

-- It is equally ridiculous even to think that the regulators and bureaucrats unable to contain the costs of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security could somehow miraculously contain the costs of ObamaCare.

-- Likely running to, oh, several trillions of dollars over the next decade alone, it would amount to fiscal incontinence.

-- Contrary to the babblings of D.C.'s leftist leadership (e.g., Sen. Christopher Dodd, an ends-justifies-the-means kind of guy: "the issue trumps the process"), the costs of doing nothing likely would not be higher than the costs deriving from legislation contrived in back rooms, passed in abuse of standard rules and practices, and even murkily understandable in all its facts and implications only after its adoption.

-- At no time in the past has Congress enacted major social change rivaling ObamaCare without significant bipartisan buy-in. ObamaCare is unlikely to win a single Republican vote in either congressional chamber. (It has received just one so far, from a New Orleans Congressman, and he has changed his mind.)

-- Given that no Founding document (a) cites health care as an entitlement or (b) stipulates health insurance as a necessity, compelling every taxpayer to purchase health care coverage probably is -- no, clearly is -- unconstitutional.

AND because....

-- While taxes for ObamaCare would begin this year, benefits would not start kicking in until 2014.

-- In states mandating coverage of pre-existing health conditions, as ObamaCare would, premiums often have so much as tripled.

-- Legislation extending coverage to 31 million additional Americans in a system with fewer doctors would mean -- absolutely -- longer lines and lower-quality care.

-- How beneficial would ObamaCare be if the president of the United States has to demonize insurance companies and their agents to sell it -- just as he has made "banker" and "Bush" and "Republican" pejorative words?

-- Indeed, how beneficial could such a plan possibly be for us mere plebians if the patricians in the federal political class exempt themselves from it by arrogantly insisting on their continued participation in the vastly superior Federal Employee Health Benefits Plan?

-- ObamaCare, as currently patched together, is but a stop on the track to full socialized medicine (the "public option") that President Obama has pledged his fellow progressives he will work diligently to achieve.


So as the president bellows, "All aboard!", no wonder ever larger percentages of the public scramble to get off the train. They see Obama as British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli saw a 19th Century contemporary -- "a sophisticated rhetorician, inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity."

Obama and his progressive Democrats may view many in the public the way FDR adviser Harry Hopkins did ("too damned dumb to understand"). But growing numbers know full well the Beltway Democrats propose to take them for a long and fateful -- fatal? -- ride.

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1 posted on 03/11/2010 5:24:20 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin


2 posted on 03/11/2010 5:29:01 AM PST by mentor2k
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To: Kaslin
Fox news showed the Democratic talking points that they're supposed to use to defend this. It counters most of what's in this article.

Obamacare is going to be cheaper, more efficient, fairer, allow more options, save fuzzy bunnies, clean the air, reverse global warming, prevent martians from attacking, get congressman reelected, make Nancy Pelosi attractive, make cats and dogs get along, restore unicorn breeding grounds, make all Americans rich and good looking, and promote world peace. Anyone who is against Obamacare is against all that is good in America.

3 posted on 03/11/2010 5:31:45 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: Kaslin


MOST of us HAVE ‘healthcare’ that suits us JUST fine.

HALF of us UNDERSTAND that this has NOTHING to do with healthcare - rather, it’s just a major power-grab by Socialists in their quest to overtake the American system.

Those with ANY common sense know by now that NOBODY even knows exactly what’s in the stupid bill. Even if it WAS on the up and up, it’s the same as writing our government a blank check.
-Oh yeah... guess who has to pay the bill...

4 posted on 03/11/2010 5:32:57 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: Kaslin


The Public Opposes Obamacare Because... our fearless leader, who is morally, intellectually, spiritually and physically superior to us in every way, has simply not yet had the time to explain to us how GREAT it is, using short, simple words that we can all understand.

Once we UNDERSTAND how great he... I mean IT, is, we’ll support it...


5 posted on 03/11/2010 5:37:15 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: joethedrummer
because.... It will not start until 2014 and most of the sick people now will have died by then!The real kicker is they get to pay for it for three years or more. Tell that to a demoncrat.
6 posted on 03/11/2010 6:03:45 AM PST by cameraeye (A happy kafar!)
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To: Kaslin

There’s another issue that has me riled right now. When was the last time anyone heard a democrat mention anything about the Skittles-Crapping Unicorns we were promised?

I distinctly remember being lectured about how horrible everything was under GWB, but that if we could ONLY have Barack Obama as our president everything would be fine and lovely, kum-ba-ya would be sung every night around an environmentally friendly camp-fire; AND, everyone in America would receive a magic unicorn that eats toxic waste and craps Skittles.

Now, I really don’t care one way or another about the nightly renditions of kum-ba-ya or the environmentally friendly campfires; in fact, I can easily live without them. The magic unicorns, though, are another matter entirely. My family and I were REALLY looking forward to having our property cleaned up and to enjoying the fantastic, fruit-y-licious, flavors of those sweet little candies known as Skittles.

Mr. Obama has been in office more than a full year, now. There are THREE people living in my house, and so far only ONE unicorn has arrived — and I don’t think it’s a MAGIC unicorn, either.

It won’t drink my waste oil or even get close to my barrel of 2-4D, and the only thing I’ve ever seen it eat is the money from my wallet. And its droppings? …well, let’s just say they sure don’t taste like any Skittles I’VE ever eaten before!

In fact, after last night I’m pretty sure that thing isn’t even a REAL unicorn. About 9:30 pm I went out to my garage to grab a frosty cold one from the “beer fridge”. I noticed some movement outside, through the window in the garage door. When I looked out, I could have SWORN I saw Rahm Emmanuel kneeling on the driveway super-gluing a traffic cone to a donkey’s forehead.

All I know is, until this whole Magic Unicorn/Skittles issue is cleared up I’M not trusting the Obama Administration to get ANYTHING right!

7 posted on 03/11/2010 6:17:09 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Kaslin

BECAUSE: We are free people. We must not find ourselves in a position where we have to crawl to our government to get the minimal things necessary to preserve our lives.

This is it, boys. This is the contest that will define our people for the next ten generations. Shall we live as free people, or will we live as subjects of the ever growing, ever more abusive state? This question will be decided in the next thirty days.

8 posted on 03/11/2010 7:03:17 AM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave.)
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To: WayneS; Kaslin

Yep, according to the arrogant mindset of the “ruling class”,

we oppose their agenda because we’re too dumb to understand it.

9 posted on 03/11/2010 7:04:52 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Kaslin; ExTexasRedhead

Yep, ditto for Tennessee. All the while 0 and his buddies are gut and cutting SS, Medicare, Tricare for Life for the Retired Military over 65, giving them NO COLA raises for 3 years, 1 of our CD investments renewal’s came in and the new rate is 1.34%, down from 1.78% which was down from the 5% under GW. All so they can give freebies to college students and illegals.

When commie rags like Mother Jones starts reporting that he’s going to cut and gut SS and Medicare....buyer beware.

Obama Puts Social Security on the Chopping Block

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts.


Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District

Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)

10 posted on 03/11/2010 7:19:44 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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This must get to Rush, Hannity, Beck, Levin, Savage and others so Americans can turn the heat up on the tar and feathers.

11 posted on 03/11/2010 7:21:31 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: mbynack; ExTexasRedhead

All the while giving freebie’s to college students, and illegals at the expense of our retired Military, and senior citizens.

Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

12 posted on 03/11/2010 7:22:22 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: GailA
I saw an interview with a college kid (Political Science Major) who was talking about how great the new Obama plan was. It will forgive college loans after 10 years.

I was thinking - what an idiot. He's going to be repaying the loan with interest in the form of higher taxes.

When I was in college we had an Engineering Economics class. The professor said that the one thing that he wanted us to learn from the class was, "There's no such thing as a free lunch." The same is true in physics, engineering, advertising, marketing, etc. You don't get something for nothing - ever.

13 posted on 03/11/2010 7:29:20 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: WayneS
...AND, everyone in America would receive a magic unicorn that eats toxic waste and craps Skittles.

Because of the problems that he inherited from George Bush, such as over-hunting of skittle crapping unicorns, they've had to delay the large scale distribution of skittle crapping unicorns until his second term. It was in 64 of his 247 speeches that he gave last month.

14 posted on 03/11/2010 7:33:36 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: Kaslin
The Public Opposes Obamacare Because...
It will destroy the business model of the private insurers instantly with its abolition of the "preexisting condition" exclusion, turning every insurer into a provider of welfare.

It is therefore a "single payer" system. And since whoever pays the piper calls the tune, it is a single tune-caller system - tyranny.

Beyond which, since it is "revenue neutral" only on the assumption that we pay for six years of benefits with ten years of taxes, its price to the taxpayer is radically lowballed.
Just for starters.

15 posted on 03/11/2010 7:46:17 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ( DRAFT PALIN)
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Wow. I listened to 183 of last m onth’s speeches and didn’t hear a word about it.

What are the chances of such a coincidence occurring? The ONLY speeches I missed appear to be the ones where he discussed the ONE issue most important to ME!

Then again, I suppose he could have mentioned the “evil-Bush-caused magic unicorn shortage” during those times in which I fell asleep during the speeches I listened to... ...which, now that I think about it, MIGHT have been a LITTLE more often than I previously considered...

Still, why was there no “Emergency Unicorn Replenishment Act” proposed by the White House during 2009”? Why were no “stimulus funds” awarded to zoos and animal preserves to help jump-start the magic unicorn breeding programs that were so badly neglected during the Bush years?

I mean, Mr. OBAMA is president now; and it stands to reason that the People and the main-stream-media will only allow him get away with blaming George W. Bush for all the country’s troubles for SO long... doesn’t it?

16 posted on 03/11/2010 7:54:06 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Kaslin

People understand that they intend to use public health as an umbrella to control every aspect of our lives. That is how they will go after the second ammendment, what we eat, how we raise our children, and it goes on and on. Thay must be stopped.

17 posted on 03/11/2010 8:25:03 AM PST by DanielB_Ind
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To: Kaslin

18 posted on 03/11/2010 8:25:25 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: mbynack

I had Econ in HS....and raised 2 boys on my own, at $3.50 starting wage I made to much money for even food stamps. Bought all their clothes, except shoes, underwear and socks from yard sales. I could do better doing the budget than congress!

19 posted on 03/11/2010 9:21:20 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I’m not getting RUSH game has taken over the channel. :(

20 posted on 03/11/2010 9:22:22 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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