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Police clash with protesters as Greeks fight cuts
Reuters/YahooNews ^ | 3/11/10 | Renee Maltezou and Ingrid Melander

Posted on 03/11/2010 8:11:25 AM PST by Kartographer

Police clashed with stone-throwing youths in Athens on Thursday as tens of thousands protested draconian cutbacks aimed at pulling Greece out of a debt crisis shaking the euro zone.

About 50 black-hooded youths hurled sticks and pieces of marble broken from the steps of the Bank of Greece at police, who responded with several rounds of tear gas.

The youths threw petrol bombs, smashed shop windows and set garbage containers on fire, but the level of violence was much lower than during 2008 riots that paralyzed the city for weeks after the police killing of a teenager.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anarchists; communists; mds; newsds; revolution; sds
Maybe 'Zero' can have them over for some uzo and talk it out. (sarc0
1 posted on 03/11/2010 8:11:25 AM PST by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer
The youths threw petrol bombs, smashed shop windows and set garbage containers on fire ...

And the cops are responding with tear gas? Try using live ammunition instead.

2 posted on 03/11/2010 8:13:52 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Kartographer

It is quite possible that the only building left standing in a few weeks after the rioting stops will be those on the Acropolis.


3 posted on 03/11/2010 8:14:14 AM PST by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: mlocher

It sounds like as great time to be a tourist in Greece. NOT!


4 posted on 03/11/2010 8:16:05 AM PST by hal ogen
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To: Kartographer

I thought at first it said “Greeks fight cats”.


5 posted on 03/11/2010 8:16:14 AM PST by rahbert
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To: Kartographer

We’re going to be seeing this in the US in the not too distant future. It’s inevitable.


6 posted on 03/11/2010 8:16:46 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Kartographer
Don't mess with anyone's ‘free stuff’...
7 posted on 03/11/2010 8:18:28 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Psycho_Bunny

As soon as the first person gets denied his/her AFDC check at the welfare office,

riots will ensue,

and they’ll first burn down their own neighborhoods,
causing HUNDREDS of dollars in damages.


8 posted on 03/11/2010 8:18:42 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

“and they’ll first burn down their own neighborhoods,
causing HUNDREDS of dollars in damages.”

Just consider it ‘Urban Renewal’!


9 posted on 03/11/2010 8:21:18 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
This is what withdrawal looks like when the government runs out of money. These students are addicted to government programs and entitlements. I expect the same thing to happen in America when the government can no longer support people's addiction to government entitlements. People really do need to become self-reliant for their own welfare. Survival is the name of the game.
10 posted on 03/11/2010 8:21:19 AM PST by Nosterrex
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To: Psycho_Bunny

We’re going to be seeing this in the US in the not too distant future. It’s inevitable.


Yes, we will.


11 posted on 03/11/2010 8:21:32 AM PST by unkus
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To: Psycho_Bunny

“We’re going to be seeing this in the US in the not too distant future. It’s inevitable.”

I agree. Look at the factors:

1. US current Federal deficit (admitted) is currently approx = to US GDP; Greece deficit is slightly more than Greece GDP

2. Actually, when we start adding the costs of SS and Medicare in a few years, US Federal deficit will be WAY more than US GDP

3. Greece has a large population accustomed to Gov handouts; US has a large population accustomed to Gov handouts

4. Many Greek politicians are socialists/communists; same with US

5. Greece had to cut back Gov benefits because they are broke; US will probably be in the same situation in a few (say, about 10) years


12 posted on 03/11/2010 8:22:11 AM PST by Stat-boy
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To: Nosterrex

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2448876/posts


13 posted on 03/11/2010 8:22:26 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

the usual suspects just causing problems.

same old anachists, see a few years ago when they were lighting forest fires.


14 posted on 03/11/2010 8:22:40 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: MrB
and they’ll first burn down their own neighborhoods...

I believe that is referred to as the Watts syndrome. ;-)

15 posted on 03/11/2010 8:22:52 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Nosterrex

We’ve already seen a small portion of this with our college kids. Has anyone asked these kids the question “We are out of money, where do you suggest we get more?”


16 posted on 03/11/2010 8:24:59 AM PST by RC2
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To: Kartographer

“and they’ll first burn down their own neighborhoods,
causing HUNDREDS of dollars in damages.”

Just consider it ‘Urban Renewal’!

A professor in college once told me with a perfectly
straight face that this was a legitimate tactic and
was the only way to bring about “change” (there’s
that word again)


17 posted on 03/11/2010 8:25:06 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kartographer
Here's something I put together last year on the riots there...

From Marxist.com, January 12, 2009:
Revolutionary ferment in Greece – a taste of what is to come for the whole of Europe:
http://www.marxist.com/revolutionary-ferment-greece-taste-for-europe.htm

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From Wikipedia with references at site...

Anarcho-syndicalism


A common Anarcho-Syndicalist flag.

In the early 20th century, anarcho-syndicalism arose as a distinct school of thought within anarchism.[78] With greater focus on the labour movement than previous forms of anarchism, syndicalism posits radical trade unions as a potential force for revolutionary social change, replacing capitalism and the state with a new society, democratically self-managed by the workers.

Anarcho-syndicalists seek to abolish the wage system and private ownership of the means of production, which they believe lead to class divisions. Important principles include workers' solidarity, direct action (such as general strikes and workplace recuperations), and workers' self-management. This is compatible with other branches of anarchism, and anarcho-syndicalists often subscribe to anarchist communist or collectivist anarchist economic systems.[79] Its advocates propose labour organization as a means to create the foundations of a non-hierarchical anarchist society within the current system and bring about social revolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

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In this photo from a December 11, 2008 Marxist.com article, the protesters can be seen giving the communist fist salute.

Marxist.com is obviously a pro-communist website.

And here they are with large red (communist) flags...

"After four days of struggle we can now start to draw some first clear conclusions. Without any doubt this movement deserves the title of 'teenager uprising'. We have here a new generation of tens of thousands of school students erupting in a huge explosion, the biggest for 20 years, if not even more, in Greece. We have clear symptoms of an instinctive revolutionary spirit, and a clear tendency to target not only the present bourgeois government but also the bourgeois state and the capitalist system as a whole."

http://www.marxist.com/greece-teenager-uprising-big-general-strike.htm
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Greece: massive school student attack against police stations all over the country!
By Editorial Board of "Marxistiki Foni" December 10, 2008
http://www.marxist.com/greece-school-student-attack-police-stations.htm
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The “masked ones”, as they are known, hold informal assemblies each day, where everyone has a chance to discuss where this “revolution” is headed. They even debate whether it is a revolution. “It is a social riot,” said another gate guard, “and it’s still going on. We don’t know yet where it will lead.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5333758.ece

18 posted on 03/11/2010 8:25:42 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
We’re going to be seeing this in the US in the not too distant future. It’s inevitable.

It's all part of the international revolutionary communist movement. The new SDS (Students for a Democratic Society, of which the Weather Underground emerged) is leading the protests/riots here in the US.

19 posted on 03/11/2010 8:29:35 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Kartographer

Funny thing, how much do these protesters think they’re costing their government by their antics?

The government is going to have to fix damage to public infrastructure, hire police, pay for these people to be in jail, etc., all at a time when they’re broke.


20 posted on 03/11/2010 8:29:57 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Kartographer

What interests me is that the article says violence is lower than in years past. Are the majority maybe waking up to the fact that gov’t can’t spend money it doesn’t have?

As for the youths, they are no doubt like my nephew who had a left-wing, as opposed to a liberal, education. It’s going to take a long time for reality to set in.


21 posted on 03/11/2010 8:35:03 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: ETL
While tea partiers are peaceful and well-informed, leftists are violent and ignorant. And, unfortunately, the leftists control the levers of power today.

When (if) the commie regime in the White House ends peacefully or is forcefully removed, we better wake up and start severely cracking down on the Left. Hard. With extreme prejudice.

22 posted on 03/11/2010 8:39:00 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: RC2

California’s College Dreamers: When will students figure out the politicians have sold them out?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2467843/posts


23 posted on 03/11/2010 8:43:23 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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RE: their revolutionary communist counterparts here in the US

SDS Organizing for National Day of Action for Education Rights

SDS is part of the Education Rights Campaign at UWM. The coalition of student groups, faculty, and workers are organizing a speak out to be held in the UWM Union on March 4th, in solidarity with the National Day of Action for Education Rights, and the massive actions that will be happening in California and across the country. Here are our demands for the UWM administration:

Justice for Students and Workers at UWM!

http://sds-mke.blogspot.com/2010/02/sds-organizing-for-national-day-of.html

24 posted on 03/11/2010 8:43:56 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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From Trevor Loudon’s newzeal.blogspot.com:

“In early 2006, a group of former SDS members and sympathisers, led by DSA activist Paul Buhle joined with some a new generation of college students to re-found Students For a Democratic Society. The movement now has over 130 chapters across the USA.

More importantly Buhle and co also founded an SDS support group for older activists-Movement for a Democratic Society (MDS). SDS is the muscle behind the new protest movement and was very prominent in the recent violence at the Republican National Convention at St Paul Minnesota. MDS is the brains behind the SDS brawn”

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-file-30-former-terrorists-bill.html

25 posted on 03/11/2010 8:44:03 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: MrB

“As soon as the first person gets denied his/her AFDC check at the welfare office, riots will ensue, and they’ll first burn down their own neighborhoods, causing HUNDREDS of dollars in damages.”

Fantastic reply!!! You are so right in both points! Thanks for the laugh this morning...


26 posted on 03/11/2010 8:46:31 AM PST by hot4plasma
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“East Lansing, MI - November 30, 2007. Bill Ayers, a close friend of Bert Garskof, speaks at the MSU [Michigan State University] SDS Reunion. Garskof was a mentor to Ayers and many other SDSers... (Part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP15wJl9YPo&feature=PlayList&p=17C081DF46872533&index=0&playnext=1

Remaining parts at YouTube.


27 posted on 03/11/2010 8:46:33 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Stat-boy

you forgot Greece has done TWO illegal alien amnesties!

The second was done after the first one could not handle the volume.

Then again keep in mind these 50 “youts” are the usual european deadbeat anarchists.

You also have greenpeace kooks doing petitions in athens.


28 posted on 03/11/2010 8:48:19 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: bassmaner
When (if) the commie regime in the White House ends peacefully or is forcefully removed, we better wake up and start severely cracking down on the Left -Hard.

We will need to begin with a massive education program. There is such incredible ignorance in our country about what is happening, it's both frightening and depressing.

29 posted on 03/11/2010 8:51:34 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I can't wait to see this in California. They have made their bead of straw and twigs, now it is time to watch their own brainwashed socialist thugs turn on their masters.

I'm enjoying watching this happen in Europe. I hope it gets a lot worse. The more riots, fires, destruction the better. The only hope for avoiding it in the US is for there to be an obvious example someplace else that everyone can see. Greece was the worst, so they unfortunately get to serve as the first object lesson for the rest. I feel sorry for them as individuals, but collectively they set the stage, we may as well learn something from the show.
30 posted on 03/11/2010 8:52:47 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Kartographer
"The government blames the last administration, accusing it of concealing the extent of Greece's debt problem."

Looks like the socialists in that country take the same tact as the socialists in this country.
31 posted on 03/11/2010 8:57:56 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Kartographer

After a few weeks without food the level of energy should subside dramatically.


32 posted on 03/11/2010 8:59:31 AM PST by The Duke
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To: GonzoGOP

Nothing happens in greece that didn’t happen there during the last 150 years - they have been corrupt they have been protesting they have been anti-state ...

It’s how they live.

If anyone - investor, politico, citizen thinks that this was now about to change I would admire their optimism but not share it.


33 posted on 03/11/2010 9:00:00 AM PST by Rummenigge (there are people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Kartographer

Greece is defacto example of how Socialism is never the end game. The End Game is full blown communism. Socialism is just the middle ground on the way from Freedom and Liberty to the bondage of Communism.


34 posted on 03/11/2010 9:04:51 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The students never will. Only after they leave college, get into the working world and find out the truth.


35 posted on 03/11/2010 9:07:34 AM PST by RC2
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To: Kartographer

The Greek police need to bring these guys back to deal with the socialist hoards. ;)

36 posted on 03/11/2010 9:12:31 AM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: anymouse
More like the Torgan Horse of DEBIT!

37 posted on 03/11/2010 9:15:07 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: longtermmemmory

“you forgot Greece has done TWO illegal alien amnesties!”

Did not know that, thanks. That’s why I enjoy FR—an endless source of knowledge on topics ranging from science, religion, politics, economics, just about anything!


38 posted on 03/11/2010 9:18:04 AM PST by Stat-boy
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Whenever the newswires vaguely describe (not by accident or sloppiness) a scene of “youths protesting” and “clashing with baton wielding police” we can ALWAYS say that said said “youths” are either immigrant minorities, far-left agitators, or both. The far-left agitators, by the way, rarely have a dog in the fight and are simply opportunists who jump into any altercation with glee and try to turn it violent, just as they did with the ‘08 riots. This is the same for any country in Europe, as well as regions of the U.S. heavily infested with such vermin. They simply want to fight for the sake of fighting, causing chaos, smashing windows, and attacking cops.


39 posted on 03/11/2010 10:08:25 AM PST by Chiltepe
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