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1 posted on 03/11/2010 8:03:09 PM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

This was announced many, many, many months ago.


2 posted on 03/11/2010 8:04:59 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Red Badger

diesel ping


3 posted on 03/11/2010 8:05:26 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: smokingfrog

When they gonna build a nice diesel for the average car/SUV?


4 posted on 03/11/2010 8:08:50 PM PST by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: smokingfrog
Why doesn't Ford offer diesel cars in this country? They sell them in Europe....lots of them,in fact.I'd rather buy an American diesel and not be forced to buy German.
8 posted on 03/11/2010 8:14:07 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: smokingfrog; Red Badger

Dear Ford.....

Produce a Ford 350 with a compound turbo cummins 5.9L and a allison transmission and I will buy one !

If you don’t I will build one for myself........:o)


9 posted on 03/11/2010 8:15:22 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: smokingfrog

Inline sixes are better.


11 posted on 03/11/2010 8:20:52 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: smokingfrog

That is impressive! go Ford.


21 posted on 03/11/2010 8:46:40 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: smokingfrog

The whole Navistar/Ford dispute comes down to a “simple error” on one side.

Navistar developed a fuel map that was “right on the edge” of the metallurgy and design of their engine. They maximized power and economy without overstressing any component in the engine.

Ford was told to leave this fuel mapping alone, it was wholly outside their experience and WOULD prove expensive if messed with.

Ford altered the fuel map.

Engines with the altered (by Ford) fuel map failed, engines left alone with the Navistar fuel map did NOT fail.

Ford blamed Navistar.

The fact that Ford owns Cummins and needed ANY excuse to get out of its contracts with Navistar AND Chrysler (pretty much taken care of by the illegal takeover) couldn’t have ANYTHING to do with this, could it?

You’ll see Cummins diesels with the “Powerstroke” label attached and on the valve cover(s) rather than the Cummins name. Parts will be interchangeable, but only AFTER the warranty runs out...

The sad thing is, I have been a fan of both Ford and International since the 1960’s. I currently drive 2 Fords and have 2 IHC’s “in process” right now!

This whole dispute is all due to pencil pushers, I’m sure.


22 posted on 03/11/2010 8:59:56 PM PST by Don W (I only keep certain folks' numbers in my 'phone so I know NOT to answer when they call)
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To: smokingfrog
Indeed, recent tests showed heavy-duty trucks carrying 1,000 pounds, getting better than 26 miles per gallon in fuel-economy-challenges staged by Ford, with some drivers getting 34 miles per gallon, Ford officials said.

I think the author is confused. First he keeps referring to the F-150, which currently has no diesel available. Ford was developing a small diesel (4.4L?) for the F-150 but last I heard they weren't going to go with it just yet. So that leaves us with the F-250, F-350, etc.

I have a hard time believing that the new 6.7L diesel in a 6,000lb vehicle carrying 1,000lb of cargo can get 26mpg let alone 34mpg. If they do, I'll be first in line :-)

I have a 2008 F-250 with the 6.4L. Haven't had any problems with it but the mileage is atrocious, even for a big truck.

33 posted on 03/11/2010 10:05:26 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Democrats and Pelosi. The party of thieves, liars and tax cheats)
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To: smokingfrog

Fuel mileage numbers are interesting and encouraging.

I have an ‘09 GMC with a Duramax and 6 speed Allison automatic. I just finished some modifications to it over the weekend. I drove 18 miles to work this very morning and the fuel economy for the run was 26.1 MPG from door to door. I was very easy on the go pedal. Kept boost at 0 and EGT’s below 600 (pre-turbo) the entire drive.

Before modification, stock as it were, I averaged 15.6 MPG on the same run, same driving style.


38 posted on 03/12/2010 4:16:13 AM PST by IamConservative (Liberty is all a good man needs to succeed.)
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To: smokingfrog

You just can’t beat an inline 6 cyl Cummins.

6.0 Power Strokes (Power Jokes as my husband affectionately refers to them) are junk. The older 7.3’s were way more dependable.

We’re faithful fans of truck pulling and the only Fords I’ve seen do well, place or win all have Cummins engines swapped in them...usually die-hard Ford guys with a lot of extra money to spend.

Hubby is only faithful to the Cummins so he will only purchase Dodge trucks. But if Cummins ever ended their contract with Chrysler, he’d go where the engine went.


45 posted on 03/12/2010 6:57:19 AM PST by JenB987 (under God's Spirit she flourishes)
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