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AmnestyInternational: In the U.S., Too Many Women Dying While Having Babies
Time ^ | Friday March 12th 2010 | JENNIFER BLOCK

Posted on 03/12/2010 4:47:31 AM PST by Cardhu

Amnesty International may be best known to American audiences for bringing to light horror stories overseas such as the disappearance of political activists in Argentina or the abysmal conditions inside South African prisons under apartheid. But in a new report on pregnancy and childbirth care in the U.S., Amnesty details the maternal health care crisis in this country as part of a systemic violation of women's rights.

The report, titled "Deadly Delivery," notes that the likelihood of a woman dying in childbirth in the U.S. is five times greater than in Greece, four times greater than in Germany, and three times greater than in Spain. Every day in the U.S., more than two women die of pregnancy-related causes, with the maternal mortality ratio doubling from 6.6 deaths per 100,000 births in 1987 to 13.3 deaths per 100,000 births in 2006. (And as shocking as these figures are, Amnesty notes that the actual number of maternal deaths in the U.S. may be a lot higher since there are no federal requirements to report these outcomes and since data collection at the state and local levels needs to be improved.) "In the U.S., we spend more than any country on health care, yet American women are at greater risk of dying from pregnancy-related causes than in 40 other countries," says Nan Strauss, the report's co-author, who spent two years investigating the issue of maternal mortality worldwide. "We thought that was scandalous." (See the most common hospital mishaps.)

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1 posted on 03/12/2010 4:47:31 AM PST by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

Anchor babies.


2 posted on 03/12/2010 4:49:29 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("We are as numerous as the stars in the heavens, and we are all gun-men.")
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To: Cardhu
The U.S. Government must fix this like they fixed the USPS!

3 posted on 03/12/2010 4:52:22 AM PST by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
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To: Cardhu
The report, titled "Deadly Delivery," notes that the likelihood of a woman dying in childbirth in the U.S. is five times greater than in Greece, four times greater than in Germany, and three times greater than in Spain.

Note how they compared US healthcare to Socialist nations. If these are so superior, why don't I read about millions traveling there for advanced care? Most people in world come to US for their superior care.

4 posted on 03/12/2010 4:53:02 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: MikeWUSAF

If only we’d pass health care reform....no woman would ever have to die while having a baby again..../sarc

VirginiaMom


5 posted on 03/12/2010 4:53:45 AM PST by VirginiaMom
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To: Cardhu
"Every day in the U.S., more than two women die of pregnancy-related causes"

Every day in the US, illegal aliens murder or injure
more than 100 Americans, and they rape more than 50
American children per day.

Where is NOW, Amnesty International or the drunk US Congress?

6 posted on 03/12/2010 4:54:06 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Cardhu

I’m calling BULLSHIT on this one.


7 posted on 03/12/2010 4:55:12 AM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave.)
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To: Cardhu
pregnancy-related deaths in the U.S. are preventable, the result of systemic failures including barriers to accessing care; inadequate, neglectful, or discriminatory care

Such BS. Anyone who is pregnant is able to access free care during their pregnancy. The government will pay for the delivery and all the pre-natal care.

Some people choose to drink, smoke and do drugs during their pregnancy. When the outcome is bad they want to blame someone else.

8 posted on 03/12/2010 4:56:10 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Cardhu
The report notes that black women in the U.S. are nearly four times more likely to die from pregnancy-related causes than white women

And white women in the U.S. are much more likely to break a hip than black women. Which often leads to death.

Are these Al Gore's friends? Why do they present themselves as experts on subjects that they know nothing about? Oh never mind, they're liberals.

These folks need to go back to square one and compare black women in the U.S. to black women in other countries. Then tell us how "bad" off they are. NOT.

As for "access" to care, look into whether the problem is access or failure to use care that is available.

9 posted on 03/12/2010 4:56:38 AM PST by freespirited (We're not the Party of No. We're the Party of HELL NO!!!)
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To: Cardhu

Wow - just in time for the final vote on a health care bill. International organizations trying to meddle in US politics again (yawn).


10 posted on 03/12/2010 4:56:49 AM PST by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
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To: CholeraJoe
Far, far more important please note: "...... Such policies, designed in part to protect against litigation, have contributed to the U.S. cesarean rate rising to nearly 32% in 2007, the most recent year for which data is available."

The Democrats have been arguing that phoney baloney malpractice litigation costs little, so here are the dead babies somebody wanted.

The Democrats are killing these babies!

It's Nancy Pelosi and the plaintiff's bar who are personally responsible ~ we need malpractice suit reform NOW.

11 posted on 03/12/2010 5:00:13 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: newfreep
Most people in world come to US for their superior care.

Really?

12 posted on 03/12/2010 5:00:42 AM PST by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

My wife and I have three kids, 8.8 lbs, 9.7 lbs and 10.8 lbs. Wife decided after our youngest son was born that there would be no more kids, and after watching what she went through I had to agree with her.

Her obgyn was explaining to us that the average baby size in the US now (mostly due to good prenatal care and diet) continues to rise, making childbirth (especially first time mothers, who are getting older and older now) harder and harder. A 18 year old girl having a big baby is a lot easier the first time than a 30+ year old woman.

Health care has absolutely nothing to do with this study or percentages at all, a big part of it is the choices we make that reduce or increase our odds of complications.


13 posted on 03/12/2010 5:00:56 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: CholeraJoe

No, I’d say it’s probably black mothers and babies. They have always had a high mortality rate, partly because of poor nutrition (Hispanics and other immigrant groups, even though poor, generally tend to have a better diet) and the fact that many of these mothers are in their early teens. Their health is poor even before they become pregnant.

For some reason, there also seems to be a real aversion to pre-natal care in this group, and it is very hard to get them under a doctor’s care (even though it’s free for them). They need to do things like eat a good diet, take prenatal vitamins to lessen the possibility of certain congenital problems in their babies, and be watched for early signs of complications, such as high blood pressure, fluid retention, etc. However, you can’t force them to go to the doctor, and for some reason, they won’t go until labor begins.

Interestingly, I once read that there was a rise in infant and child mortality among whites when doctors began encouraging women to gain virtually no weight during pregnancy. I think a more rational view is now taken. But that’s the flip side of not enough prenatal care...too much!


14 posted on 03/12/2010 5:01:15 AM PST by livius
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To: Haiku Guy

See my note on the part malpractice lawsuits play in these needless killings. These are deaths brought about by the conscious negligence of the Democrat National Committee. Tim Kaine is doing the killing.


15 posted on 03/12/2010 5:01:52 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: Cardhu

If these statistics are accurate, it probably has a lot to do with the very low birth rate in Europe. If a woman has 0-1 children, she is a loss less likely to have complications during childbirth.


16 posted on 03/12/2010 5:01:52 AM PST by chickpundit (Hi mom!)
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To: Cardhu
...overuse of obstetrical intervention...

So it's not insufficient health care that's the problem, it's too much!

US has a large part of the population that for some reason or another don't take good care of themselves.
They mention poverty as a factor, but the women apparently had access to a hospital.
Women in other countries who die giving birth at home, are they even counted in this study?

17 posted on 03/12/2010 5:02:01 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Haiku Guy

>”I’m calling BULLSHIT on this one.”

Me too!


18 posted on 03/12/2010 5:02:57 AM PST by scoobysnak71 (I'm light skinned with no negro dialect. Could you milk me?)
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To: Cardhu

why doesn’t AI just friggin admit that their only purpose is to tear down the American system and replace it with BHO style Marxism.


19 posted on 03/12/2010 5:03:05 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: scoobysnak71

Look, guys, you can “call bullsh*t” all you want but you have Amnesty International pointing the finger at LACK OF TORT REFORM being the root cause.


20 posted on 03/12/2010 5:04:58 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: livius

I agree with what you posted, except about the early teens part.

Humans up until just recently always had their kids in the teenage years, our bodies are far more flexible and capable of it then.

A sixteen or seventeen year old woman is far more likely to have a safer pregnancy than a 35 year old is.


21 posted on 03/12/2010 5:05:59 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Cardhu

In truth, 1 mother dying in childbirth is too many.. However, it’s the real world, and it happens. So AI can go FO.


22 posted on 03/12/2010 5:06:00 AM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Cardhu

I would trust Amnesty International’s numbers like I trust my Bible./sarc

Every day in the U.S., more than two women die of pregnancy-related causes, with the maternal mortality ratio doubling from 6.6 deaths per 100,000 births in 1987 to 13.3 deaths per 100,000 births in 2006. (And as shocking as these figures are, Amnesty notes that the actual number of maternal deaths in the U.S. may be a lot higher since there are no federal requirements to report these outcomes and since data collection at the state and local levels needs to be improved.)

Obesity, no prenatal care for illegals who show up to have their baby. They’ll cry about no actual numbers for birth related deaths but they won’t cry for actual numbers of abortion related deaths, and you will never hear about how having a child is good for you, especially with all the joy and love that is produced watching their shenanigans.


23 posted on 03/12/2010 5:06:30 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Cardhu
Yes. Really!

This article is total BS and just another attempt to validate the failed Euro-socialism.

In America, we don't want no steenkin' socialism. We want our individual freedom as defined in our Constitution.

MAO-bam is a communist. Deal with it!

24 posted on 03/12/2010 5:06:51 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Haiku Guy

“I’m calling BULLSHIT on this one.”

__________________________________________

You and me both. I don’t believe this for a minute.

Saying this as one who, having moved to Canada for her husband 10 years ago, dearly misses American health care.


25 posted on 03/12/2010 5:06:53 AM PST by proud American in Canada (my former tagline "We can, and we will prevail" doesn't fit with the usurper's goals.)
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To: livius
They need to do things like eat a good diet, take prenatal vitamins to lessen the possibility of certain congenital problems in their babies, and be watched for early signs of complications, such as high blood pressure, fluid retention, etc.

You forgot, "Not smoke, drink, and use drugs."

26 posted on 03/12/2010 5:06:58 AM PST by CholeraJoe ("We are as numerous as the stars in the heavens, and we are all gun-men.")
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To: Cardhu
"Every day in the U.S., more than two women die of pregnancy-related causes"

Wow! In a country of 300,000,000 people *only* 2.4 women die of pregnancy related causes each day.My guess is that more than that die each day from stubbed toes.And of those 2.4 women,how many of them had,the day before,entered this country illegally from Mexico,Guatemala,Nigeria,etc? And how many of them were junkies who has access to good pre-natal care but couldn't be bothered to take advantage because they were "just too busy"?

27 posted on 03/12/2010 5:11:06 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: newfreep
Note how they state “A woman dying in childbirth”, but don't specify they number of pregnancies/births to females. They do give the rate against live births, but not when that make the first statement. Reproductive rates are very low in the European countries they name, so it feels like the statement is rigged.
28 posted on 03/12/2010 5:22:25 AM PST by Woodman
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To: ladyjane
“Some people choose to drink, smoke and do drugs during their pregnancy.”

Exactly. If women are dying during childbirth in this country it's not because the OBs don't know what they're doing. Show me a statistic that seems to demonstrate inferior care in the US, and I'll show you why the opposite is true and why the statistic cited is BS. In the US we have freedom, which means people who are at high risk for pregnancy related complications can choose to become pregnant anyway. People can choose lifestyles etc. that put them and their baby at risk.

Also anytime you see statistics from socialist countries ask yourself whether or not you can trust those statistics.

29 posted on 03/12/2010 5:22:44 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Cardhu
AI - You Lie!


30 posted on 03/12/2010 5:26:17 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Cardhu

AmnestyInternational: In the U.S., Too Many Women Dying While Having Babies

If true, too many OB doctors getting out of the delivery business because they cannot afford the malpractice inurance. Thank our attorney/legal system for that.


31 posted on 03/12/2010 5:27:25 AM PST by chainsaw ( 'You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power to taxi to the terminal)
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To: Cardhu

My, my, some JEALOUS folks who treat the US healthcare system with some dislike. If the US healthcare system is SO BAD, why do folks like a Canadian PM come to Miami FL, for heart surgery?


32 posted on 03/12/2010 5:27:45 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: chainsaw

Tort issues is why we have this Obamcare mess to begin with.


33 posted on 03/12/2010 5:31:07 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Cardhu

‘The report notes that black women in the U.S. are nearly four times more likely to die from pregnancy-related causes than white women’

Compare the stats between black women and white women:

1) the diet during pregnancy.
2) weight gain and the stress it places on the heart
3) exercise during pregnancy
4) one group(black) that is probably on medicare and one group(white) that probably is on private plans
5) white women probably are more emotionally supported by their husbands.......blacks have an extremely high out of wedlock pregnancies.


34 posted on 03/12/2010 5:31:11 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: CholeraJoe

“Anchor babies.” — CholeraJoe

Right. Safe borders would help curb this. So, do McCainiac and Nancy Grahamnesty want to curb pregnancy deaths? Secure the borders!

Save a baby — weaken McCain.

Adding this thread to:
Hayworth vs. McCain — Primary Headline Roundup
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2456305/posts?page=105


35 posted on 03/12/2010 5:32:51 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: ladyjane

“Some people choose to drink, smoke and do drugs during their pregnancy. When the outcome is bad they want to blame someone else.”

Also lots of women wait until they are over 40 to have their first child, that is added risk.


36 posted on 03/12/2010 5:33:13 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Cardhu

1) Where did AI get their numbers?

2) As pointed out already, there are many factors that contribute to bad outcomes. I’m willing to bet that the illegal border crossers, sneaking into the US to have their anchor babies after having had NO prenatal care (and possibly, no medical care ever), and subjecting themselves to the strain of crossing, have a fairly high mortality rate.

3) I think the new age trends such as having home deliveries probably increases the rate, too. Some of those New Agers choose NOT to have any kind of prenatal care.

4) The role of abortion cannot be overlooked. Although the only figures I’ve seen relate to fetal death rate, a past abortion is as risky to a fetus as smoking during pregnancy. I wouldn’t be surprised if that also translates to a higher maternal death rate.

Unless there is an immediately life-threatening pregnancy complication (e.g. ectopic pregnancy), child birth is always safer for the mother than abortion. It’s infinitely safer for the baby...


37 posted on 03/12/2010 5:33:42 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Cardhu

Is that supposed to be a part near the end where they ask which one has the lotion?


38 posted on 03/12/2010 5:34:09 AM PST by ClaudiusI
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To: Cardhu
The report, titled "Deadly Delivery," notes that the likelihood of a woman dying in childbirth in the U.S. is five times greater than in Greece, four times greater than in Germany, and three times greater than in Spain. Laughable.
39 posted on 03/12/2010 5:36:14 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Cardhu

Every day in the US, illegal aliens murder or injure
more than 100 Americans, and they rape more than 50
American children per day.

Where is NOW, Amnesty International or the drunk US Congress?

Where is the reporting? The outrage?


40 posted on 03/12/2010 5:37:51 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Cardhu

Wonder what the rate of death is for women in abortions in the US ???

Unborn = 100%

Grown up = ???


41 posted on 03/12/2010 5:38:16 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
**The report, titled "Deadly Delivery," notes that the likelihood of a woman dying in childbirth in the U.S. is five times greater than in Greece, four times greater than in Germany, and three times greater than in Spain. Laughable.** Unless and until the study includes the mothers' ages, medical histories, IVF attempts, multiple births and other extreme measures to save a pregnancy that might otherwise have resulted in a miscarriage - this report has no validity.
42 posted on 03/12/2010 5:42:42 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: newfreep

My girlfriend and I were in Greece just last month. Unfortunately, we got sick there...I got better but we had to take her to the hospital, though I REALLY didn’t want to.

WHAT A SH**HOLE!!!

First off, they had a “rotating emergency system,” in which one hospital was the emergency hospital for one day, then a different hospital the next. We found this out after being advised to go to the wrong hospital.

Once we got there, there was no checking in with anyone, no priority based on severity of your situation; we just had to take a number. Literally. I had a slip that said “#86.”

5 or 6 of 15 people in the waiting room were just bums who were hungover and wanted a free IV drip and a warm place to sleep it off. Needless to say, that waiting room STUNK.

We finally talked to an English-speaking doctor, and she was nice and all, but not very thorough. There was no form to fill out while waiting in the lobby, so she just asked things off the top of her head. She didn’t ask about allergies or bad reactions to medicines, recent surgeries, or whether she’s on any prescription drugs. At least my girlfriend had wherewithal to volunteer everything she thought might be pertinent.

The doctor says “it’s probably a virus, you just have to let it run its course.” So she prescribed a couple of things (won’t get into the details there) and gave her a diet of crackers and coke, which was pretty much what we were already doing. Ha!

Oh yeah, and while we were hanging out in the waiting room, an old janitor came walking through, dragging a large trash bag, and left a large brown trail of liquid behind him. Right through the middle of the waiting room. When he came back, he saw it, mumbled something to himself, and didnt come back (and we were there at least another hour). Also, a construction worker pushed a wheelbarrow full of busted concrete through the waiting room.

But not to worry! They have job security!!!


43 posted on 03/12/2010 5:43:42 AM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Diogenesis; Arthur Wildfire! March

Every day in the US, illegal aliens murder or injure
more than 100 Americans, and they rape more than 50
American children per day.

Where is NOW, Amnesty International or the drunk US Congress?

Hiding!!


44 posted on 03/12/2010 5:48:28 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Haiku Guy

I don’t call BS on this, I just don’t necessarily agree with their reasoning.

I think the health care community in this country needs to take a serious look at the rate of unnecessary inductions and high c-section (and repeat c-section) rate in this country. Some mothers are scheduling unnecessary inductions for convenience. Many mothers are pushed into inductions or c-sections when they aren’t necessary (and yes, I know some of them are necessary and life saving). Doctors have become so afraid of lawsuits that they won’t let mothers’ bodies do what they need to do. They push deadlines for having babies, deadlines for length of labor. And most refuse to perform VBACs (vaginal birth after cesarean) b/c of the “risks”, yet they fail to acknowledge the risk of major surgery.

We’ve put more limits on childbirth in this country than we have on abortion. It’s sickening. I searched high and low to find a doctor to perform my VBAC when I had my 2nd daughter last year. Couldn’t find one in the area. I finally found a wonderful midwife, who understood my desire for a pregnancy and birth with as little intervention as possible, to attend my homebirth. Best decision I made. And yet, even then there are limits. Many states have restrictions on midwifery. Some of them even make midwife attended home births illegal. My midwife, is is fully trained and licensed in Virginia, was not allowed to prescribe or carry medicine. So if I lost too much blood after the birth she wouldn’t have been able to give me pitocin to stop it. My daughter needed oxygen after the birth (cord issue that would have happened at the hospital too), but she wasn’t allowed to have any with her.

Hmm, I’ve rambled on a bit here. Sorry. A bit passionate about the subject.


45 posted on 03/12/2010 5:49:16 AM PST by elc
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To: Cardhu

“Most people in world come to US for their superior care.”
Cardhu:”Really?”

Hmm, like the premier of Newfoundland & Labrador Canada last month?
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/759760


46 posted on 03/12/2010 5:50:26 AM PST by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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To: muawiyah

>”Look, guys, you can “call bullsh*t” all you want but you have Amnesty International pointing the finger at LACK OF TORT REFORM being the root cause.”

Wrong. In order for your argument to stand, you have to accept the fact that the statistics from AI are correct. I do not believe it for one second. F*** AI and F*** their study. They have been trying to spread this lie for years and now, with the prevalence of those P.O.S. Liberals, seems like they are making headway. (I agree Tort reform is necessary, but agreeing with this so-called “study” crap in order to make a point (no matter how valid it is) is a no starter.) Just my HO.


47 posted on 03/12/2010 5:53:36 AM PST by scoobysnak71 (I'm light skinned with no negro dialect. Could you milk me?)
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To: ladyjane
“Oh never mind, they're liberals.”

No, they are communists!

48 posted on 03/12/2010 5:59:00 AM PST by dalereed
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To: Haiku Guy
I’m calling BULLSHIT on this one.

Agreed.

49 posted on 03/12/2010 5:59:11 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Useful stat, FRiend. Thank you.


50 posted on 03/12/2010 6:04:45 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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