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Gun control nuts are becoming suicidal
canadafreepress.com ^ | 11 March, 2010 | John Longenecker

Posted on 03/12/2010 6:23:28 AM PST by marktwain

More and more editorials outside the second amendment community are taking the position of praising Starbucks for standing their ground against the gun control bully The Brady Center For the Prevention of Handgun Violence, a non-profit. This is most significant.

Brady prevents nothing in the way of violence, as it bullies companies into submission and compels them to give in to disarming their employees or students and now customers. In bullying companies to refuse business to armed customers in states where it is perfectly legal to carry your loaded sidearm, gun control forces corporations to enforce rules that aren’t there in the state law. This can alienate customer and business and begin a lot more damage as it operates outside of due process and goes against the better judgment of both business and customer. Customers get cheated out of their rights and businesses lose the respect of customers for giving in.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antigun; banglist; bradywatch; guncontrol

1 posted on 03/12/2010 6:23:28 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I’m amused that so many in the media are being more vocal about this. I think that as people see the tent starting to fall in, more will flee for freedom knowing that they could take care of themselves.

I refuse to believe that we’re all doomed. I still believe there’s some fight left in the American public. We’re not all descended from Hippies!


2 posted on 03/12/2010 6:34:55 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: marktwain

This is a good article.

I have plans to go into our local Starbucks for the first time today (I am not a coffee drinker). I will buy a couple of pounds of their coffee and let them know that I appreciate their stand on the Second Amendment.

I’m hoping that many other citizens will commend them for their actions.


3 posted on 03/12/2010 6:45:46 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: marktwain

The Left realizes that they are losing more and more ground in the court of public opinion no matter how they try to frame their ideas. This is leading to the Leftists literally foaming at the mouth on TV and mouthing off totally incoherent, filthy, and idiotic words . As the Right wakes up and takes a stand against the Left’s agenda it is resulting in causing the Left to show who they really are at heart.

It is only going to get worse before it gets better, but in the mean time we can get out the popcorn and watch them fall on their own swords.


4 posted on 03/12/2010 7:09:58 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: marktwain

>Gun control nuts are becoming suicidal

I’m tempted to say “they can use my gun if they want.”

;)


5 posted on 03/12/2010 7:17:06 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I’m looking forward to rounding them up when they go totally stir crazy.


6 posted on 03/12/2010 7:43:41 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: marktwain
The best gun control nut is a dead gun control nut (especially when they dial the reaper).
7 posted on 03/12/2010 7:49:34 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Barack Obama is Osama bin Laden's relief pitcher.)
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To: basil

“...I will buy a couple of pounds of their coffee...”
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Better make plans to stop by the bank for a loan, first.


8 posted on 03/12/2010 7:52:23 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (Thank you for your contribution. Your comment has been submitted for review.)
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To: DarthVader

It would be nice to confine them to an island with shark-infested waters.


9 posted on 03/12/2010 7:52:32 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Like the Penal Colony of French Guyana “Devil’s Island” ? >:-)


10 posted on 03/12/2010 7:55:36 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: marktwain

I’ll probably get flamed for saying this but I’m amazed Starbucks has stayed the course in allowing guns in their stores.

The gun rights folks are overdoing it by purposely going into Starbucks stores with their guns. It’s bad press, even thou it’s legal. Having lots of folks walking around with guns is not normal and looks a little wacky to the average joe. Starbucks could easily say enough already, we are OK with guns, but don’t want the wacky press coverage so we’re banning them to put an end to this.

How the heck did Starbucks get singled out anyhow? Most stores allow guns.


11 posted on 03/12/2010 8:00:03 AM PST by revtown
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To: marktwain
Good catch! It's great to see supportive words in the printed media written by people who understand what the left is up to.


From the article:
The beauty is that voters may notice, too, that they don’t really need to listen to the left on any issue anymore as if the left has a legitimate opinion: it doesn’t. The left only pushes people around, its only purpose in some long-standing anger we will never understand, and that’s not much of a credible opinion on an issue requiring serious good faith. Soon, the entire left will be judged in November, and likely disregarded as not being as serious-minded as the issues require, but more self-indulgent, more self-serving, more unpatriotic.

We need solutions to abuses of power, and those solutions need to come from the electorate for a change and not from officials. That means electorate-originated thought and not official-originated thought. Brady and gun control obviously do not speak for the electorate, except in a very small, anti-liberty faction; we will always have people who hate this country, unafraid to say so, really, unafraid of what you think (obviously) about takings and getting others to enforce them.

Nothing would say Hatred of American Independence better than gun control and bulling people into it.

This November, vote for Independence from public servants.

12 posted on 03/12/2010 8:08:14 AM PST by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Well—there is that—but I have a few bucks stashed in a sock for emergencies—I’ll just call this an emergency—LOL!


13 posted on 03/12/2010 8:19:49 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Repeal The 17th

Quite right because nobody has $10 of discretionary funds just lying around.


14 posted on 03/12/2010 8:27:31 AM PST by Doohickey (I try to take my days one at a time, but occasionally several days attack me at once.)
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To: Doohickey

I think the ‘house blend’ is ten bucks a pound
and it goes right on up from there.
I drink coffee; a lot of coffee.
Ten bucks a pound is a bit pricey in my book.
They can have my coffee cup
when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.


15 posted on 03/12/2010 10:30:33 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (Thank you for your contribution. Your comment has been submitted for review.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I’m not a big fan of starbucks coffee, because it’s a bit over-roasted for my taste. The best way to buy coffee is unroasted. There are several websites that sell green beans, which you can roast yourself for a heck of a lot less than you can find in a supermarket or starbucks. I roast my own, and can really tell the difference.


16 posted on 03/12/2010 12:00:38 PM PST by zeugma (Proofread a page a day: http://www.pgdp.net/)
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To: revtown

Having lots of people walking around with guns is normal in Free America.


17 posted on 03/12/2010 12:08:23 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; All
It would be nice to confine them to an island with shark-infested waters.

Better yet, inner cities with gang infested youths.
18 posted on 03/12/2010 12:53:03 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Or put the yoots on the island with them and watch the Lord Of The Flies scenario happen.


19 posted on 03/12/2010 12:54:34 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I think you’re onto something.

I have a hunch they might then see they light when there is no 911 to call nor any armed security guards available.


20 posted on 03/12/2010 12:56:40 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Spktyr

In 1880.


21 posted on 03/12/2010 3:43:20 PM PST by revtown
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To: revtown

Texas has CCW, lots of people have guns. And there’s lots of plainclothes cops here, so again - lots of guns.


22 posted on 03/12/2010 5:41:15 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: revtown

Perhaps Starbucks should ban the press instead of people bearing arms.

Does not make sense either, does it?


23 posted on 03/13/2010 5:25:41 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: FlyingEagle

No they shouldn’t ban the press or guns..

It’s just pro gun groups are putting Starbucks in the spotlight and making Starbucks the lightning rod for pro/anti gun controversy when they didn’t ask for the spotlight. Starbucks has nothing to do with guns and I don’t think its right to attract unneeded attention to them. Now if they banned guns then maybe protest them, but why Starbucks when most other businesses allow guns too.

Its like PETA protesting a car dealership. What does that have to do with anything.


24 posted on 03/13/2010 7:58:46 AM PST by revtown
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To: basil

I’m not a coffee drinker, either... but thanks for the idea. Suddenly, I’m thinking that Starbucks’ gift cards and bags of coffee are going to make for some good Mother’s Day, Father’s Day, and birthday gifts!


25 posted on 03/13/2010 8:02:13 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Spktyr

It wasn’t CCW holders that started this. It was open carry, and masses of people with open carry weapons descended onto a starbucks to express the right to open carry. I would think non weapons types would think that is strange and probably make them feel uncomfortable if they happened to be in that store. Once they figured out what was going on maybe they’d be OK with it maybe not.. Just why Starbucks, they didn’t ask for the attention best I can tell.


26 posted on 03/13/2010 8:04:33 AM PST by revtown
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To: revtown
The gun rights folks are overdoing it by purposely going into Starbucks stores with their guns. It’s bad press, even thou it’s legal. Having lots of folks walking around with guns is not normal and looks a little wacky to the average joe. Starbucks could easily say enough already, we are OK with guns, but don’t want the wacky press coverage so we’re banning them to put an end to this.

Cowards like you are the reason people think it isn't "normal" to walk around with guns. When I was a kid in the 1940s and 50s, it was quite normal for people to walk around carrying, either hand guns or long arms, most often long arms, and no one thought anything of it. To run scared from bad press, which gun advocates are going to get anyway from the communist news media, is just being a coward of the worse sort.

Carry openly or concealed, it matters not to me. BTW, the state I grew up in, but was not born in, was CA. Yep, at one time, in the not so distant past, CA residents didn't scream, turn white and hide under their beds if someone carried a gun around openly.

I just wish the many so called conservatives who post on FR and advocate not carrying openly would get a brain and realize that their attitudes are anything but conservative.

27 posted on 03/13/2010 9:03:51 AM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

Down boy.. Man.. All I asked is why Starbucks? Why not protest a business that bans guns?


28 posted on 03/13/2010 9:10:42 AM PST by revtown
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To: revtown

Actually, it was started by people who wished they had a shall-issue CCW and not a may-issue-if-you-are-rich-or-well-connected CCW out in CA.


29 posted on 03/13/2010 9:26:22 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: marktwain

Starbucks’ Facebook “No to Brady”:

http://sv-se.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=22092443056&topic=15041&post=100122


30 posted on 03/13/2010 9:34:29 AM PST by Ladysmith ("A community organizer can't bitch when communities organize." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Spktyr

And this has something to do with Starbucks?

I did a little searching and didn’t search enough to find what exactly started it..

But Brady anti gunners asked Starbucks to ban guns. Pro gun groups showed support for Starbucks allowing guns, that’s good. Not sure why Brady targeted Starbucks 1st, probably because their the biggest coffee brand VS Caribou or Dunn Bro’s or whoever.

I’m not sure which came 1st, pro carry folks showing support and going into Starbucks enmasse or Brady folks trying to get Starbucks to ban them. My research shows pro carry folks.

But Starbucks did ask to be left alone.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100303/ap_on_bi_ge/us_starbucks_guns;

I give Starbucks credit for sticking to their guns to allow carry. But I say leave it at that. Give em our business but don’t draw undue attention to it.


31 posted on 03/13/2010 9:56:17 AM PST by revtown
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To: calex59

Starbucks agree’s with me.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100303/ap_on_bi_ge/us_starbucks_guns;


33 posted on 03/13/2010 10:30:43 AM PST by revtown
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To: revtown

Yeah, it started with people open-carrying unloaded guns into Starbucks’ in California to draw attention to the asinine gun laws there.


34 posted on 03/13/2010 10:40:28 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: revtown

Starbucks allowed open carry and the Brady Campaign tried to make an issue of it. Starbucks didn’t “do” anything except serve customers.


35 posted on 03/13/2010 10:05:31 PM PST by sig226 (Bring back Jimmy Carter!)
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