Charming gal.
Posted on 03/12/2010 8:53:14 AM PST by Nachum
This is Sarah Corrie Simpson's first visit to Israel. Her younger sister, Rachel Corrie, was killed by an Israel Defense Forces bulldozer in Gaza in 2003, at the age of 23. Now, the family is suing the state in the Haifa District Court.
"I'm glad the day is finally here, that the eyewitnesses are having a chance to talk in a court of law," she said in an interview with Haaretz on Thursday. "It's been seven long years."
The witnesses, who include Rachel's colleagues in the left-wing International Solidarity Movement, say Rachel climbed atop a mount of dirt to be sure the driver could see her, Simpson said. When he nevertheless kept coming at her, she tried to flee, but tripped and fell. "The bulldozer driver kept driving with the blade down, pushing the dirt over Rachel, and stopped when her body was under the cab."
"My father served in the military in Vietnam and was responsible for bulldozer operations," Simpson added. "He said there is no way that what happened to Rachel would have happened on his watch.
(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...
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Well that's an unbiased opinion right there...
Sorry, but them the apples.
wonder who...?
The closet Muslim in office?
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Really? Her father had to deal with protesters in Vietnam while driving a bulldozer?
Oh yes, now I remember that peaceful Ho Chi Min demonstrating in front of the Sigon City Hall...
This familty is all lunatics.
This case should be (s)quashed.
I think you just described manslaughter. You can’t run over someone because they refuse to move from the front of your vehicle, unless they are attempting to assault you.
Does not have to be. It can be someone who tries to stop a vast Jewish conspiracy, to which he attributes our friendship with and support of Israel.
You my be correct. A bulldozer is big, you are little.
She was celebrated as a hero for dying for her cause.
This is Israel, I don’t know what their laws are but they don’t dicker around.
Don’t want to die don’t stand in a ditch in front of a bulldozer.
This is true in San Francisco, not in a war zone.
There is a differenec between surviving and legalities. You can be right and dead. I don’t know the details, but I like the pancake referrals. I was responding to the post of the driver telling her to move and then runn ing over her. Hard to think that that’s okay in Israel. I’m sure someone here will have more details.
Puhleeze.
Charming gal.
Also, it’s not San Francisco. It’s in most western countries and Israel included. Tell you what, brainstorm. Let’s have a test. You go run over someone who’s in front of your car who won’t move fast enough and we’ll give you a pass.
Isn’t there somebody at the State Department that doesn’t like “F*ing Jews!”?
Even if that is how it happened, (and I don’t believe it was) she was intentionally impeding a military operation in a combat zone. She was an enemy combatant, trying to protect the tunnels and hideouts used to stage terror attacks that blow up innocent women and children. She was a traitor and an enemy of the United States and Israel, killed while facilitating terrorist attacks. She was a vile, disgusting human being and got exactly what she asked for and deserved.
Why am I suddenly in the mood for pancakes?
That's only because your dad wasn't in charge of bulldozer operations in your town, Mr Corrie was, based on his experience in Vietnam.
“If I was on the jury I’d vote for an award that equals 5 US cents.”
i’d vote the family get nothing and have to pay court costs!
“If I was on the jury I’d vote for an award that equals 5 US cents.”
>>>i’d vote the family get nothing and have to pay court costs!<<<
I’d also order them buy a pancake breakfast for everyone in the courtroom.
“Simpson said it was a U.S. government official”
I’m guessing it was her mailman. I really like our mail-lady
and we chat from time-to-time about criminal procedure.
Unfortunately for the lying Corries, photos were actually taken that day. Where is the "mound of dirt" she was standing "atop"? I sure don't see it. Her head was a good 5 FEET below the top of the blade!
This incident should have been handled by waiting for the police or military to arrest her and drag her off. There is nothing to indicate it required her to be killed for not moving, at that moment. Absent other facts, the driver committed manslaughter or worse.
When people lied down in front of troop trains, we arrested them and removed them from the tracks. There was no immediacy or urgent need to run over them, as much as you would liked to have seen it.
Pass the syrup.
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This assertion is not beyond dispute. The facts that are not in dispute are that she was struck by debris that was being pushed by an Israeli Defense Forces bulldozer, and taken to a Palestinian hospital where she died.
It was in the interest of the Palestinians that she die and of the Israelis that she live. Had she been taken to an Israeli hospital she might be alive today.
If you behaved like that in a construction zone, you’d have a pretty good chance of getting yourself killed.
You are arguing against a straw man. IF the death was inflicted purposefully, the driver would be at fault. IF he showed gross negligence, he would be at fault. Everyone agrees with that. Except the premises are false. Firstly, the driver did not see her and, secondly, the circumstances made easy for that accident to happen (hence my remark about San Fransisco).
“manslaughter”: def. The unjustifiable, inexcusable, and intentional killing of a human being without deliberation, premeditation, and malice.
Using your example, if someone steps out in front of your car, intentionally, and you strike and kill them with your car, is their intent imputed to you so that you are guilty of manslaughter?
This isn’t a story about American tree-huggers/`Lisa Simpsons’/trust fund babies lying down in front of logging trucks. Actions have consequences. She would be alive if she had not placed herself in front a working bulldozer. The operator was just trying to do his job.
I don't know exactly how to read this post. If you mean to say that all people in the State Department are somehow particularly Jew-loving, you are factually incorrect.
As a side remark, being Jewish, I don't appreciate it when someone refers to my people as “F*ing Jews!”
I would award them a $50.00 gift certificate to IHOP...
D-9R: 
The D7 above is a slightly newer model, the Vietnam era ones didn't have the ROPS (Roll-Over Protection System) fitted to them. But it's plainly obvious that there is still much better visability from the D7 then there is from the much larger D9 And the claim that the father was a Vietnam vet is a little fishy too unless he's a VVAW/Winter Soldier traitor like john fraud kerry since he's obviously not ashamed by the fact that his dimwit daughter was a member of a rabid anti-American/anti-Israeli communist organization.
Has nothing to do with tree huggers or the like. It's a legal issue. When you stop being blinded by your political beliefs, you can see the true meaning of the laws.
You example is not sufficient enough to make a determination. Could you have stopped or not? That is the critical issue. You don't have a free pass to run over evertyone who steps in front of your car. If you did, the cities of the US would be strewn with bodies everyday or until people get the point.
Let's proceed under the assumption that we are both rational thinking people. So don't insult me again with this type of example and comments.
If you see someone in front of your vehicle and you tell them to move and then run over them, you are guilty of manslaughter, unless you were unable to stop or aviod it.
No offense there GSC, but if your parents had to teach you that then you were one slow child... :)
>>>Would you want to meet the bulldozer driver?
“Yes, I would. Ultimately, in order to have any kind of restorative healing process occur, I need to be able to hear directly from him what happened that day and how he feels about it. As well, I hope he would be able to hear and somehow understand the impact this has had on my life and the life of my family. ... but in the end, it is also important that my family and the man who killed Rachel look each other in the eyes. <<<
I think a meeting is a GREAT idea. I think it should take place at the site of the incident. Sarah, her mother and father could stand at the very spot where Rachel died. Then the driver could get back behind the wheel of the bulldozer and try to “smooth things out” with the family.
My parents were very "involved".You should have seen my tooth brushing syllabus! ;-)
She looks like a terrorist to me and the driver. He was protecting himself and his country. Give him a medal
Protecting himself and his country.............ROTFLMAO.
To start with, she wasn't run over. She was standing on a type of platform, fell off of it and hit her head on the dozer blade. The driver stopped at that point and she died at the hospital. There are videos of the whole event. This is just BS by the parents who have to know why their daughter died, which was due to her own stupidity and the parent's stupidity as well for raising her as a left wing idiot.
These people are nuts. Simple truth if you stand in front of a running bulldozer there is a very good chance that you can and will get run over!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugOiF4araMg
Don’t know how edited this is, and it certainly tries to make Israel look bad, but here is video of the incident.
Any link to the videos?
These people are nuts. Simple truth if you stand in front of a running bulldozer there is a very good chance that you can and will get run over!
Did Rachel have pancake makeup on?
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