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Somebody Up There Doesn't Like ObamaCare
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 03-12-10 | JOHN FUND

Posted on 03/12/2010 4:50:27 PM PST by GOP_Lady

Speaker Pelosi's Treasure Hunt for votes isn't going well.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; fund; health; healthcare; hillarycare; obama; obamacare; romney; romneycare
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1 posted on 03/12/2010 4:50:27 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: 506Lake; AdvisorB; antivenom; angry elephant; Blonde; BornToBeAmerican; brivette; BroJoeK; ...


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GOP_Lady.

2 posted on 03/12/2010 4:50:47 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Somebody down here, too.


3 posted on 03/12/2010 4:52:09 PM PST by Defiant (To bring down a great nation, work to take away everything that has made it great.)
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To: GOP_Lady

Glad someone doesn’t like it:o) We can’t let up. I would’nt mind being on this ping list:o)


4 posted on 03/12/2010 4:52:44 PM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: Defiant

But somebody waaaaay down there likes it.


5 posted on 03/12/2010 4:54:11 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: GOP_Lady

If Pelosi had the votes she would have called a vote already instead of talking about having the votes.


6 posted on 03/12/2010 4:55:50 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Defiant
I trust nothing Pelosi says so I'm still not sure how close she is to getting the votes she needs. It would seem that the parlemenatian’s statement last night would have put her back some...But who knows..
7 posted on 03/12/2010 4:56:09 PM PST by hstacey (An ounce of pretension is worth a pound of manure...)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Agreed!


8 posted on 03/12/2010 4:56:26 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: GOP_Lady

Poor little Nancy Nurse and Doctor Harry.


9 posted on 03/12/2010 4:56:46 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: mtnwmn
You are added, mtnwmn! :-)
10 posted on 03/12/2010 4:57:50 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Fascist Care going bye bye?

It will be a good thing to go. It is a continual sickening sight to see “conservatives” go bonkers when Obama does his “insurance company bashing” performance which is completely insincere and opposite to what he is doing for the same companies. Especially embarrassing because one can go to any variety of lefty sites to see they have a clearer idea of what Obamacare is and what Obama really means.

Sites like Nat. Review are so deluded, I think when they contemplate what the bill really is, they have crises of consciences because it sounds good to them, the fascist transfer of wealth to large corporations on the guise of social welfare...that’s what “compassionate conservatism” is! It must be good! But it is Obama doing it, so they create fantasies about “socialism”.

On the bright side, Pelosi’s treads are wearing down.


11 posted on 03/12/2010 4:59:08 PM PST by Shermy
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To: GOP_Lady

Someone from the 18th century didn’t like it either.

From: Thomas Jefferson’s Notes on Virgina: Q XVII

Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now. Thus in France the emetic was once forbidden as a medicine, and the potatoe as an article of food. Government is just as infallible too when it fixes systems in physics. Galileo was sent to the inquisition for affirming that the earth was a sphere: the government had declared it to be as flat as a trencher, and Galileo was obliged to abjure his error. This error however at length prevailed, the earth became a globe, and Descartes declared it was whirled round its axis by a vorteo.

The government in which he lived was wise enough to see that this was no question of civil jurisdiction, or we should all have been involved by authority in vortices. In fact, the vortices have been exploded, and the Newtonian principle of gravitation is now more firmly established, on the basis of reason, than it would be were the government to step in, and to make it an article of necessary faith. Reason and experiment have been indulged, and error has fled before them.

It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself. Subject opinion to coercion: whom will you make your inquisitors? Fallible men; men governed by bad passions, by private as well as public reasons. And why subject it to coercion? To produce uniformity. But is uniformity of opinion desireable? No more than of face and stature. Introduce the bed of Procrustes then, and as there is danger that the large men may beat the small, make us all of a size, by lopping the former and stretching the latter.

But is the spirit of the people an infallible, a permanent reliance? Is it government? Is this the kind of protection we receive in return for the rights we give up? Besides, the spirit of the times may alter, will alter. Our rulers will become corrupt, our people careless. A single zealot may commence persecutor, and better men be his victims. It can never be too often repeated, that the time for fixing every essential right on a legal basis is while our rulers are honest, and ourselves united. From the conclusion of this war we shall be going down hill. It will not then be necessary to resort every moment to the people for support. They will be forgotten, therefore, and their rights disregarded. They will forget themselves, but in the sole faculty of making money, and will never think of uniting to effect a due respect for their rights. The shackles, therefore, which shall not be knocked off at the conclusion of this war, will remain on us long, will be made heavier and heavier, till our rights shall revive or expire in a convulsion.


12 posted on 03/12/2010 5:01:25 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: GOP_Lady

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/capitol-view-lo-res.jpg

We The People are big-time pissed and will be expressing that in November. Pelosi et al. can take that to their empty Bank.


13 posted on 03/12/2010 5:03:00 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: GOP_Lady

14 posted on 03/12/2010 5:06:21 PM PST by GloriaJane (Pro-Choice = Pro-Death........ Pro-Life = Pro-LIFE!)
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To: GOP_Lady

Hell, somebody down HERE doesn’t like it.


15 posted on 03/12/2010 5:13:16 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
If Pelosi had the votes she would have called a vote already instead of talking about having the votes.

Truer words were never spoken.

My fear is turning on the radio one morning next week or logging on to FR one evening and learning about the House being ordered to assemble in a few hours...because as soon as she has them, that demonic old scarecrow will use them.

Keep praying.
16 posted on 03/12/2010 5:13:44 PM PST by LostInBayport (2010 - The Second American Revolution. The first shot was fired 1/19/2010 -- here in Massachusetts!)
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To: GOP_Lady

His initials are JC....and he’s not very fond of marxist socialist totalitarianism.


17 posted on 03/12/2010 5:15:24 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: LostInBayport

Fingers crossed and prayers up!!!


18 posted on 03/12/2010 5:23:18 PM PST by hstacey (An ounce of pretension is worth a pound of manure...)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American

Nancy and Harry are just common slaves on the plantation where mac daddy is the straw boss who gets his orders from those he sold his soul to to become the phony figurehead POTUS.


19 posted on 03/12/2010 5:28:40 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: GOP_Lady
Not one of the Democrats who voted against health care last year has proclaimed support for the Senate bill, while dozens of members who voted for it last year say they are undecided.

I had read otherwise.

Sure hope Fund is right about this.

20 posted on 03/12/2010 5:33:18 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: GOP_Lady

I’ve been praying for our country at Mass every Sunday. The traditional thing is to pray that God will enlighten our political leaders.

But in Obama’s case, it doesn’t seem likely. With God, all things are possible; but He doesn’t force anyone to do the right thing, if they are absolutely determined to damn themselves. He gives them chance after chance to change; but he doesn’t override their free will.

So I’m praying for our country, instead. May God bless, protect, and inspire our country to change for the better.


21 posted on 03/12/2010 5:37:10 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: LostInBayport

What needs to happen is we expose some of the “pro-life” members who are selling out. What’s the price for all those unborn babies? If we can’t keep exposing their backroom deals, they’ll jam it through as soon as they can.


22 posted on 03/12/2010 5:51:22 PM PST by Kenny
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To: dajeeps
It is error alone which needs the support of government.

And they've been supporting a lot of error since Hoover's administration.

23 posted on 03/12/2010 5:55:46 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: GOP_Lady

I’m always leery when they say they’re “undecided”. That usually means they are holding out for a deal before they will vote “yes”.


24 posted on 03/12/2010 6:08:16 PM PST by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: chiefqc

Obama was a mac daddy when he got elected. I don’t know if he still qualifies, because he’s having so much trouble getting people to do what he wants them to do; Here’s the Urban Dictionary definition:

A pimp is someone smooth and charismatic and good with women and uses his powers to exploit weak women.

A mack is a pimp that is able to exploit both men and women.

A mack daddy is a mac that is able to expoit other macs

A long legged mack daddy is a king or chief or master mac daddy. Sorta like the godfather of all mac daddies.

Obama is a long legged mack daddy.


25 posted on 03/12/2010 6:15:30 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
Obama is a long legged mack daddy.

What does that make George Soros?

26 posted on 03/12/2010 6:22:28 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I am positive you are right. This will be her Waterloo as well, and I am hoping that the investigation into the Massa scandal will ultimately bring her down.

I would be willing to bet that MOST of the Dem Sen's. are about freeking tired that that shrill telling them what they are going to do.

27 posted on 03/12/2010 6:23:19 PM PST by annieokie
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To: arthurus

I’m drawing a blank. To me, Soros has the charisma of a dead toad. But then I don’t see Obama as charismatic either. Clearly O had something going, though, or he wouldn’t have gotten over fifty percent of the vote. Not even ACORN could have cheated sufficiently to get him the margin he won by, imho.


28 posted on 03/12/2010 6:25:06 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: GOP_Lady

It’s odd that WSJ didn’t mention the shannanigans regarding the Slaughter (the USA) bill. Is that still in play?


29 posted on 03/12/2010 6:41:30 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (If you remove the first Amendment, we'll be forced to move on to the next one.)
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To: Outlaw Woman
It shouldn’t be.

Rush said on his show today that they are still working on using it.

30 posted on 03/12/2010 6:43:06 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

That’s what Mark Levin was talking about throughout his show this evening. And he sounded defeated to tell you the truth...like this is going to happen and then it’s probable nothing will be done (not for the lack of trying but because of the stacked court system we have now) I’m depressed and agitated but more than anything, I’m really hacked at how our emotions keep getting screwed with. EVIL is the only name for this.


31 posted on 03/12/2010 6:48:00 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (If you remove the first Amendment, we'll be forced to move on to the next one.)
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To: Outlaw Woman
I was just listening to Mark Levin's show from yesterday on my iPhone while driving home from work this evening.

He said that there will be plenty of organizations ready to slap law suits.

32 posted on 03/12/2010 6:49:42 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

He didn’t sound optimistic this evening. When we have people willfully breaking law...
He did mention, speaking only for himself, that he fully intended NOT to participate.


33 posted on 03/12/2010 6:54:23 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (If you remove the first Amendment, we'll be forced to move on to the next one.)
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To: Fantasywriter

Obama is a long legged mack daddy.

While this may be what defines a long legged mac daddy, obama is only a straw boss of a slave plantation who gets his orders from those to whom he sold his soul to to become a figurehead phony POTUS.


34 posted on 03/12/2010 6:59:12 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: Outlaw Woman
Wow. I have not listened his show from today yet.

I just downloaded it into my iTunes.

I will definitely listen in a little bit.

35 posted on 03/12/2010 6:59:38 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Call every moron who wants to possibly sign onto this bill..... each and every hour of every day.... git ‘em!


36 posted on 03/12/2010 7:26:28 PM PST by Republic Rocker
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To: dajeeps

Thanks for the Jefferson fix; I love this quote: “It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.” That’s going into my Tagline.


37 posted on 03/12/2010 7:31:15 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Do Not despair. Remember that God sits on his throne and Christ sits at his right hand. Remember also the last words of Jesus at the end of the Gospel of Mark, chapter 28 verses 18-20:

18 And Jesus came to them and spake unto them, saying, All authority hath been given unto me in heaven and on earth. Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit: 20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.

He has all authority in heaven and on earth. He is with us until the end of the world. Nothing takes place here on Earth without his say so. I believe God is going to do something great so, let's just wait, watch, and continue to pray.

38 posted on 03/12/2010 8:06:17 PM PST by ProvenWays
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"Nancy and Harry are just common slaves on the plantation where mac daddy is the straw boss who gets his orders from those he sold his soul to to become the phony figurehead POTUS."

Well put.

Ironic, isn't it, that we'd wind up with a black Massah', and anyone who dares point it out is vilified as the "racist" in the crowd??

Truth IS stranger than fiction.

39 posted on 03/12/2010 8:33:20 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: murron
"I’m always leery when they say they’re “undecided”. That usually means they are holding out for a deal before they will vote “yes”."

Or at least like they really, really thought carefully about it before the predictable cave.

40 posted on 03/12/2010 8:35:09 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: GOP_Lady

Numbers 25:3-4

So Israel joined in worshiping the Baal of Peor. And the LORD’s anger burned against them.

The LORD said to Moses, “Take all the leaders of these people, kill them and expose them in broad daylight before the LORD, so that the LORD’s fierce anger may turn away from Israel.”


41 posted on 03/12/2010 8:42:00 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Is the sarcasm tag really necessary?)
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To: ProvenWays

Thank you for that. I’m trying very hard to grab on to that because I do believe it with all of my heart. But also, my heart is broken over the direction we are headed as a Nation. I know that no human government system will last but I didn’t think I would witness this.......all of this (at one time) in my lifetime. But I knew when Obama was elected, it would head this way pretty quickly. It’s just overwhelming.
Have you been on the Religion thread? Good article there about the Rapture by the IgnorantFisherman.
Thanks again for your encouragement.


42 posted on 03/12/2010 8:58:59 PM PST by Outlaw Woman (If you remove the first Amendment, we'll be forced to move on to the next one.)
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To: All

check out Hugh Hewitt website. He has a email system to send letters to Blue Dogs.
http://hughhewitt.com

He also has a link to the Tim Burns, the Republican trying to take Murtha’s old seat.

Send him a contribution to send a message to the Democrats.


43 posted on 03/12/2010 10:43:16 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Cicero

Well said - and well prayed!


44 posted on 03/12/2010 10:55:06 PM PST by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: GOP_Lady

Thank you, ma’am.


45 posted on 03/13/2010 7:14:23 AM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: dajeeps
It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.

Thomas Jefferson

46 posted on 03/13/2010 3:00:11 PM PST by La Enchiladita (wise gringa)
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To: backwoods-engineer

That Jefferson line stood out for me too. The Founding Fathers were prophetic in many ways. I come across prophecies in Washington’s writings and speeches also. They worried whether the construct they labored for would stand, or for how long.


47 posted on 03/13/2010 3:04:24 PM PST by La Enchiladita (wise gringa)
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To: murron

There is something wrong with them for saying such a thing. WHo in their right mind could be undecided? You are right- it is code for “show me the money.”


48 posted on 03/13/2010 3:49:52 PM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: dajeeps

“potatoe” - Thomas Jefferson spelled it “potatoe!”

Where is Dan Quayle?


49 posted on 03/13/2010 3:50:54 PM PST by eCSMaster
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To: GloriaJane

Good one. Thanks for the chuckle.


50 posted on 03/13/2010 6:24:49 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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