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War not conservative (Rep. John J. Duncan, R-Tenn.)
U.S. Rep. John J. Duncan, R-Tenn., 2nd District ^ | 2010-03-14

Posted on 03/13/2010 6:46:36 PM PST by rabscuttle385

There is nothing conservative about the war in Afghanistan. The Center for Defense Information said a few months ago that we had spent over $400 billion on the war and war-related costs there. Now, the Pentagon says it will cost about $1 billion for each 1,000 additional troops we send to Afghanistan. One Republican Member from California told me recently that we could buy off every warlord in Afghanistan for $1 billion.

Fiscal conservatives should be the ones most horrified by all this spending. Conservatives who oppose big government and huge deficit spending at home should not support it in foreign countries just because it is being done by our biggest bureaucracy, the Defense Department.

We have now spent $1.5 trillion that we did not have--that we had to borrow--in Iraq and Afghanistan. Eight years is long enough. In fact, it is too long. Let's bring our troops home and start putting Americans first once again.


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1 posted on 03/13/2010 6:46:36 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: bamahead; Bokababe; dcwusmc; Captain Kirk; djsherin
Fiscal conservatives should be the ones most horrified by all this spending. Conservatives who oppose big government and huge deficit spending at home should not support it in foreign countries just because it is being done by our biggest bureaucracy, the Defense Department.

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2 posted on 03/13/2010 6:47:15 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMnj8yd8dqA
3 posted on 03/13/2010 6:49:04 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385
One Republican Member from California told me recently that we could buy off every warlord in Afghanistan for $1 billion.

That's been my thought from the get-go.

4 posted on 03/13/2010 6:50:29 PM PST by Hugin (Remember the first rule of gunfighting...have a gun..-- Col. Jeff Cooper)
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To: rabscuttle385
How long will they stay bought off?

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
5 posted on 03/13/2010 6:52:29 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: rabscuttle385
One Republican Member from California told me recently that we could buy off every warlord in Afghanistan for $1 billion

Yeah, and like any whore that can be bought for money, they will turn round and screw with others, right after taking our money. What is America going to do when the Taliban take our money, then turn round and start another jihad with Al Quaeda, the moment US troops leave Afghanistan?
And what will this congressman do, if Al Quaeda come and bomb New York again, after we've left Afghanistan because we “paid off the warlords”?

6 posted on 03/13/2010 6:54:45 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: rabscuttle385
Looks like someone else has been drinking the Kook-Aid...

Que up the 9-11 pics.


7 posted on 03/13/2010 6:59:31 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: ConorMacNessa
How long will they stay bought off?

My question as well. It is a fact that there are folks out there, mostly Islamists and communists, who will just not let us rest as long as we have any wealth and we do not serve their god.

8 posted on 03/13/2010 7:00:09 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: darkwing104
Looks like someone else has been drinking the Kook-Aid...

Jimmy Duncan is a Hard-Core Conservative.
Click here for explanation of political philosophy.
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9 posted on 03/13/2010 7:01:32 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: ConorMacNessa

IT IS always a temptation to an armed and agile nation,
To call upon a neighbour and to say:
“We invaded you last night - we are quite prepared to fight,
“Unless you pay us cash to go away.”

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That you’ve only to pay ’em the Dane-geld
And then you’ll get rid of the Dane!

It is always a temptation to a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say:
“Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
“We will therefore pay you cash to go away.”

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we’ve proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray,
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say:

“We never pay any one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost,
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!”

—Rudyard Kipling


10 posted on 03/13/2010 7:02:20 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: rabscuttle385
"Jimmy Duncan is a Hard-Core Conservative."

Who apparently doesn't even begin to understand the capacity, lethality, or perseverance of the enemy we face.

11 posted on 03/13/2010 7:04:28 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: rabscuttle385

The war is dishonest because our borders are wide open and our “leaders” fight to keep them open. We face an insurrection here at home while our best and bravest fight a hopeless war with insane Rules of Engagement, and fighting men courts-martialed for doing what they are sworn to do!!


12 posted on 03/13/2010 7:04:40 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: rabscuttle385

Fiscal conservatives also like to stay alive. This guy sounds like Ron Paul.


13 posted on 03/13/2010 7:05:28 PM PST by dforest
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To: RichInOC
Quite so, Rich! Another one I like is "We have millions of dollars for defense and not a penny for tribute!"

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
14 posted on 03/13/2010 7:06:25 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: JimSEA
We looked to Pres. Bush for solutions, after 9-11, put our faith & trust in him, but he told the world "Islam is a religion of peace"!! and proceeded to kowtow to CAIR, his friends the Saudis, while ordering troops to Afghanistan--it was widely known that major terrorist training camps were in Saudi Arabia and some of the hijackers had trained there. They should have been bombed to the Stone Age, for starters.

In the NINTH year of this war now; WWII--the World War--was over in six years, US part against Japan and Germany less than FOUR years. Unconditional surrender.

15 posted on 03/13/2010 7:15:36 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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The purpoas of the war has changed from retaliation to democracy building, and that is a conservative value.


16 posted on 03/13/2010 7:41:40 PM PST by webboy45
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To: molybdenum
WWII--the World War--was over in six years, US part against Japan and Germany less than FOUR years. Unconditional surrender.

Followed by decades of occupation, rebuilding, and incorporation into our defense alliances to keep them from sliding back and being attacked or seduced by other forces even worse than they.

We continue to maintain bases in both countries and to let their enemies know that to get to them you have to go through us.

17 posted on 03/13/2010 7:43:04 PM PST by marron
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To: rabscuttle385
When your are willing to barter with agents of the enemy your political leanings no longer matter...


18 posted on 03/13/2010 7:51:59 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Hugin

True, I think the whole point is to surround Iran, we should just nuke the whole area and be done with it.


19 posted on 03/13/2010 7:53:54 PM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: marron
Well, it's debatable whether we should even have entered the First world war, but I know this: In WWII, we fought to kill the enemy or when possible, take prisoners. If that wasn't the case, they were NOT turned loose to kill our guys. The Allies did the same. And at home, the FBI went aggressively after saboteurs, nazi-symps, communists too. Some were shot, others indicted & imprisoned . We had no immigration of the enemy and our borders were NOT open. And -- there was no social experiment in the armed services, such as females in combat, dont ask & dont tell, sennnsitivity training, or any other PC sh@t.

Our _resident, our SecDef & JCS and Pentagon are all compromised. Rumsfeld may have been OK, but he is long gone, and besides, he too had to follow orders.

There has been, and continues to be, a great swarm of contractors who are very rich from these wars. And our boys come home in coffins with the flag to grieving families.

20 posted on 03/13/2010 8:11:29 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: indylindy

Paul of course who is another hard core fiscal conservative & they are both right because it is true that there is nothing conservative about war.


21 posted on 03/13/2010 8:53:12 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: rabscuttle385

Is that the voice of reason I hear?


22 posted on 03/14/2010 10:10:49 AM PDT by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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To: rabscuttle385; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ..
Conservatives who oppose big government and huge deficit spending at home should not support it in foreign countries just because it is being done by our biggest bureaucracy, the Defense Department.



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23 posted on 03/14/2010 7:42:32 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: webboy45
The purpoas of the war has changed from retaliation to democracy building, and that is a conservative value.

You've got to be kidding. NEO-conservative maybe, but when did conservatism change to the point where it thinks it's necessary to spread democracy around the world?

When did the conservative opinion say that it is not necessary anymore to go to war w/o a formal declaration of war by Congress as the Constitution requires?

When did the conservative view act as if the President has the authority to put our troops in harm's way on his own?

I always thought that the conservative view was to mind our own business re: the internal affairs of other nations while @ the same time being fully armed & 110% prepared in case we are attacked.

Silly me.

24 posted on 03/14/2010 9:12:09 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: webboy45

Correction: that is NOT a conservative value. You should be more careful when you proofread your posts. “Democracy building” is a PROGRESSIVE/LIBERAL value. Look at who started it, with the League of Nations: Woodrow Wilson, the Socialist progressive Dumbocrat.


25 posted on 03/15/2010 4:31:44 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub. III OK)
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To: webboy45

Correction: that is NOT a conservative value. You should be more careful when you proofread your posts. “Democracy building” is a PROGRESSIVE/LIBERAL value. Look at who started it, with the League of Nations: Woodrow Wilson, the Socialist progressive Dumbocrat.


26 posted on 03/15/2010 4:32:49 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub. III OK)
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To: rabscuttle385; SoCalPol
Fiscal conservatives should be the ones most horrified by all this spending.

We spend far more on welfare and other entitlements.

Whacking terrorists is in the best interests of our national security.

How 'bout we go after spending on garbage like in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants, TARP and other such nonsense instead?

27 posted on 03/16/2010 3:48:15 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Allegra

Good point Allegra.
Some people think by letting the enemy take over other countries while flying planes into New York City bldgs
and shooting up and killing people on an American Army Base
and trying to set off a bomb in a plane over Detroit
along with bombing areas of London, Madrid, and the list goes on.

What ever amount of money we save, if and when the enemy take over here, it won’t do us any good when we are dead.


28 posted on 03/16/2010 4:27:58 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

We Win, They Lose!


29 posted on 03/16/2010 5:56:45 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: :"You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: Allegra; rabscuttle385; SoCalPol
We spend far more on welfare and other entitlements.

Of course...but that's no excuse for wasting taxpayer's $ or spending it in areas that are not proscribed by the Constitution simply 'cuz you think it's "needed", Allegra.

How 'bout we go after spending on garbage like in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants, TARP and other such nonsense instead?

BOTH of you are right. Quit whining about where to begin & START SOMEWHERE, OK? We need an America First/protect our borders defense policy rather than the current (& decades long) progressive one which promotes spreading democracy around the globe. Bring our troops home & place them along our borders, sea ports, & airports. We need to make Eisenhower's "Operation Wetback" look like child's play!

30 posted on 03/16/2010 7:49:59 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: ChrisInAR

I live 20 miles north of the largest and busiest border crossing in the world. San Diego - Tijuana.

When the Mexicans start flying planes into bldgs in NYC and shooting up U.S. Army base killing several people, when they have bombed areas of London and other parts of Europe and other parts of the world.
When their leaders have declared war on America and
the infidels. When they draw in blond hair American women into their terror plots.
I will then put my focus 100% on them and not the IslamOfascists who declared war on and Attacked our country.

Don’t tell me all the usual stuff.
I was in a counter rally vs. 50,000 Mexicans a few years
ago here. I know the drill and the rhetoric.
Don’t care for illegals but if someone thinks they can cover all of America and spend the next years rounding up 13 million + illegals and shipping back while the liberal media, ACLU and everyother left wing outfit fight
this you have sucked in too much on the bong.

When Ike did the Wetback there was a small fraction.
I know, I remember when Ike was Pres.

You can put up a 30 foot high wall from San Diego to TX,
they will still come here.
there are coming up the coast from Tijuana and landing on the San Diego beaches at 2 - 3AM boats 20+ at a time.


31 posted on 03/16/2010 8:42:36 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: molybdenum
In the NINTH year of this war now; WWII--the World War--was over in six years, US part against Japan and Germany less than FOUR years. Unconditional surrender.

And thank God we don't have any soldiers in Germany or Japan anymore.

32 posted on 03/16/2010 8:47:44 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
Paul of course who is another hard core fiscal conservative

Tell that to his earmarks.

33 posted on 03/16/2010 8:49:41 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude

also South Korea. It is so safe there now with North Korea and their nucks. But remember Ron Paul said Iran and North Korea are not a threat.


34 posted on 03/16/2010 8:50:29 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: AmishDude
Speaking of WWII: Hitler declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor. Immigration especially from Europe was closely watched. There were saboteurs working in Canada and those who escaped the intel (who often shot them on discovery)made their way here where they were captured. Some groups of Americans were pro-Nazi and our FBI arrested these when they went too far. They were imprisoned for the duration & in the case of treason were executed.

For over 8 years now our soldiers have fought a war while crippled by insane Rules of Engagement, againsst an enemy whose compatriots emigrate to America and are cultured and protected by CAIR. Their numbers have swollen to a dangerous level along with illegal aliens breaking into our country over the Mexican border. On the weekend 3 of our US Consul employees were shot dead at the border by Cartel killers. Pres. Zero was "shocked" and has done nothing.

The illegal invasion was allowed to flourish thanks to Bill Klinton and George Bush, now 0bama.

Approx. 30% of felons in US prisons are illegal aliens.

35 posted on 03/16/2010 9:16:20 PM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: Allegra
For every terrorist that is whacked, many more are of age, trained in jihad & ready to go, not to mention the madrassas. In many countries.

And when our soldiers do some whacking & get rid of a beast, they have to worry about court-martial! This is obscene.

36 posted on 03/16/2010 9:25:04 PM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: AmishDude

O no. Do not tell me that you are confused about the purpose of earmarks. Earmarks are not pork barrel spending but rather an accounting practice used to KEEP TRACK OF THE MONEY which is being spent. Are you then saying that we should not keep track of the spending the Congress engages in? The purpose of earmarks is to track how government spends money & just exactly where it goes. Dispensing with this practice is tantamount to saying that we should not know how much government spends & should be kept in the dark.


37 posted on 03/16/2010 9:55:10 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: rabscuttle385
We have now spent $1.5 trillion that we did not have--that we had to borrow--in Iraq and Afghanistan. Eight years is long enough. In fact, it is too long. Let's bring our troops home and start putting Americans first once again.

What good is freeing the mideast only to enslave ourselves to the Chicoms?

38 posted on 03/16/2010 9:57:08 PM PDT by NeoCaveman ("workers of the world unite, it's not just a slogan anymore" SEIU's Andy Stern)
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To: Republic_of_Secession.

You keep believin’ that. I’m glad it lets you sleep at night.


39 posted on 03/16/2010 9:58:12 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: ChrisInAR
Of course...but that's no excuse for wasting taxpayer's $ or spending it in areas that are not proscribed by the Constitution simply 'cuz you think it's "needed", Allegra.

First of all, climb down off of that high horse. You've no business whatsoever being up there. You can take the condescending attitude and pound sand with it.

BOTH of you are right. Quit whining about where to begin & START SOMEWHERE, OK?

Nice projection. I believe it is you along with Code Pink, ANSWER, et al that does an awful lot of whining.

There is no point in our discussing this any further because:

a) of your attitude

b)I am a Christian who will never worship any politician and can clearly delineate common sense due to the clarity of vision provided. I don't even understand worshipful cult members and what motivates that sort of thing.

Have a lovely day.

40 posted on 03/16/2010 10:34:28 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: molybdenum
For every terrorist that is whacked, many more are of age, trained in jihad & ready to go, not to mention the madrassas. In many countries.

How much knowledge do you have of what the reality is in any of these countries and what our troops and the mission are really doing?

And what is your source?

Just curious.

41 posted on 03/16/2010 10:36:16 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Allegra
You must know about the madrassas, let alone the underlying death cult of these 7th Ce. madmen and their history of conquest--And it is obvious that our military leaders, whom the troops must obey, force them to fight under ROE that either gets them killed, wounded, or court-martialed. McChrystal, not to mention Gen Casey of Ft Hood infamy, have indicated that its more important to show compassion and respect than to kill terrorists. Soldiers are supposed to hold fire if a known terrorist is using civilians as a shield; civilians themselves may be concealing bombs in their garments or vehicles but soldiers are supposed to 'trust' them; our side has to be careful about searching women because this is agianst the muzzies' religion...Navy SEALs under courts-martial for giving a terrorist a fat lip--with the most unfriendly CIC in our history who even would like mil. trials moved to the World Court!!

If we had fought this way in WWII, we would be speaking Deutsch today. As for sources, many sites on the 'net and in reports on FOXnews thru the years, books by researchers of Islam, Col Hunt & others.<><>Col Chessani after about 3 yrs or more of trial was cleared of charges, yet STILL they will not let him go entirely, and he owes lawyers a fortune. They have destroyed the lives of some men who we hardly hear about in the news. And a Muslim is our president. God help us all.

42 posted on 03/17/2010 9:29:23 AM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: Allegra

Our soldiers are just that, they are not supposed to be used as social workers in a politically correct war. That is insanity.


43 posted on 03/17/2010 9:36:55 AM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: molybdenum
I'm not asking about the madrassas, I'm aksing where you get your information.

I have information about things that take place in these countries and I certainly don't need some anti-war poster to provide it to me.

You're arguing points I haven't even made.

I ask you where you get your information because I don't understand why any anti-war people would even want to be on this site. We support the War on Terror here.

There's this little faction here that stands with Code Pink and A.N.S.W.E.R., demanding that we bring all troops home.

I can't help but wonder where people are getting this desire to see our own country attached (again) and possibly destroyed. These people have got to be following some bizarre leader who promotes this sort of thing and perhaps encourages spamming sites with it.

Hmmmmm....is it David Letterman? Michael Moore? Ron Paul?

44 posted on 03/17/2010 9:42:30 AM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: rabscuttle385

Removing a huge wasp’s nest from the house has costs - but so does ignoring the wasps until they start stinging in earnest.

Defense is one of the few legitimate functions of the federal government. The cost of defense should be taken straight out of extra-constitutional functions, IMO.


45 posted on 03/17/2010 9:43:30 AM PDT by MortMan (Viscous rumors are thickening.)
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To: Allegra
"I can't help but wonder where people are getting this desire to see our own country attached (again) and possibly destroyed. These people have got to be following some bizarre leader who promotes this sort of thing and perhaps encourages spamming sites with it--" I hate Code Pink, Micahel Moore and all their ilk. Does everyone on this site have to march in lockstep (goosestep) with pro-war folks? Our Islamic (not supposed to say that oh dear) ENEMY laughs at us as we go heavily into debt each year fighting a hopeless war AND wasting trillions with social programs here at home. The "enemy"--is Islamofascism, yet our leaders refuse to say it. And the enemy here at home is protected by CAIR, catered to by our PC government.

Code Pink & the other loonies do not care about American soldiers killed, they are attention whores who never grew up and are the spawn of the '60s rabble.

And as posters have noted, it is NOT a conservative virtue or value to "spread democracy all over the world".

And there have been attacks here at home, getting worse each time, and officials hastily downplaying any involvement of the "religion of peace".

46 posted on 03/17/2010 10:05:24 AM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: molybdenum
I hate Code Pink, Micahel Moore and all their ilk. Does everyone on this site have to march in lockstep (goosestep) with pro-war folks?

Then why do you use Code Pink phrases like "pro-war?" I don't know anybody who is "pro-war." People with common sense know that, while a last resort, it is a necessary evil sometimes.

Of course Islam is our enemy and I despise CAIR and all of that PC cr@p.

That doesn't mean that I think we should just bring all of our troops home and wait to be attacked (again) on our own soil.

We have severely weakened al Qaeda and we did that in a place of our choosing. Now that we have a Communist in the White House, it's hard to say what will happen, but bringing all of our troops home is just insane.

And pretty much all of the troops I know agree.

And as posters have noted...

That doesn't fly as any kind of support with me. Not on a thread that is infested with Libertarians.

47 posted on 03/17/2010 10:17:09 AM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Allegra
"That doesn't mean that I think we should just bring all of our troops home and wait to be attacked (again) on our own soil." That's always the answer, that we will be hit with another 9-11 or worse. Well, apparently that means an indefinite stay in the ME & maybe extending into Iran.

Meanwhile, we will be attacked by smaller incidents, Ft Hood for example, and the ongoing defiance and hostility of CAIR--resulting in death by 1000 cuts. And there will have to be a withdrawal at some point, and long years of trials for the terrorists captured/imprisoned, costing millions more; will Congress be arguing over allocating less money for trials--or less money spent on veterans needs stemming from this WOT? That would be obscene.

I'm not a Libertarian. But I agree with the "infestors" on this thread.

48 posted on 03/17/2010 11:04:30 AM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: molybdenum
I'm not a Libertarian. But I agree with the "infestors" on this thread.

Of course you do. Jack Duncan, the subject of this thread who says "war is not conservative" is no conservative himself.

He's one of Ron Paul's acolytes. The Paul faction is not conservative. They are more aligned with the Democrats. Their cult members march with Code Pink and ANSWER. You will rarely, if ever, hear a Paul acolyte say anything negative about a Democrat, but they'll trash any and all Republicans all day long.

They run on the Republican ticket because they want to divide and conquer. They try to infiltrate the party with their bizarre agenda.

Thank goodness we were able to thwart Debra Medina's attempt to infiltrate. That woman wouldn't even concede; she wanted to force a runoff and cost the state of Texas more money. With these people, it is all about THEM, not about the country.

Those people, including Rep. Duncan, are not on our side. (By "our," I mean the majority of FReepers.) They'll support Obama over any Republican, unless it is one of their own.

If you want to reduce the influence of groups like CAIR and have a government that deals with these terrorists properly, then vote for true conservative candidates, not these DeceptiCons.

49 posted on 03/17/2010 11:18:54 AM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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I doubt Paulites would be so vocal or so plentiful if the Republican Party had not let us down thru the years. They too are anything but conservative. Duncan is still right about the war, and I never heard of him before this article, I can agree with him on that.

Trying to make other peoples and countries over in our image (spreading democracy)is not conservative. The Leftists screamed "No blood for oil!" at the Gulf War, Bush One sent troops to rescue Kuwait (OIL-rich country) whose "royal" leaders fled to Eygpt or Paris --but if we were not tied to OPEC we would not have interfered & driven off Saddam. (Don't call lme Kerry now LOL I was for that war before I wass against it!) OPEC is something we should have stayed away from many years ago. A conservative government uses its own resources; we had, and have, oil here but let the greenies run things and shut down drilling our own. If Bush II had persisted in ANWR, we could be using that fuel today.

50 posted on 03/17/2010 11:51:46 AM PDT by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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