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Maldonado: GOP canít just serve tacos and expect Latinos to sign up
Los Angeles Times / latimes.com ^ | March 13, 2010 | 4:51 pm | Michael Rothfeld in Santa Clara

Posted on 03/14/2010 1:01:27 AM PST by thecodont

State Sen. Abel Maldonado, the moderate Santa Maria Republican running for lieutenant governor, opened his speech to party convention delegates Saturday afternoon by acknowledging the discomfort many of them have with him for supporting new taxes, among other votes he has taken. When he walked into the room, he said, a delegate greeted him by saying, "Hey Abel, I think you're with the wrong party."

"And I looked at him, and I said, 'I'm not with the wrong party, I'm with the right party. Let me tell you why.' "

Maldonado, who spoke after the room had somewhat emptied following a speech by Senate candidate Carly Fiorina, retold an oft-told story about his father's journey from Mexico to the United States in 1963, penniless, and his success as a farmer thereafter. He used that tale to convey that Republicans need to better engage Latinos, saying their desire to get ahead is a more natural fit with the GOP, yet Latinos flock to the Democrats.

When his father arrived, he said, he picked a job line over a welfare line; had he picked welfare, he would have become a Democrat, Maldonado said, and he picked up the lesson. Maldonado recalled being asked by another Latino why he was a Republican. "You want to be poor?" he said he responded. "The other folks keep you poor."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: abelmaldonado; aholemaldonado; ca2010; california; doosh; gop; hispanicrepublicans; hispanicvote; immigration; latinos; maldonado; outreach; racistpuke; rino
"Maldonado faces the more conservative Sen. Sam Aanestad (R-Grass Valley) in a Republican primary."
1 posted on 03/14/2010 1:01:28 AM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont
Who cares? The only latinos we want in the party are those who have conservative values and who are patriotic Americans first.

And there are plenty of them, many having served in our armed forces.

2 posted on 03/14/2010 1:06:37 AM PST by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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No, my understanding is Maldonado had quesadillas (somebody can correct me if they atteneded the suite earlier) and a mariachi band in his hospitality suite. Abel, are you being a hypocrite or are you being the typical asshole you are? Probably both.

Abel, it has absolutely nothing to do with your ethnicity you stupid, condescending douche-bag. Take your Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson tactics and go take a hike you piece of garbage.

3 posted on 03/14/2010 1:11:27 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture ("Pragmatism": The battle cry of the cowardly and unprincipled)
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To: Candor7

“Who cares? The only latinos we want in the party are those who have conservative values and who are patriotic Americans first.”

The problem is that long-term demographics are starting to look ugly. A hell of a lot of illegals have been allowed to stay around far too long and have far too many citizen children. Those kids who are chocking our schools will be voting before long and they’ll be voting for the party who offers the biggest handouts.


4 posted on 03/14/2010 1:16:01 AM PST by DemonDeac
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To: DemonDeac

You raise a valid point. Whether we want to admit it or not, the long-term demographics do not favor whites and in many ways, do not bode well for the GOP.

There’s one immediate solution and that’s cracking on down on illegal immigration. I don’t think there’s much we can do about the illegals currently here. There’s too damned many of them for our govt to find ‘em all and deport ‘em. But we can and should do everything we can to prevent mnore of them from getting in.

In the article, a point was made by Abel Maldonado where he basically said to Hispanics “Hey, you wanna remain poor? Then keep voting for the Democrats”.

Somehow we have to get to the Hispanics that are out there and say “The GOP has a better way”. It will require a lot of money and effort and the short-term results probably won’t look good. An effort like this has to go on for many years.

But it’s gotta be clear “If you favor amnesty for those who break the law and if you want a complete bilingual society (ala Quebec), then we’re not the party for you. If you want freedom and the ability to set YOUR future, then come join us”.


6 posted on 03/14/2010 1:28:13 AM PST by MplsSteve
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To: RC one

I just wonder what would have happened to this fellow if he had said that you can’t just go out and throw a party and serve fried chicken and watermelon and Miller beer and get the black vote.


7 posted on 03/14/2010 1:30:49 AM PST by beckysueb (Scott Brown is a start. Lets keep it going.)
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To: DemonDeac
So? Let them vite for the handouts. Soon there won;t be any money for hand outs , then what will they do? Go out and work as they will have to.

Iam not for the big tent.I am for making sure that anyone who claims to be a Republican is not a liberal in disguise waiting for handouts form a Republican government.

The handouts have to stop and so do the promises to do them.

Most latinos who work are religious Roman Catholic conservatives. I do not buy your demographics at all.

8 posted on 03/14/2010 1:31:58 AM PST by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: thecodont

Maldonado can kiss my A$$ -
It is in the interest of all citizen to show up for the GOP!
Communism (read CommieCrate program) benefits the elite crooks and insiders, to the exclusion of all others!
To suggest that you have to bribe people to act in their own self interests is insane at the minimum!


9 posted on 03/14/2010 1:35:20 AM PST by J Edgar
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To: thecodont

The problem of course is that our lavish welfare state continues to remain a strong lure for far too many immigrants and illegals. These people come here for a handout, and there is no way they will EVER vote for a conservative.


10 posted on 03/14/2010 1:42:48 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Soooo...what do you REALLY think of this guy? :-)


11 posted on 03/14/2010 3:00:32 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: DemonDeac
Those kids who are chocking our schools will be voting before long and they’ll be voting for the party who offers the biggest handouts.

I am not even sure of that.
You seem to forget that when the Irish for example first came to New York, there were treated like dirt by the Anglos and called all kinds of names, and lived in pretty poor conditions. Heck even the later Irish arrivals were pounced upon by the earlier Irish arrivals. Today, the Irish Americans have pretty good standards of living in this country. The fact that one’s parents are poor doesn't necessarily mean one will be poor as well.
But yeah, as at now, and in the foreseeable future, most Latino's(like most blacks(), will continue to vote for the Democrats. Nothing is really going to change that, so we might as well follow solid conservative principles, without worrying pandering to one race or the other.

12 posted on 03/14/2010 3:33:35 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: thecodont

“GOP can’t just serve tacos and expect Latinos to sign up”

Heck no. The ILLEGALS want more than just tacos—they want amnesty and “free everything”. The legal immigrants are the ones looking for a better life and the OPPORTUNITY to make a better life in the US.


13 posted on 03/14/2010 3:41:35 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: thecodont
Geraldo Rivera was recently shoveling the same philosophy on some talk show; even with 50% out-of-wedlock birth rates, hispanics are basically social conservatives.

Of course, for Geraldo, Lenin and Trotsky look like conservatives.

14 posted on 03/14/2010 3:46:01 AM PDT by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: thecodont

Latinos (and Latinas) will not be won over to the GOP by stupid bows to the gods of Political Correctness.

They will relate to, Church. Mary. God. Family. And tradition.

And frankly the unapologetic embrace of that simple truth, what the French call: “vive la différence”.

Too bad, the GOP isn’t anymore - the party of all that...


15 posted on 03/14/2010 3:48:40 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: thecodont

Sorry dude but that horse has run out of the barn. The Hispanics voted for Obama 65% and will stay in the Democrat camp.


16 posted on 03/14/2010 4:31:48 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

65% is in play.

Far larger as a voting block, and far more likely to be won over, than stubbornly socialist Jewish-Americans. At 79% for Obama.

The GOP can win Hispanics.

But not by appealing to the least common denominator. Look at Mexico. There is a very simple, and ubiquitous respect for success.

Mexico (and by extention much of America’s Hispanic population) is not about illegal aliens.

It is about family, hard work and winning. And more than just a tiny bit, about Cojones.

An idea, the GOP would to well to ... LEARN.


17 posted on 03/14/2010 4:38:03 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: jmaroneps37

MOST hispanics and MOST blacks will vote for the party that GIVES them the most.

Hey, we’re running out of money to GIVE AWAY stuff... now what?

Could we give away watermelons for the black vote? What a stupid article.


18 posted on 03/14/2010 4:47:45 AM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: beckysueb

Mexicans aren’t as sensitive about stupid shiite like that.


19 posted on 03/14/2010 4:50:58 AM PDT by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: RC one

Give them time.


20 posted on 03/14/2010 5:49:10 AM PDT by beckysueb (Scott Brown is a start. Lets keep it going.)
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To: beckysueb

right.


21 posted on 03/14/2010 5:51:37 AM PDT by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: thecodont

Hmmm more hypocritical ethnic BS. Whites are supposed to be droids and represent all yet Hispanics, blacks and everyone else is supposed to embrace their ethnicity.

This will not end well for this nation in fact it will end the nation as we become more splintered and fractured. We are hurtling towards Bosnia...on steroids.


22 posted on 03/14/2010 5:55:57 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: thecodont
GOP can’t just serve tacos and expect Latinos to sign up

Damn straight. We're serving apple pie and we expect them to sign up.

23 posted on 03/14/2010 6:16:11 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: MplsSteve
long-term demographics do not favor whites and in many ways, do not bode well for the GOP.

Best to come to this forum prepared. Here are some details that might help lessen your embarrassment :

1) Whites (European Caucasians) and Asians are the fastest growing demographics in California.
2) Hispanics top Asians because of illegal immigration, principally from Mexico.
3) The influence of Catholicism nudges Mexico's Hispanics toward conservatism.
4) US culture, not native culture, tends immigrants toward socialism.

Next time, do the homework and then contribute.

24 posted on 03/14/2010 9:27:25 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: SmokingJoe

The Irish still trend Democrat though.


25 posted on 03/14/2010 11:45:34 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: Amerigomag

Listen clown, I am prepared. I see (along with a number of other people) the demographics do not favor whites in any stretch of the imagination.

Additionally, I never did say that US culture doesn’t play a part in indoctrinating immigrants towards socialism. It most certainly does.

My line of thinking is that instead of shooting out a load of verbal diarrhea by saying “...do the homework and then contribute”, use a little practicality and decency in trying to educate those of us who are allegedly less intelligent and prepared as you are.

You’ll go further in life.


26 posted on 03/14/2010 2:06:06 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve
Apparently the point was not made. Racially speaking, Mexicans are whites.

Suggesting a course in cultural anthropology would probably fall on deaf ears. Suggesting investigation of the terms race, culture and the recently termed liberal speaks; ethnicity and Latino would also promptly be rejected. I'm guessing a lot more comfort in the liberal web of ignorance.

27 posted on 03/17/2010 5:50:06 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

No, your point was made.

That point being that you’re a condescending ass. You didn’t have to work too hard to prove that.


28 posted on 03/17/2010 6:52:29 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve
That point being that you’re a condescending ass

Thank you.

Next time, leave the vitriol and ignorance at home, do the research before contributing and improve the quality and the image of this forum. There is small gain in the advancement of conservatism through ignorance and/or cultural bigotry.

29 posted on 03/17/2010 3:09:38 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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