Skip to comments.BREAKING: Healthcare Reform reconciliation bill is posted! 2300+ pages and includes student loan
Posted on 03/14/2010 7:48:42 PM PDT by conservativefunhouse
To provide for reconciliation pursuant to section 202 of the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2010.
2300+ pages and includes student loans. Happy reading...
(Excerpt) Read more at budget.house.gov ...
Whether illegals are covered now or not, the democrats will try to get them in under amnesty, or some judicial activists will get them covered with a series of court decisions.
Thanks for the post. I read the 4 ways to spend money a couple of months ago. I was thinking the same thing you were, but you beat me to the post. Nice Job.
I see. Thanks for the info.
“I pray that these traitors spend Eternity in Hell together.”
We may have to speed up the process.
Could you find out a wordsearch on the word “SHALL”??
I was told that “SHALL” is the BAD word which more or less means “YOU WILL BE REQUIRED BY LAW IF THIS PASSES”.
Sure, and thanks for all you have done.
Pelosicare and the Public Option are back
Bend over America, its gonna hurt.
“Joe Wilson was telling the truth.”
We're gonna be a freaking tower of Babel. Divide and conquer.
I just started to look at a few pages and they are FULL of “shall”-s, as in a dozen per page.
It’s going to be really bad.
It also includes the Public Option!
Much appreciate it.
Problem is, too many people - never mind the politicos they elected - don’t care about the Constitution or think it’s relevant.
I have rope and plenty of oak trees...
Thanks Diogenesis for the ping.
Here it is:
Great. Now one must attend “healthy living” classes at work IN ADDITION to “Tolerance” and “Diversity Training”.
This is actually the “shell” bill that Paul Ryan warned about:
the Dems would ram through the Budget Committee, who would send it to the Rules Committee. At that point, the Rules Committee will strip out all of the language in the phantom bill, and insert the changes to the Senate bill that Democrats have negotiated. to use as a vehicle to impose national health care.
This is the first step in the convoluted process the Dems are using to force through ObamaCare.
Indeed they are. This HAS to be a record length for a Reconciliation Bill, a point which I'm sure (I hope) the GOP will drive home in the coming days.
If the public option is really in there, as a few have claimed, this will signal an EPIC showdown, as such a provision will surely be struck by the Senate parliamentarian. The question becomes, will it be reinstalled by Biden.
“it is designed to get rid of choices.”
True to liberal communists.
The only “CHOICE” they’re interested in is the “choice” to kill an innocent baby.
Well, OK, also the choice to kill off inconvenient sick people, via “euthanasia”.
Those “old” people in the econ textbooks and history books, like our founding fathers are actually pretty cool and wise.
They were rebels and bad asses.
I hope the younger generation realizes that. They get their info from the web instead of the NY Times. I think they will.
Right. So no one should waste a lot of time parsing this bill. It will all be gutted and replaced with who knows what.
COMPREHENSIVE PRIMARY HEALTH SERVICES.
The term comprehensive primary health services means the core services offered by SBHCs, which shall include the following:
PHYSICAL.Comprehensive health assessments, diagnosis, and treatment of minor, acute, and chronic medical conditions and referrals to, and follow-up for, specialty care.
MENTAL HEALTH.Mental health assessments, crisis intervention, counseling, treatment, and referral to a continuum of services including emergency psychiatric care, community support programs, inpatient care, and outpatient programs.
OPTIONAL SERVICES.Additional services, which may include oral health, social, and age-appropriate health education services, including nutritional counseling.
Looks like Planned Parenthood and Kevin Jennings type "age-appropriate health education services" are coming to a school near all of us if this passes. Oh yeah...and it looks like they will be screening kids for "mental illness" too.
It is HEALTH CONTROL and little extra.
as Philip Klein explains (http://twitter.com/philipaklein) “They’re using this old bill because under recon rules, they need a bill that was sent to budget cte by Oct. 15, 2009.”
I’ll second the wish that all who vote for such an evil thing, spend eternity in Hell paying for their evil deeds.
Abortion is NOT healthcare! It is murder.
I agree. Econ is a lot like Math and biology. There are basic rules and laws that ring true throughout the universe. Screw up a rule in math and you flunk a test. Screw up a rule in econ and you mess up an economy. The "old" guys understood that.
They've posted the Reconciliation bill, which by Constitutional requirement, MUST originate in the House. The House is readying to pass this Reconciliation bill which would then "deem" the original Senate bill (H.R. 3590). Once H.R. 3590 passes, it will be sent to the President for his signature.
This reconciliation bill would then need to be passed by the Senate, and then sent to the President.
They are two separate bills H.R. 3590, the original Senate bill and this Reconciliation Bill (HR number yet unknown).
These people are crazy.
God doesn’t take sides in this kind of thing.
BTW, it is also my understanding that if there are changes it's got to go back to the Senate.
Of course the communists may just make up another "rule" just like the "Virtual Vote" rule...
They went Nuke. This is now my personal war to throw them all out.
I don’t think those are the kind of Republican ideas that should be included.
Of course not, just ask those who voted to keep slavery legal, or those German lawmakers that voted for the Nuremberg laws that lead to the final solution.
No, God keeps out of these matters.
Evil “Chloroform in print” ping.
Ok. Dumb this down to my level......if the house passes this bill, it has to go through the Senate first. If the House had passed the bill straight out of the Senate, then it would go straight to the president’s desk. So by posting this bill it’s good news, because there’s still the Senate to get through.
"The House is readying to pass this Reconciliation bill which would then "deem" the original Senate bill (H.R. 3590) passed (by the House)"
We have all been paying deductions into Medicare each week since LBJ/mid-60’s days
Now Obama and the radical democrats tell us they must cut all Medicare yearly by 50% - have a trillion buckeroos a year
To pay for illegal aliens and for healthy 14 year old boys to have abortions
Transexuals will be getting in on this as well as homosexual partners
This is an endless eternal exploding scam
It and “SIMULOUS” will be used to fund democrat campaigns, ACORN, Americorps, La Raza, MEchA, Planned Parenthood abortions (by using a different fed agency not now covered by bans on the fed funding of abortions)
is that the Slaughter rule? That something is deemed passed with no actual vote on it?
IIRC, one of the bills (either house or senate) had over 3,000 “Shalls”.
I sort of disagree.
Economics is a behavioral social study. It’s not an exact science.
Math and biology is an exact science. 2 +2 is always 4.
Unless the scientists get gubmint cheese and grant money, in which case they will cook the books and tell you that 2 + 2 means we are all going to die in a great big ball of fire unless you give us billions of dollars to save you from global warming/cooling/climate change/re runs of American Idol or anything else bad.
Heck, it’s a living.
I need clarification. I understand it to be that the original Senate bill will be deemed passed when the new House bill becomes law. Is that correct? I still don't like the "deemed" part but it would buy us some time to fight it.
An idea at least of what might be going on..... who knows....
I swiped this from GailA
Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts.
PLEASE CALL! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE State District
Code Red - House Target List on Health Care
The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obamas announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the fixer bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.
Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)
Bumping what you said. I was at a rally Michele Bachmann spoke at on Saturday. Sounds like they’re muddling everything the Constitution requires such as an aye or nay vote. I hate these liars.
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Why’s this in “hc reform bill”?: “SEC343.ADVISORY COUNCIL ON GREEN, HIGH-PERFORMING PUBLIC SCHOOL[s]” p2227
Let me preface this by saying - this is what the Dems intend to do. I'm not saying this is Constitutional or will pass parliamentary muster, just that these are their intentions...
They've posted their proposed Reconciliation Bill. This bill will have to make it through the House Ways & Means (or perhpas finance, I'm not sure) comittee. Then, after some changes are presumably made, it will be brought to the House floor without debate, for an up or down vote - that is within the power of the Speaker. This reconciliation bill, when it comes to the House floor, will contain - in theory - a self-executing rule that will deem the original Senate Health Care bill passed by the House when the Reconciliation Bill is passed. That original health care bill (H.R. 3590) will then travel to the president's desk.
In the meantime, this Reconciliation bill will travel to the Senate where it will go through the Reconciliation Bill. After they clear the blood from the Parliamentarian's office, the Senate will vote on this Reconciliation Bill, and it will then be sent to the President for his signature. With it's passing and signing into law, the Reconciliation Bill make - again, in theory - changes to the original Senate bill (H.R. 3590), that the House liberal Democrats didn't like - like the Cadillac Tax, for instance.
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