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The Health Care "Shell" Game Begins
The American Spectator ^ | 3.15.10 | Philip Klein

Posted on 03/15/2010 4:54:44 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

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To: onyx

Yes .. and I don’t get why the Pubs
are voting yea.


61 posted on 03/15/2010 3:55:05 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE

Frantic to find out,came back in & heard ‘something’ was agreed to


62 posted on 03/15/2010 4:09:03 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: JustPiper

Suspension of the Rules .. Agreement to Amendment .. not
sure which amendment, though.

http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx


63 posted on 03/15/2010 4:30:10 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: BarnacleCenturion; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; ...
BarnacleCenturion posted the following in #1:

The public option seems to be back.  From page 1167 of the bill.

Subtitle B—Public Health Insurance Option

SEC. 221. ESTABLISHMENT AND ADMINISTRATION OF A PUBLIC HEALTH INSURANCE OPTION AS AN EXCHANGE-QUALIFIED HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN.

(a) ESTABLISHMENT.—For years beginning with Y1,  the Secretary of Health and Human Services (in this subtitle referred to as the ‘‘Secretary’’) shall provide for the offering of an Exchange-participating health benefits plan (in this subdivision referred to as the ‘‘public health insurance option’’) that ensures choice, competition, and stability of affordable, high quality coverage throughout the United States in accordance with this subtitle. In designing the option, the Secretary’s primary responsibility is to create a low-cost plan without compromising quality or access to care.

 

'RAT B@stards!

64 posted on 03/15/2010 5:26:42 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We have to pass the bill first so you can find out what's in it." - Nancy Pelosi, March 2010)
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To: Dog; Lazamataz; nutmeg

That will change Kucinich’s vote from NO to yes.


65 posted on 03/15/2010 5:28:19 PM PDT by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
blue dog democrat
66 posted on 03/15/2010 5:39:26 PM PDT by Daryl L.Hunter (Barack Obama is the Grim Reaper)
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To: nutmeg

The shell game began the day BO/BS entered the oval office.


68 posted on 03/15/2010 5:45:44 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: nutmeg; Candor7; sheik yerbouty; Free ThinkerNY; Windflier; ZULU; rodguy911; freekitty; unkus; ...

RATs wiping their treasonous rectums on “OUR” Constitution. Vote accordingly in November and again in 2012. Clean the cesspool that is this government.

I can’t say this enough times. Sorry to keep repeating myself. The only words I have for these traitors is profanity so I will let you guess my thoughts.

I can assure you that my father, a veteran of WWII and the Korean War, is rolling in his grave. Thank God, he’s not here to see this tyranny against his beloved country.

We have disgraced America’s founders and America’s Greatest Generation by not standing up as they did when our country was being attacked. This time our country is being destroyed from within in my opinion. What do you think?

Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and the rest of the thugs involved in this disgrace have earned the disdain of the American people and may that stigma follow them forever.


69 posted on 03/15/2010 5:49:05 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: JustPiper

Thanks. Consider it done.


70 posted on 03/15/2010 6:40:59 PM PDT by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: nutmeg; All
Here's a new alert, tactics and talking points of the leftists:

Breaking News!!!

As many of you know, activists are once again coming to DC to flood the halls of Congress tomorrow. They want to have their voices heard by their elected officials.

This afternoon, the Office of the Assistant to Speaker Nancy Pelosi circulated the following email to Freshman and Sophomore Democratic members of Congress advising them how to deal with all of the visitors to their offices tomorrow.

They know we are coming, so make the most of the visits tomorrow!


From: Thornell, Doug [mailto:Doug.Thornell@mail.house.gov]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:25 PM
To: Thornell, Doug
Subject: Tea Party Etiquette

TO: Freshman and Sophomore House Democrats

FROM: Office of the Assistant to the Speaker

DATE: March 15, 2010

RE: Tea Party Etiquette

As many of you have read, tomorrow, Tuesday, March 16, 2010, tens of thousands of conservative and Tea Party activists will be on the Hill as part of what they are dubbing a "Surge Against Obamacare." Rick Scott, a multimillionaire investor and former hospital executive, is helping to lead the grassroots effort along with a number of other groups on the right like Dick Armey's FreedomWorks. While many of you have met with outspoken activists in your districts in the past, we wanted to remind you of some of the best practices to review with your DC staff:

1. Be prepared. Activists are expected to begin arriving around 9am and they have been given instructions to wait in your office until they can have a meeting. Please have an orderly process and enough staff and interns to welcome what could be a very large number of visitors throughout the day:

· Have staff and/or Member time set-aside to visit with attendees in small groups;

· Ask for extra chairs or seating to be brought to your office or the hall in case there are seniors or disabled visitors that need to be accommodated;

· Consider having some light snacks, H2O, and coffee available;

· Ask visitors to leave all signs and banners outside the office.

2. Prioritize listening to your constituents:

· Have multiple guest books/comment sheets available for all visitors to sign-in and leave comments - we recommend you have one for residents of your district, one for residents of your state (but not your district), and one for out-of-state visitors. Have a Capitol Directory and map available to direct visitors to their Member of Congress and written instructions on how to get over to the Senate side of the Hill.

· There is limited rationale for your Member to meet with out-of-district constituents, especially if you already had other business or meetings previously scheduled with constituents who had planned to visit with you tomorrow on other topics. It is up to individual offices to decide if staff would like to take these meetings.

3. Listen and communicate in small groups:

· As we learned in August, small groups are typically the best venue for exchanges on this complicated topic.

· Many of the conservative activists are not opposing the actual provisions in the bill, but are instead reacting to a caricature of the reform bill presented by right-wing media outlets. In fact, many conservative and GOP ideas and concerns are addressed in the legislation:

ü Reduces the deficit;

ü Cracks down on Medicare waste, fraud, and abuse;

ü Provides historic tax credit for small businesses and individuals to purchase health insurance;

ü Allows consumers to shop for health insurance across state lines via multi-state compacts;

ü Inaugurates medical malpractice reforms, (an area where the GOP failed to take any action when in charge of Congress for 12 years).

· Also, don't assume common myths about this bill have been debunked. Be prepared to explain that there are no death panels, that Medicare is in fact strengthened, and that reform is not a government take-over, but it is an attempt to crack down on the abusive practices of health insurance companies by providing oversight and increasing competition.

· Finally, work to establish common-ground with visitors by ensuring they are aware and supportive of the important changes that will take place immediately:

ü Offer tax credits to small businesses to purchase coverage;

ü Prohibit pre-existing condition exclusions for children in all new plans;

ü Provide immediate access to insurance for uninsured Americans who are uninsured because of a pre-existing condition through a temporary high-risk pool;

ü Prohibit dropping people from coverage when they get sick in all individual plans;

ü Eliminate lifetime limits and restrictive annual limits on benefits in all plans;

ü Require premium rebates to enrollees from insurers with high administrative expenditures and require public disclosure of the percent of premiums applied to overhead costs;

ü Ensure consumers have access to an effective internal and external appeals process to appeal new insurance plan decisions;

ü Require plans to cover an enrollee's dependent children until age 26;

ü Require new plans to cover preventive services and immunizations without cost-sharing;

ü Relief on the Donut Hole.

If you have any questions, please let us know.


Please circulate this information and get it posted to Facebook, Twitter, blogs, etc.


Thanks,
Amy Kremer
678.495.8271

Tea Party Express , Director Grassroots & Coalitions (teapartyexpress.org)
American Grassroots Coalition, Co-Founder (americangrassrootscoalition.org)

I checked out Doug Thornell and I couldn't find him associated with Pelosi, but rather he is spokesman for Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD), the sixth-ranking Democrat in the House.

That's good enough for me!

71 posted on 03/15/2010 7:13:56 PM PDT by Syncro (TPXIII coming soon! March 27th to April 15th 2010)
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To: Syncro

Stupek was just on Greta and said that their are 200 votes for.
They don’t have the votes.


72 posted on 03/15/2010 7:17:02 PM PDT by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: Syncro

Thanks for the info. Let’s go!


73 posted on 03/15/2010 7:19:10 PM PDT by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: RedMDer

Well I don’t believe any of them, we will keep fighting until it goes down in flames!

No need to stop the pressure just because a politician says they don’t have the votes

Besides, they don’t need to vote (they can just make it law with pixie dust) they say so we need to invoke the Constitution on them in a mighty way!


74 posted on 03/15/2010 7:19:46 PM PDT by Syncro (TPXIII coming soon! March 27th to April 15th 2010)
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To: Syncro

Right.


75 posted on 03/15/2010 7:22:31 PM PDT by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: GailA

Thank you for posting that list. It can’t be posted enough.
I swiped it and posted as well.
Thanks!


76 posted on 03/15/2010 7:30:42 PM PDT by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: GailA

Call Bart Stupak and thank him for standing strong.

(989) 356 0690
(906) 875 3751
(906) 786 4504
(906) 482 1371
(906) 228 3700
(231) 348 0657
(989) 345 2258

http://www.house.gov/stupak/contact0507.shtml


77 posted on 03/15/2010 7:40:37 PM PDT by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: azishot

Thank you FRiend :)


78 posted on 03/15/2010 7:44:19 PM PDT by JustPiper (Obamacare ONGOING THREAD ~http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1026#1026~)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Those who control the 175+/- ABA approved law schools control the future of America. They’s mighty leftist these days, folks...


79 posted on 03/15/2010 9:44:34 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: sam_paine

100k extremely pissed off people......yeah......I can see moving to that step.


80 posted on 03/16/2010 12:22:11 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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