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Nazi Medicine and Public Health
ADL ^ | This article originally appeared in Dimensions, Vol 10, No 2, 1996 | Robert Proctor

Posted on 03/15/2010 6:21:55 AM PDT by Marty62

The Moral Failure of German Medicine

The complicity of German physicians in the Nazis' crimes against humanity is a well-established historical fact. Explaining that fact is far more difficult. Why were German doctors such avid fans of fascism? Why did nearly half of all German physicians join the Nazi party?

I don't think it was the tirades of Julius Streicher in Der Stürmer that attracted their interest, but rather the promises of Nazi leaders to solve Germany's problems medically, surgically. The Nazi state was supposed to be a hygienic state; Nazism was supposed to be "applied biology" (Fritz Lenz coined this phrase in 1931). Hitler was celebrated as the "great doctor" of German society and as the "Robert Koch of politics" (Koch was a nineteenth century pioneer in studying the bacterial origin of diseases). The seductive power of National Socialism for many physicians lay in its promise to cleanse German society of its corrupting elements -- not just communism and Jews, but also metallic lead and addictive tobacco, along with homosexuality and the "burdensome" mentally ill.

Biology was another field that thrived. Ute Deichmann in her book, Biologists Under Hitler (Harvard University Press, 1996), shows that the majority of biologists in the Thirties and early Forties joined the Nazi party; but it was still quite possible for non-Nazi biologists to obtain grants from the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft, Germany's leading scientific grant agency. Not only possible but easy: Deichmann discovered that there was no correlation at all between a researcher receiving a grant and whether that researcher belonged to the Nazi party. I would argue that biology prospered under the Nazis because it was so integral to their worldview. Apart from the reasons

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KEYWORDS: adl; helathcare; obamacare
Although I found this paper a thinly veiled attempt to downplay the similarities of Nazi Health Care and todays arguements against Nationalized healthcare.

The questions I had regarding the subversion of an entire civilized nation to accept the atrocities of the Third Reich are in small ways addressed by this article. He mentions that the Nazi's didn't invent the medical system. It had been developed by the previous regime.

Isn't this the path we are on.

In developing a NATIONALIZE HealthCare System the inherant danger is the ease which abuse is not only possible, but is the natural outcome of such a system.

On a previous thread, the workplace "guidelines" are addressed. That process is pure Fascism dressed up in "for your own good" authoritarianism.

I find this authors excusing of the Nazi medical practices troubling, especially coming from the ADL. But should give everyone an idea as to how deeply entrenched the practices of the Fascist have permeated our society.

1 posted on 03/15/2010 6:21:55 AM PDT by Marty62
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To: Marty62

The problem arose from Darwinism and the notion of viewing your neighbor as a meat byproduct of random processes, rather than as a fellow child of God. There is no logical basis for morality under such a system.

2 posted on 03/15/2010 6:32:07 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Marty62

exactly....and i dont see anyway to stop it.

3 posted on 03/15/2010 6:32:27 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: wendy1946

Exactly. You notice the one MAJOR issue NOT addressed in the Obamacare Bill is MEDICAL ETHICS.

4 posted on 03/15/2010 6:36:54 AM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Marty62; ExTexasRedhead

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts. Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.


Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

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5 posted on 03/15/2010 6:42:17 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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The good doctors...the good lawyers...the good judges....

All the first tools of the Nazi death machine...

6 posted on 03/15/2010 6:43:17 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Crim

Yep, insidious and pure evil.

7 posted on 03/15/2010 7:11:46 AM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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