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House Democrats Short on Health Care Votes, Clyburn Says
Fox News ^ | 3/15/2010

Posted on 03/15/2010 6:44:31 AM PDT by Lazamataz

House Democratic leaders still do not have enough votes to pass health care reform, the chamber's top vote counter said, even though the administration is aiming to have the bill passed this week.

The reality check came from Rep. James Clyburn, the House Democratic whip.

"No, we don't have them as of this morning, but we've been working this thing all weekend," Clyburn, D-S.C., said.

But despite the challenge of corralling wavering Democrats, Clyburn joined with other Democratic officials in saying he was confident the measure would pass, echoing comments from Speaker Nancy Pelosi Saturday.

Democratic leaders want the House to pass the Senate-approved version of the bill, before moving on to a package of changes. That package, which is already under consideration, would be taken up in the Senate as a "reconciliation" bill, meaning the Senate would be able to approve it with just 51 votes -- Democrats turned to the legislative tactic after Republican Scott Brown won the Massachusetts Senate election in January, breaking the party's 60-vote filibuster-proof majority.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: democrats; obamacare; socialisthealthcare
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1 posted on 03/15/2010 6:44:31 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz

Don’t believe anything from a Dim.... either way...

2 posted on 03/15/2010 6:46:29 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Lazamataz

Pray they dont pass it....and Pray that more good americans run for office at every level....

3 posted on 03/15/2010 6:46:34 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Lurking in Kansas

They don’t need the votes. They are going to put it in place with a sham and no vote.

4 posted on 03/15/2010 6:49:26 AM PDT by Ingtar (Reckon the process will be silly - Reckonsilliation)
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To: Lurking in Kansas
Don’t believe anything from a Dim.... either way...

Amen. Don't even read or listen to what they say. It's not worth an honest person's time.

5 posted on 03/15/2010 6:49:47 AM PDT by Need4Truth (We can't afford the empire or the entitlements.)
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To: Lazamataz
Page 2241 of the House Bill contain “green building requirements”. It has nothing to do with healthcare and it refers to the Energy Dept for enforcement.
6 posted on 03/15/2010 6:51:54 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: GailA

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts. Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.


Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)

Congressional Dems on Twitter

And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.
At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.

When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!

We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!
1-800-828-0498 , 1-866-220-0044, 1-866-338-1015, 877-851-6437, 877-210-5351

7 posted on 03/15/2010 6:52:14 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: Lazamataz


Oct. 09 “We have the votes”

Nov. 09 “We have the votes”

Dec. 09 “ We have the votes”

Jan. 10 “ We have the votes”

Feb. 10 “ We have the votes”

Mar. 10 “ We have the votes”

Mar. 2020 (GOD) “ I have the vote”

8 posted on 03/15/2010 6:52:15 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Lazamataz

I see two options for the Dems... and I don’t think they know which they’ll choose to use.

1) pass the senate’s bill, have 0bama sign it, then to reconciliation to change it to make the House happy.

but... i don’t think they’ll be able to change it w/ reconcilation b/c the senate doesn’t want to change it and repubs don’t want them to use reconciliation and blow up the senate - hell dems don’t want to let loose the reconcilation monster b/c they’ll be minority real soon. So, I don’t think the bill will be changed if the house passes it.

2) the slaugher thing - this is the scariest IMO b/c it means the dems and 0bama are actually willing to simply “take over” the country. This is 0bama’s Chavez move and must be met with extreme opposition - like asking the military to take him and/or pelosi/ried into custody.

Nothing good is going to happen this week. Either the bill doesn’t pass and they try the slaughter take-over or the bill passes and we’re stuck w/ the senate bill.

I suppose we could campaign on overturning it - and we’d get lots and lots of non-dems elected ... but would we overturn it?

9 posted on 03/15/2010 6:53:02 AM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Mar. 2020 (GOD) “ I have the vote”

On Pelosi's headstone: "I had the votes!"

10 posted on 03/15/2010 6:53:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Proudly hittin' it without looking at the picture since 1999.)
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To: Lazamataz

Don’t beleive him. All they so is lie and deceive.

11 posted on 03/15/2010 6:53:30 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Lazamataz

Send the following wise John Adams statement to the Congressmen and Senators on the target list, along with the question:

"Do you save the President, or do you save "the People's" liberty for generations to come?"

"Found in: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, vol. 4 (Novanglus, Thoughts on Government, Defence of the Constitution) - NO. III. - paragraph 144

"Obsta principiis (translation: resist the beginnings), nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers, and destroyers press upon them so fast, that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon the American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour. The revenue creates pensioners, and the pensioners urge for more revenue. The people grow less steady, spirited, and virtuous, the seekers more numerous and more corrupt, and every day increases the circles of their dependents and expectants, until virtue, integrity, public spirit, simplicity, and frugality, become the objects of ridicule and scorn, and vanity, luxury, foppery, selfishness, meanness, and downright venality swallow up the whole society."

12 posted on 03/15/2010 6:54:07 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Lurking in Kansas

“Don’t believe anything from a Dim.... either way...”

Call, call, call, call - and protest and SCREAM: - big protest tomorrow in DC and everywhere around the States.

To call:

13 posted on 03/15/2010 6:54:28 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Thank you ExTexasRedhead!

14 posted on 03/15/2010 6:55:17 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Lazamataz

15 posted on 03/15/2010 6:56:27 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem)
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To: Principled

Once there is a bill that bambi signs, that will be it. No reconciliation or anything else. No more talk about it, just more taxes for us and loss of our own healthcare system as we know it. We are stuck with it and then he’ll move on to cram an immigration bill down our throats.

16 posted on 03/15/2010 6:57:57 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Lazamataz

Keep the pressure on these Dims. Don’t let up a nanosecond. Not until the vote happens. I won’t even believe Stupak until he votes. This should be a lesson however. No matter how conservative a blue dog sounds on the campaign trail, when push comes to shove they will vote with their party. Party first, principles second.

17 posted on 03/15/2010 6:59:09 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Don’t forget Gibbs famous line - by next Sunday Obamacare will be the law of the land.

18 posted on 03/15/2010 7:05:16 AM PDT by Mr. Wright ( in)
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To: Lazamataz

At this point they do not have a pot to p*ss in.

They are trying to intimidate us into letting them pass this thing. At this point it will not pass. This is going down.

The only thing they are praying for is that we can be intimidated into rolling over.

19 posted on 03/15/2010 7:07:35 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: Lazamataz

If we can beat this thing back, government healthcare will likely be dead for the forseeable future. Never again will the stars align for Democrats in this fashion. The clock is running out....


20 posted on 03/15/2010 7:11:23 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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