Posted on 03/15/2010 10:45:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz
Rep. John Boccieri, Ohio-16 Rep. Jason Altmire, PA-4 Rep. Barty Gordon, Tenn-6 Rep. Brian Baird, WA-3
Checkmate?
How did they change their mind? HOW. I want to know!!! Im so pissed tears are welling up in my eyes.
Neutered Blue Dogs. They only vote with their constituents when they have permission from Nancy.
Amazing what a few bastards will do for a few bucks. I wonder what these scum were promised in order to sell their souls to the devil
More blackmail at the ready?
Some of these people need to review the history of Romania in 1989.
What do they need now ? 1 more vote
Let’s face it. We knew this would happen.
They drag this out til the tortured victims give in.
Boccieri refused to go to the Obama rally today and now he is a yes vote? I believe Clyburn a lot more than Pelosi, but that seems hard to believe.
The Ohio rat must have received a bribe. Zero was there today.
Some folks are in the bag ... me thinks they protested too much. Just to throw their constituents of the scent.
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I knew Altmire would change his vote. I suspect he was one of Nancy Pelosis votes she had in her backpocket the last time. The Tea party here in Western Pa are on him hard right now. We’ll continue to work on him. We’ve already met with him in Washington earlier this week and have a protest planned outside his local office here. Needless to say his phone line has been burning up.
some Tea Party people here in PA met with Altmire last week and came away convinced that he had decided to flip to Yes
No. They still need a dozen, perhaps a few more.
dems will lose for years to come.
if only we could undo it AND a bunch more... maybe this will be our chance.
THIS IS JUST A TEA PARTY EMAIL but it does cite a very accurate inside source.
Baird isn’t running for re-election. I’d like to know what sort of job he was promised to get him to flip his vote.
the only one troubling there is Altmire. none of those 4 are considered to be part of the 214 NO’s that some counters have on their list. They need to switch a lot of NO’s and hold dozens of YES’s.
Actually, if I were a Rat looking for cover, I would tell everyone I was voting yes but then vote no.
Ok.
The Hill is not reporting them as changed yet. What is the source?
I have no idea, but it will probably pass, and when it does, I guess I need to learn how to speak with a British accent since America will officially become Europe now. I can’t believe what I am seeing, what is happening to my country
Does someone have a call script that I use? I will start calling this afternoon. It’s easier if I have the words in front of me. I can also pass it along to others.
Thanks.
Seriously, folks! Anyone not seeing this coming is an idiot. It is going to pass in some form or another, only to be *adjusted* at a later time. And there will not be any large scale reaction to them passing ObamaCare. And Obama’s poll numbers will fly through the roof.
stunned to see the name. I have to ask however. Why release names that will then be subject to further pressure? That sort of rings false to me.
Firedoglake, a VERY liberal site, has a good running whip count. It may be found here. It still shows them more than a dozen short, even with Clayburn's latest additions.
If this thing goes the House of Representatives should have its name changed to the 'Best Little Whorehouse in D.C.'.
you and me both
the Catholic Bishops chime in, many days late and millions of dollars short
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2471430/posts
Western PA is a very heavily Catholic area. Altmire really will be jumping off the cliff here.
So, who’s going to Washington tomorrow? Angry mob on the Capitol Steps at noon?
The Democratic party went from being the party of John F. Kennedy to....umm
I think their politics are in line with Lee Harvey Oswald now !
If they do that, they might as well make an announcement to switch parties after they vote no. Unless they want a butt naked Rham Emmanuel pointing fingers into their chests in the shower...
Did your cat tell you to say that?
They got special deals. Unlike the Louisiana Purchase and the Nebraska kickback, we won’t know the content of these offers.
This needs to be the very loud response by Republicans.
Whatever deal you have cut, we are going to find out about it.
We are going to expose you and publicly humiliate you.
Whatever you were promised will not receive dime one of funding once we take the majority.
That's why I would do it.
If this is indeed credible, it should be sent to drudge. He’ll put it up there and get some real heat going on these clowns...
Baird was no blue dog. He’s a marxist
Could become indies.
Call all 4 of them and tell the Communist pigs they’re politically done.
Bart Gordon’s staff is not answering the phones. They must be getting an ear full.
Where the hell are the Republicans! Ive heard NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING.
Ever wonder what it would be like to live in an alternative universe? Wonder no more.
All prostitutes have their price.
Here is a list to call:
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profiles/blogs/code-red-red-alert-operation
I have no idea what happened to the Democratic party but they became the Progressive party. They have been taken over by Progressives, its like a cancer. This is what they have always wanted, full control over every aspect of our lives. Not only our lives but according to the bill, our pets lives too. I read last night this bill also involves Vets
Carrot = Blank check for your favorite pet projects.
Stick = FBI...We know the address of your family...We have transcripts of all your phone calls, emails, pillow talk, text messages, inner-most thoughts, visits to the confessional....
Both Baird and Gordon are retiring. These YES votes were expected.
Boccieri is not as yet a YES.
Altmire has been leaning yes for weeks.
Keep fighting.
Raw totals on the flip:
Definite YES:
191 Democrats.
Definite NO:
178 Republicans, including Joseph Cao (R-LA), who voted Yes in November. Hes in the Stupak bloc.
Definite NO:
25 Democrats.
20 Democrats who voted No in November:
Bobby Bright, Mike McIntyre, Stephanie Herseth Sandlin, Walt Minnick, Artur Davis, Chet Edwards, Frank Kratovil, Mike Ross, Dan Boren, Gene Taylor, Larry Kissell, Dennis Kucinich, Collin Peterson, Ike Skelton, Jim Marshall, Mike McMahon, Charlie Melancon, Tim Holden, Ben Chandler, Health Shuler.
5 Democrats who voted Yes in November (confirmed Stupak bloc):
Bart Stupak, Marion Berry, Dan Lipinski, Kathy Dahlkemper, Joe Donnelly.
17 potential Democratic No-Yes flip votes:
6 lean Yes:
Jason Altmire, Bart Gordon, Brian Baird, John Boccieri (Clyburn Four), Scott Murphy, Betsy Markey
7 possible:
Glenn Nye, John Tanner, Suzanne Kosmas, John Adler, Lincoln Davis, Jim Matheson, Harry Teague.
4 less possible:
Travis Childers, John Barrow, Allen Boyd, Rick Boucher.
20 potential Yes-No flip votes:
5 additional Stupak bloc (Stupak-curious):
Steve Driehaus, Brad Ellsworth, Marcy Kaptur, Jerry Costello, Henry Cuellar.
15 other wary Democrats:
Mike Arcuri, Zack Space, Chris Carney, Mike Doyle, Paul Kanjorski (lean yes), Ann Kirkpatrick, Alan Mollohan, Nick Rahall, Dan Maffei, Bill Owens, Baron Hill, Solomon Ortiz, Gabrielle Giffords, Earl Pomeroy, Tim Bishop.
Democrats need 25 of a combination of the 17 potential No-Yes flip votes and the 20 potential Yes-No flip votes. So they need 25 out of the remaining uncommitted 37.
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