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Clyburn reports four Congressional 'No' votes convert to 'Yes'
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Posted on 03/15/2010 10:45:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz

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To: Truth29

The Ceausescu termination would be very fitting for these ‘rats.


101 posted on 03/15/2010 11:31:55 AM PDT by izzatzo
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To: Lazamataz

I don’t believe Bart Gordon was ever a No vote. Last week on local radio it was reported that he has been offered a position w/ the Science and Technology Center in DC. He’s already announced he was retiring. I think the job offer was payback for a YES vote. I know folks here in Middle TN never thought he would actually vote how his constituents are asking. He’s always been a NO in my opinion.


102 posted on 03/15/2010 11:31:55 AM PDT by CheathamCountyTN
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To: Lazamataz

Maybe waterboarding is legal if the rat is a congressman, but not as a terrorista.


103 posted on 03/15/2010 11:31:56 AM PDT by Bobby_Taxpayer
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To: kacres

I heard earlier that the Republicans will run on repealing this Bill if it passes and that they will use whatever process the ‘Rats used to pass it to repeal it. I presume that means if they use Reconciliation, that’s what the ‘pubs will use.


104 posted on 03/15/2010 11:33:10 AM PDT by GoldwaterChick (We Snowflakes will always remember our beloved Snowman with the incandescent smile.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Clyburn’s trying to force some hands here, although it’s possible they flipped.

One reason for the deadline is that they want to force those who are posturing for goodies to give it up and get on board.

I wonder how many of these 4 were sputtering maybes when badgered by Clyburn and he figures if he publically says they’re on board, they’ll be too cowardly to contradict him.


105 posted on 03/15/2010 11:34:08 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: RWGinger

Good for you
all you need to do is ask how “MY congressman. woman is voting”
they won’t tell you of course
then say that you expect theRep to vote AGAINST it and to work on a New Good bill if he/ she wants to be reelected

remember to block your number
and have a city with zip code in their district handy. They will ask for your address but you don’t need to give it,
just tell them you are a constitutent

89 posted on Monday, March 15, 2010 2:18:57 PM by RWGinger

=== *** === ***

Some offices won’t accept blocked calls. I go to Superpages.com, put in a name like “Brown” or “Kraft” then a city of that representative.

Pick a name, get a street, a zip and a phone number.

Sometimes when I call, they say, “you’re calling from Florida”?

I say, “yes, I am. I’m visiting family. I can’t even go on vacation and you guys are trying to grab our liberties forever and I’m so angry.” Then I give them a name and some form of a phone number in their area.

I figure, this is stinkin war and I WANT TO WIN !!!


106 posted on 03/15/2010 11:34:11 AM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: CatOwner

“Seriously, folks! Anyone not seeing this coming is an idiot. It is going to pass in some form or another, only to be *adjusted* at a later time. And there will not be any large scale reaction to them passing ObamaCare. And Obama’s poll numbers will fly through the roof.”

And I’m going to win Powerball and Mega Millions!


107 posted on 03/15/2010 11:34:52 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: RWGinger

thank you...and plz check your FReep mail.


108 posted on 03/15/2010 11:37:32 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (BOOM! Taste my nightstick! Sarah, making Shatner sound Shakespearean.)
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To: OldDeckHand; CatOwner

“Firedoglake, a VERY liberal site, has a good running whip count.” It still shows them more than a dozen short, even with Clayburn’s latest additions.”

Great news, thank you for the info.


109 posted on 03/15/2010 11:38:32 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: moose2004
"Are you sure they’re about 12 or so votes down? I sincerely hope you’re right."

Amy I sure? Nope. I really have no idea, personally. But, Firedoglake is a liberal site, and it's also well respected in the conservative community as a site that gets its facts right, although it gets its opinions wrong. My guess is if the vote was closer, that site would reflect it.

I suspect that some of the stories out there showing a trend towards passing this bill are attempting to suppress the opposition with deflating news. It's political psy-ops.

Having said that, whatever the actual number is, it's close. And, when they do bring this to the floor, some people who said they were against will flip - they always do. Whip counts before the vote almost always underestimate the actual vote, by at least a vote or two, FWIW.

110 posted on 03/15/2010 11:38:43 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Lazamataz

Disappointed, but not surprised. These men demonstrate that politicians, as a whole, are hollow men. They are not people of moral character nor courage. In the beginning of this country, politicians and stooges for the monarchy were tared and feathered. I wonder if these hollow men would not benefit from a revival of this practice?


111 posted on 03/15/2010 11:39:04 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: GoldwaterChick
"I presume that means if they use Reconciliation, that’s what the ‘pubs will use.

Remember the Veto. Until Obama is unseated in '12, nothing is getting repealed.

112 posted on 03/15/2010 11:41:14 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Para-Ord.45

ABC is pumping air for BOcare and so is FOX. Pelosi ain’t even got 200 votes yet.

The NOs have 214 already if people stick to their position (216 would kill the bill) The Hill newspaper has the best count IMHO.

178 GOP + 36 RATS = 214 NO votes

Keep fighting


113 posted on 03/15/2010 11:41:29 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: Lazamataz

The ones I would be most concerned about are the ones who originally voted no because it wasn’t left-wing enough. I wouldn’t count on Stupak either, since he and his bunch are basically leftists who happen to be opposed to abortion.


114 posted on 03/15/2010 11:41:29 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: moose2004

If the Democrats do pass this POS, many Americans will wake up. I have democrat friends who are upset with this bill and they aren’t Liberal...This will be a mess for Democrats..


115 posted on 03/15/2010 11:41:31 AM PDT by akapossumdawg (There's three types of people, those that can count and those that cannot...)
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To: Lazamataz; sionnsar
Brian Baird, Lying Dog *ping*





116 posted on 03/15/2010 11:42:33 AM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: Lazamataz

Every name erased at re-election time.


117 posted on 03/15/2010 11:42:34 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: OldDeckHand

“I suspect that some of the stories out there showing a trend towards passing this bill are attempting to suppress the opposition with deflating news. It’s political psy-ops.”

Very well put, thank you again for the info.


118 posted on 03/15/2010 11:43:20 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: Lazamataz
Gordon and Altmire were already counted as Yes votes in CODE RED'S updated list from today.

Baird and Boccieri are switches.

119 posted on 03/15/2010 11:43:56 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Prayers for the Ft. Hood families, victims and soldiers.)
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To: Lazamataz; All
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120 posted on 03/15/2010 11:44:42 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: moose2004

Astroturfing is Obama and Axelrod’s speciality .


121 posted on 03/15/2010 11:45:36 AM PDT by ncalburt (e)
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To: OldDeckHand

“They still need a dozen, perhaps a few more.”

And they are pulling out all the stops to get them. The democrat leadership has staked their very existence on passing a socialist takeover of the health care industry. They are close enough to closing the deal they can smell it. And they don’t have to sway one single Republican. This squabble is all inside the family.

No, they don’t have the votes to pass this monstrosity. Today. But the vote isn’t today.

They will do anything to get to 216 or 217. It will pass.


122 posted on 03/15/2010 11:46:46 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

That which supports ObamaCare will be sterilized and there are no exceptions.


123 posted on 03/15/2010 11:47:30 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Lazamataz

Folks, we all need to understand that we no longer live in a representative democratic republic. This malignant government has been allowed to grow so powerful and so wealthy for so long, that they have now successfully created a protected political ruling class, and BOTH the Dems and the GOP are part of this superclass. They’re not going to give it up.

It doesn’t matter if some of the Dems get voted out in November after they pass Obamacare. They’ll take one for the team and they’ll be rewarded with safe positions in the government bureaucracy.

Our vote no longer really matters. This will not be repealed once enacted. We’re watching the literal destruction of our nation and our own enslavement unfold before our very eyes.


124 posted on 03/15/2010 11:48:05 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Exton1

bttt.


125 posted on 03/15/2010 11:48:27 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Will they be going to his office tomorrow? His political career will crash if he votes yes...and where are they meeting, at his office and which one?


126 posted on 03/15/2010 11:50:19 AM PDT by caww
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

freep mail


127 posted on 03/15/2010 11:50:52 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Prayers for the Ft. Hood families, victims and soldiers.)
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To: Zeddicus

That’s what the French (1788) and Russian (1914) aristocracies thought they had accomplished too. Where are they?


128 posted on 03/15/2010 11:52:09 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: DarthVader

They went down the toilet..


129 posted on 03/15/2010 11:53:23 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (God save America)
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To: OldDeckHand; stephenjohnbanker; CharlesWayneCT; Liz; indylindy; Lazmataz; All
Firedoglake, a VERY liberal site, has a good running whip count. It may be found here. It still shows them more than a dozen short, even with Clayburn's latest additions.

I don't know when Clyburn said he had 4 "new" Yes votes (no source link in this thread), but we already knew Altmire and Gordon were Yes votes, so if Clyburn is correct, that's only +2 Yes.

In the meantime, according to NRCC, the number of No votes has increased +2 to 204 No, 188 Yes. If Clyburn is correct and we add his 2 (not 4) new Yes votes. that would be 204 No, 190 Yes, 37 Undecided.

None of these sources are 100% certain, of course.

http://www.nrcc.org/CodeRed/

http://www.nrcc.org/CodeRed/targets/

130 posted on 03/15/2010 11:53:26 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: greatvikingone

The Hill is not reporting them as changed yet. What is the source?

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WHIP COUNT: House Democrats’ positions on the healthcare reform bill
By The Hill staff - 03/15/10 02:16 PM ET

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/85693-whip-watch-the-hills-survey-of-house-dems-positions-on-healthcare-?sms_ss=twitter


131 posted on 03/15/2010 11:54:38 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Reagan69

Wow
Trememdous idea
I used to just use mny cell but then some staffers got snotty saying they knew I was not a voter in the district.

YOu got ahead of them!!
And PaMom keeps a city and zip in the rep
s district handy.
WE are awesome!


132 posted on 03/15/2010 11:55:19 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Zeddicus

“...they have now successfully created a protected political ruling class, and BOTH the Dems and the GOP are part of this superclass. They’re not going to give it up.”

And the state-run media is part and parcel of same.

And that’s why they all crucify Sarah Palin every chance they get. There is no way they will allow her to upset their apple cart.


133 posted on 03/15/2010 11:55:36 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: GoCards

They didn’t change their minds. They knew all along they would vote for it. They just held out for a bigger bribe.


134 posted on 03/15/2010 11:56:10 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Whenifhow

I Just got thru the Capitol Hill switchboard with ease, which means that we are not lighting up the phones.

Please beg friends and family to call.

202-224-3121


135 posted on 03/15/2010 11:56:20 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

With so many “Undecided” at this point, odds are most will vote YES. We are seeing the fall of America right before our eyes....harder to have hope today.


136 posted on 03/15/2010 11:56:52 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: jersey117
The Ohio rat must have received a bribe. Zero was there today.

Obama: "I'm going to keep coming back until you lose or vote yes."

137 posted on 03/15/2010 11:59:18 AM PDT by IamConservative (Liberty is all a good man needs to succeed.)
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To: Exton1

Nice work...25 out of 37 tells me that this is a done deal knowing the way the Dems operate. It’s over.


138 posted on 03/15/2010 12:00:51 PM PDT by RedneckReb
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To: DarthVader
They are idiots. Do they think they'll be exempt from the same fate as recent democrats who willingly followed Obama off the cliff?

Back to the unemployment line for every one of them.

139 posted on 03/15/2010 12:01:14 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: newfreep

If only 1/3 of the Undecideds vote No it will be close. If the Dems get more than 2/3 it will pass.


140 posted on 03/15/2010 12:02:06 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: DarthVader
That’s what the French (1788) and Russian (1914) aristocracies thought they had accomplished too. Where are they?

Well, they didn't just give up their privilege willingly, now did they? I just don't see how this government can be changed or corrected in any meaningful way by voting. It's not going to happen.

We have very dark, horrible days ahead of us.

141 posted on 03/15/2010 12:02:07 PM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

“I don’t know when Clyburn said he had 4 “new” Yes votes (no source link in this thread), but we already knew Altmire and Gordon were Yes votes, so if Clyburn is correct, that’s only +2 Yes. “

Could it be..........dare I say it...........that Clyburn lied??


142 posted on 03/15/2010 12:02:18 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: GoCards

Yep, Republican weakness has brought us to this day. Remember, less than 2 months ago the GOP invited Obama, of all people, to speak at their retreat. The GOP are the Great Democrat Enablers. Being born with a silver spoon in your mouth makes one really good at such a thing.


143 posted on 03/15/2010 12:04:17 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: Lazamataz

Isn’t CLYBURN the HouseNIC? How else do you keep them down on the Dem. Plantation unless you have one?


144 posted on 03/15/2010 12:05:03 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: Lazamataz

How many of these “yes” votes are really just to get the arm twisting to stop and to get this to a floor vote so that it can be killed? How many are saying yes and will switch to no at the time of the vote? Pelosi will not bring this to the floor until she thinks that she has the votes to pass, so people should not panic when that time comes.


145 posted on 03/15/2010 12:05:47 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: caww

Altmiers short video from Fox News Sunday....said he wanted to see what was in the recociliation...and that is choice is to pass it or do nothing at all.

http://www.altmire.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=579%3Aaltmire-discusses-health-care-reform-on-fox-news-sunday&catid=24&Itemid=1


146 posted on 03/15/2010 12:05:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: Lazamataz
Not to throw cold water on efforts, BUT what makes you think these bozos will go AGAINST the most historical black President ever in the USA? Man-child will do anything to make this monument to himself and to hand the reins of the Fed Govt to the DemocRATS into perpetuity.

When this passes so does the America that you and I grew up in. Didn't man-child campaign on a theme of TRANSFORMING AMERICA? He is living up to his promise - he is very lucky to have Grandnanny Piglosi there running the MARXIST House.
147 posted on 03/15/2010 12:05:57 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Maybe Pelosi got mad at him for what he said yesterday about not having all the votes. They have been using that clip all day.


148 posted on 03/15/2010 12:06:07 PM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I hope you’re right but I tend to think the “Undecideds” are the ones holding out for a bigger bribe or waiting to see if the ‘rats need their NO vote.


149 posted on 03/15/2010 12:07:06 PM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Lazamataz

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/09/policy-change-abortion-radical/

Q: Don’t abortion opponents have other concerns about the bill?

A: A major one has to do with $11 billion that Obama wants to pump into community health centers serving low-income people and the uninsured.

As the bill is currently written, those funds are not explicitly covered by the Hyde amendment.

White House health overhaul spokeswoman Linda Douglass says Obama is willing to clarify the language.

(So $10 billion is going to Vermont for “community health centers.” Does this mean American taxpayers will be funding abortions ONLY in Vermont?)


150 posted on 03/15/2010 12:07:27 PM PDT by rosettasister
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