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U.S. vows FBI help after Mexico killings
Reuters ^ | 03/16/10 | Andrew Quinn

Posted on 03/15/2010 11:26:28 PM PDT by OldDeckHand

State Dept says consulate closed for security review

U.S. says too early to say if diplomats targeted

U.S. in for long haul in Mexico's anti-drug fight

WASHINGTON, March 15 (Reuters) - The United States pledged support for Mexico on Monday in its war against drug gangs as the FBI joined the investigation of the murders of two Americans and a Mexican linked to the U.S. consulate in a violent border city.

"The tragedy of this weekend just underscores how severe and significant a danger this represents to Mexico, to the United States, to the hemisphere," State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley told a news briefing.

"We all share that determination that ultimately, through a variety of means, we will take back these streets one community at a time."

U.S. President Barack Obama on Sunday voiced outrage over the murders, part of a surge in drug-related violence along the U.S.-Mexico border that has alarmed Washington.

(Excerpt) Read more at alertnet.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; comingtoyourtown; consulate; deadamericans; drugs; drugwars; immigration; mexico; murder; narcoterror; wot
"U.S. says too early to say if diplomats targeted"

Have they all lost their minds? Of course they were targeted.

1 posted on 03/15/2010 11:26:28 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

I would do a lot more than just send FBI help. I would say “Killing our consulate people is an act of war!” and if the Mexican govt. wasn’t in a position to help, send in the SEALs.


2 posted on 03/15/2010 11:31:50 PM PDT by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: OldDeckHand
"We all share that determination that ultimately, through a variety of means, we will take back these streets one community at a time."

Funny they don't react this way when ordinary American citizens are killed on their own streets by Mexican illegal aliens.

3 posted on 03/15/2010 11:38:29 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile

Irony of ironies.


4 posted on 03/15/2010 11:40:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: coydog

We need to close all our consulates and bring all the U.S. citizens back to the U.S. Then shut down the friggin border - if necessary by putting a member of the armed military every 50 feet and let no one cross again. Then start a sweep for illegals on the northern border and send them and all their drugs back across the border. Just how long do we have to put up with the stupidity of our own government.


5 posted on 03/15/2010 11:41:55 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: All

Wonder how Chavez will respond to our new ‘vow’?


6 posted on 03/15/2010 11:42:16 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: americanophile

Funny they don’t react this way when ordinary American citizens are killed on their own streets by Mexican illegal aliens.
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That’s the sad truth you typed there.


7 posted on 03/15/2010 11:43:32 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: americanophile

And why is Bummer & Co. caring suddenly about the carnage to one Mexican when thousands have perished elsewhere in Mexico over this mad war?

We don’t need the FBI. We need the whole damn Marine Corps (which is not pronounced corpse).


8 posted on 03/15/2010 11:43:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: OldDeckHand

More “outrage” from the Commander in Thief?

Oops.. better be careful what I say, or it might be lese majeste.


9 posted on 03/15/2010 11:51:13 PM PDT by ketelone
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To: OldDeckHand

But...it’s racism to protect our borders...I would hate to see Europe protesting and calling us names again../s


10 posted on 03/15/2010 11:56:13 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"And why is Bummer & Co. caring suddenly about the carnage to one Mexican when thousands have perished elsewhere in Mexico over this mad war?"

The LA Times had a piece over the weekend that said that 18,000 Mexicans have been killed since 2006 in this latest bloom of drug-related violence. 18K of course dwarfs all of our casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan and on 9/11 since 9/11. Keep in mind, Mexico is also only a third of our size, so 18K there would be close to 54,000 here. IOW, Mexico has a HUGE problem on their hands that isn't going away anytime soon.

11 posted on 03/16/2010 12:12:29 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Grams A
[. . .shut down the friggin border. . .]

The economic disruption for Mexico would be so severe they would be forced to destroy the cartels. When Mexico was slow to respond to Nixon he ordered every inbound vehicle at border crossings stopped and searched. This got Mexico's attention real fast.

12 posted on 03/16/2010 12:36:12 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The US was better respected then.


13 posted on 03/16/2010 12:50:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Grams A

Agree completely, Grams A.

Why in hell is the State Dept. still allowing students and other Americans to go to Mexico for Spring break? Why are dumb American parents allowing their kids to go there? Why are dumb American citizens continuing to cross the border into Mexico every day?

Gov. Perry (R-TX) has asked for more National Guard assistance to support the Border Patrol’s pathetic efforts on the Texas border to stem the tide of illegal aliens and drugs. As far as I know, the Obama administration hasn’t even given him a response. He did use the Texas Rangers a couple of years ago to help the Border Patrol (Operation Backup).

Targeting and killing American State Dept. personnel in Mexico should trigger rapid response talks with the Mexican government that would permit US military into the country to wipe out the drug cartels. The Mexican government obviously can’t handle the situation because so many police and military personnel are being paid by the cartels.

I’m all for closing the borders for a time and declaring a free fire zone where our guys can eliminate anyone who enters. The PC crowd has handcuffed our Border Patrol agents with restrictions and made them targets of the criminals. ....I don’t give a damn about the impact on the commerce of various goods, fruits and vegetables between the countries via trucking; I’m more concerned about the drugs, guns, gangs and other illegal aliens who have significantly increased the crime rates in the US.

Rant over, but it felt good to get it out. ......octex


14 posted on 03/16/2010 12:56:02 AM PDT by octex
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To: HiTech RedNeck

[The US was better respected then.]

The US was better respected 18 months ago.


15 posted on 03/16/2010 1:23:51 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Okay, here’s a HUGE problem I have with this. I am tired of the false and logically unsound argument that “US gun laws are arming the cartels.”

You can’t buy RPGs at a gun store. You can’t buy a full-auto AK-47 with an under-mounted grenade launcher from a gun show.

And more to the point, how come nobody has connected the dots and pointed out that MEXICO’s restrictive gun laws prevent citizens from defending themselves? This is ridiculous. President Calderon seems to be a good guy and much less corrupt than Fox and Zedillo, but he has a HUGE mess to deal with. An unarmed citizenry is one of the problems.


16 posted on 03/16/2010 1:55:08 AM PDT by ksm1
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To: OldDeckHand
Well, uh, just some random thoughts here.

The press and the government are quick to characterize the assailants as members of Mexican drug cartels, or gangs.

What if the victims were targeted because they represent what the United States stands for and once the deed was done, the assailants exchanged their sombreros for turbans?

Yep, what if this was an act of (this word is officially banned by the Obama administration) terrorism conducted by agents of Al Queda?

17 posted on 03/16/2010 2:03:26 AM PDT by Texas Jack (A politician is an elected official whose primary goal is to enrich him/herself while appearing to r)
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To: Texas Jack; All

Hmm...possible, but al-Qaeda or other Muslim groups would be going way far out of their way to attack the Juarez consulate. If they wanted to kill Americans, it seems to me like the embassies in Lebanon, Pakistan, Egypt, or Iraq would be more likely targets.

By the way, and this is why I’m pinging All, does anyone know if the Minutemen are still active? I tried doing a Google search and got like 5 different groups, and I’m not sure how any of them are related. The websites also look pretty out of date. If I’m going to donate to this, I want to make sure it’s going to people who have their act together...some of these websites don’t look very professional, they mean well probably, but I want to make sure they are legit with their business


18 posted on 03/16/2010 2:07:01 AM PDT by ksm1
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To: OldDeckHand

If these Mexican gangsters don’t shape up pretty soon President O’Bow-Mao might just not give them their amnesty. In fact if he really gets mad he might even give them the bird! And then gobble down another booger when no one’s looking!!


19 posted on 03/16/2010 2:25:33 AM PDT by Blado (Quo Warranto, Bambi?)
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To: americanophile

and Obama and his merry men want to grant these same drug cartels amnesty in the United States.


20 posted on 03/16/2010 4:49:54 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: OldDeckHand

This should be the lead story on all news outlets.


21 posted on 03/16/2010 6:30:01 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: octex; Brad

Re closing border - too bad we have no support from our Senators. Recd letter from Cornyn asking for campaign donation and decrying red ink in Washington but not one word about all the illegals and drugs that are overrunning Texas and our Country. He and KBH both need to go! Everybody knows BO isn’t going to do squat about Mexico except maybe send them more of our tax money.


22 posted on 03/16/2010 7:17:30 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: OldDeckHand; All

We were warned!

As if the murder of our government representatives last weekend in Mexico wasn’t enough.

Congressman Warns Mexico More Dangerous than Iraq, Could Become Failed State
Wednesday, March 25, 2009

[snips]At a House of Representatives hearing on federal law enforcement’s response to the violence along the border between the United States and Mexico, Rep. John Culberson (R-Texas) said there is more danger in that region than in the Middle East.

“Mexico is more dangerous than Iraq,” Culberson said. “There were more deaths in Mexico than there were in Iraq.”

The per capita rate of civilian killings in the Mexican border city in 2008 was nearly three-and-a-half times (3.4) as great as the per capita rate of civilian killings in the Iraqi province of Baghdad

That means people are at greater risk in Juarez than in Baghdad province.

In fact, CNSNews.com has calculated that approximately 113 per 100,000 people were killed by violence in Juarez, while in Baghdad about 33 per 100,000 civilians shared the same fate.

“Yet the testimony that this committee’s received, that we have on Homeland Security – many members of this committee are also on the Homeland Security Committee – the U.S. military has ranked the Mexican government, the Pakistani government and the Afghan government as the three most unstable, potentially likely to collapse governments in the world,” Culberson said.

“The level of violence we’re seeing in Mexico certainly has to be qualified essentially as a civil war,” he said. “The level of violence is unprecedented.”

Culberson also questioned the Drug Enforcement Agency’s (DEA) definition of “spillover,” as when drug cartels or gangs target Americans or American assets.

“In Houston, Texas, in broad daylight, we had a machine-gun fight at one of the biggest intersections in southwest Houston,” Culberson said. “A machine-gun battle between two human smugglers. They’re trying to kill each other. That’s not counted as spillover because they are shooting at each other and it’s not a deliberate attack on U.S. civilians.”

“Those bullets weren’t hitting each other, those bullets were flying everywhere,” Culberson said.

http://www.cnsnews.com/PUBLIC/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=45583


23 posted on 03/16/2010 8:20:30 AM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: ksm1

“Okay, here’s a HUGE problem I have with this. I am tired of the false and logically unsound argument that “US gun laws are arming the cartels.””

Our friends from NAFBPO often relate news items from Mexico showing many of these arms are coming in from China and elsewhere.

On FR, look under Keyword: NAFBPO


24 posted on 03/16/2010 8:23:25 AM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: ksm1; Ladycalif

“By the way, and this is why I’m pinging All, does anyone know if the Minutemen are still active? I tried doing a Google search and got like 5 different groups, and I’m not sure how any of them are related. The websites also look pretty out of date. If I’m going to donate to this, I want to make sure it’s going to people who have their act together...some of these websites don’t look very professional, they mean well probably, but I want to make sure they are legit with their business”

The groups have become fragmented, largely due to false publicity. I’m pinging LadyCalif, she may know the active ones, like near Campo.


25 posted on 03/16/2010 8:25:35 AM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: Mercat

“This should be the lead story on all news outlets.”

I was stunned to see CBS gave this good coverage last night.
They even talked about the 5 beheadings in Alcapulco the same day our citizens were slaughtered. One diplomat actually said, ‘this was an act of terrorism’.

But I cannot find one congressman who has spoken out on this.


26 posted on 03/16/2010 8:28:16 AM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: AuntB

We, the Campo Minutemen are still active in Campo, CA. Kingfish is there 5 nights a week.


27 posted on 03/16/2010 9:14:41 AM PDT by Ladycalif ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus)
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To: Ladycalif

Check this out....Mexicans don’t want US meddling in their affairs!

About the murders in Mexico:

“Analysts seem to think this is a message the killers are sending to US and foreign officials, saying that they don’t want them here - they don’t want any meddling.[snip]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2472183/posts?page=14#14


28 posted on 03/16/2010 12:52:53 PM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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