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Health care foes 11 votes shy of defeating bill
CNN ^ | March 16, 2010 | Charles Riley and Jeff Simon

Posted on 03/16/2010 4:23:33 PM PDT by americanophile

Washington (CNN) -- Five more House Democrats said Tuesday that they will vote against Senate health care legislation, which puts opponents of reform just 11 votes shy of the 216 needed to prevent President Obama from scoring a major victory on his top domestic priority.

An ongoing CNN analysis shows that opposition in the House to the Senate health care plan has reached 205 members.

A total of 27 House Democrats, including nine who supported the House plan in November, have indicated that they would join a unified Republican caucus in opposing the Senate plan, which passed in that chamber December 24 with the minimum required 60 votes.

Nonetheless, House Democratic Caucus Chairman John Larson of Connecticut said Monday after a meeting with rank-and-file Democrats that "the votes are there" to pass the health care bill.

Among at least 27 Democrats who will vote against the bill is Rep. Mike McIntyre of North Carolina, who confirmed his opposition Monday.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2takelibertyaway; 2taketheconstitution; 2takevotingaway; 4thecommongood; healthcare; northcarolina; obamacare; opposition; votes
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Let's hear it for "opponents of reform"! Go Party of No!
1 posted on 03/16/2010 4:23:33 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile

Hannity’s count shows Dems 15 votes shy of passing their stink burger of a bill.


2 posted on 03/16/2010 4:26:35 PM PDT by MissesBush
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To: americanophile

I am sick to my stomach. I want this nightmare week TO END. I want to wake up and it’s morning in America again.


3 posted on 03/16/2010 4:28:20 PM PDT by parisa
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To: americanophile

“Health Care foes ...”

No bias there.


4 posted on 03/16/2010 4:29:06 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Personally I liked “opponents of reform.”


5 posted on 03/16/2010 4:29:44 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile

I see CNN is “Deeming” 0bummerCare passed too.


6 posted on 03/16/2010 4:30:54 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Deem-ocrat fascists oppose constitutional democracy)
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To: americanophile

None of this matters if they deem the senate bill passed. Those who are coming out against the bill are just providing themselves cover at election time. They can say they were against passgae. This is just a game.


7 posted on 03/16/2010 4:31:01 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: americanophile

Big victory for Obama? I don’t think so. He really screwed himself with this one.

But if they are going to pass the bill, I would rather they do it with the “deem and pass” strategy so that it will be completely illegitimate.


8 posted on 03/16/2010 4:31:14 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: MissesBush

Ah, Don’t worry the Marxist will deem it through and the new taxes will cause a total economic meltdown.


9 posted on 03/16/2010 4:32:23 PM PDT by Rodm
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To: Trust but Verify

Flatly unconstitutional.


10 posted on 03/16/2010 4:33:04 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile
which puts opponents of reform just 11 votes shy of the 216 needed to prevent President Obama from scoring a major victory on his top domestic priority.

And people wonder why Editors are being laid off at the nation's top newspapers. What was this buffoon trying to say? Is Obama short just 11 votes? Is Obama 11 votes short of those needed to prevent him from losing? Yes, we have no bananas? Can I be an editor, or do I need to undergo a lobotomy first?

English ... learn it, live it and for God's sake; please learn to speak it.

11 posted on 03/16/2010 4:33:07 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

Well, when you have to write something entirely in the negative, that’s what you get.


12 posted on 03/16/2010 4:34:03 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile

Pelosi is selling fig leaves with the Slaugher rule.

Somehow they will be able to hide.


13 posted on 03/16/2010 4:34:19 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: americanophile

Or how their motivation was “to prevent President Obama from scoring a major victory on his top domestic priority.”

And those three were just the introductory paragraph!

CNN, what a sad joke.


14 posted on 03/16/2010 4:36:11 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Rodm

Obama’s probably going to deem himself King of America.


15 posted on 03/16/2010 4:36:58 PM PDT by MissesBush
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To: americanophile
Seems like a bill that will guarantee immense and continuing numbers of unborn deaths *should be* deemed under the assistance of a woman named Slaughter. If you were writing a movie, people would be rolling their eyes over the absurdity. And yet, it's true. Satan laughing his claws off yet?

Not so quickly, Evil One; St. Michael the Archangel, pray for US!
16 posted on 03/16/2010 4:37:37 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: parisa

........I want this nightmare week TO END. I want to wake up and it’s morning in America again........

That’s what the want. You are ready to give up and submit


17 posted on 03/16/2010 4:37:38 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: americanophile
House Democratic Caucus Chairman John Larson of Connecticut said Monday after a meeting with rank-and-file Democrats that "the votes are there" to pass the health care bill.

But they're NOT going to pass it! They're going to bypass the Constitution by simply deeming it "passed" and sending it to "Hugo Chavez" Obama to sign it. A total subversion of the democratic process and a mockery of the rule of law. God help us all!
18 posted on 03/16/2010 4:37:59 PM PDT by Deo volente (Health care reform is not a bad idea in itself, but this Bill is a terrible "solution".)
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To: americanophile
House Democratic Caucus Chairman John Larson of Connecticut said Monday after a meeting with rank-and-file Democrats that "the votes are there"

He's just gotta find 'em.

19 posted on 03/16/2010 4:38:11 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: americanophile
A total of 27 House Democrats, including nine who supported the House plan in November, have indicated that they would join a unified Republican caucus in opposing the Senate plan, which passed in that chamber December 24 with the minimum required 60 votes.

I hope these 27 House Democrats will stick to their guns. They have the opportunity to show that a sliver (a mere smidgeon numerically) of democrats will truly represent the will of their constituents and stand tall for keeping America's financial burden under close scrutiny and concern. If they do, they should be applauded for it!

Americans in every state of the union are watching them and praying the healthcare bill is not passed. Everyone agrees steps must be taken to confront problems with it, but NOT this bill and not NOW when so many other problems affect our nation and its stability and standing in the world.

20 posted on 03/16/2010 4:38:18 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: americanophile

Don’t let up now!!! Do not let up until it is DEAD. Dead dead dead dead dead. Until then, KEEP HITING IT!


21 posted on 03/16/2010 4:39:02 PM PDT by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Deo volente

I wonder what it will take to get people into the streets. You would think that ‘deeming’ legislation to have passes would do it, but I guess not.


22 posted on 03/16/2010 4:39:15 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile

I heartily agree, but that won’t stop them.


23 posted on 03/16/2010 4:39:55 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: longtermmemmory

You are correct.


24 posted on 03/16/2010 4:40:30 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: Hodar

I’m glad I am not the only one who don’t know what he was trying to say.


25 posted on 03/16/2010 4:40:59 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: americanophile

Rush made a personal plea to people today and gave out #s to the DC switchboard.What if those who are still registered as rats due to Rush`s “Operation Chaos” and had rat Reps were to call them and, acting as disgruntled rats, demand that they not vote for this bill?They could say that they`ll not only switch parties but volunteer to work for the Repubs during the Nov elections.


26 posted on 03/16/2010 4:45:17 PM PDT by nomad
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To: americanophile

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“Opponents of reform”?


27 posted on 03/16/2010 4:46:35 PM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory; it is better to perish than to live a slave)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

That’s right, we “health care foes” are against health care.

Do you think there’s a remote chance they even considered titling the article, “Government takeover foes 11 votes shy . . .”???


28 posted on 03/16/2010 4:47:12 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: americanophile
PLEASE VISIT THIS LINK AND FILL OUT THE FORM - IT WILL SEND AN EMAIL TO ALL 58 'BLUE DOGS' AND FENCESITTERS AT ONCE, OPPOSING THIS SH*T HEALTH TAKEOVER.

http://www.capitolconnect.com/freeourhealthcarenow/default.aspx

29 posted on 03/16/2010 4:47:47 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I would buy an “Opponent of Reform” shirt.


30 posted on 03/16/2010 4:48:54 PM PDT by Ueriah
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To: americanophile
If the rats had the Votes this would be law by now...

This has to be the most poorly written news report I have ever seen...


31 posted on 03/16/2010 4:49:40 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: annieokie

Want to hear some confusing double speak, if you can find the audio of Hannity’s interview with Jason Altmire today. The meme today from the cowards is, “Waiting to hear from the CBO”, “Waiting to hear from my constituents.” Altimre actually said that, with a straight face. I would have done a Beck at the end of that interview..”People I have wasted your time...”.


32 posted on 03/16/2010 4:49:55 PM PDT by pburgh01
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I heard that, and that's exactly what I thought Hannity would say. "I'm sorry I wasted your time"

Excellent catch.

33 posted on 03/16/2010 4:58:03 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: americanophile
Nonetheless, House Democratic Caucus Chairman John Larson of Connecticut said Monday after a meeting with rank-and-file Democrats that "the votes are there" to pass the health care bill.

Larson is my Rep. He's a flaming socialist liar. He's fourth in line in the House and Pelosi's yes man. I've been letting him know in no uncertain terms via calls and emails he's traitor to the country and the people will defend the Constitution against him and his fellow socialists.
34 posted on 03/16/2010 5:00:32 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: MissesBush
here's the best runnning count totals i've seen

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2010/03/counting_the_heads_of_house_de.html

35 posted on 03/16/2010 5:07:53 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (3V3Ry71N' 084M4 D03z 83N3f17Z MU5l1mz. c01NC1d3nc3?)
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To: americanophile

‘Personally I liked “opponents of reform.”’

RAT press = socialist bigots


36 posted on 03/16/2010 5:10:22 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: nomad
What if those who are still registered as rats due to Rush`s “Operation Chaos” and had rat Reps were to call them and, acting as disgruntled rats, demand that they not vote for this bill?They could say that they`ll not only switch parties but volunteer to work for the Repubs during the Nov elections.

An excellent idea. But no one really has to be a registered rat to do it. Lying to members of congress is ok. We will just call it "acting" and become the "artists" that Pelosi encouraged the other day.

37 posted on 03/16/2010 5:12:18 PM PDT by lovesdogs
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To: Retired Greyhound

“Big victory for Obama? I don’t think so. He really screwed himself with this one.”

The CNN article says it with such a sing song voice too - like there’s no ramifications to the huge tax increases and takeover of the system, by the inept, incompetent, corrupt RATS...oh no, just ‘Obama’s top domestic priority.’

They live in an alternate universe...I wish they’d stay there.


38 posted on 03/16/2010 5:12:24 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: lovesdogs

“Lying to members of congress is ok. We will just call it “acting” and become the “artists” that Pelosi encouraged the other day.”

First of all - they lie to us from the moment the wake, til the moment they sleep, and then probably in their dreams.

2nd: We can just ‘deem’ it not lying.

Walah!

Honestly - I don’t think we need to lie - but the RATS live in such an Orwellian world - and we have to deal with them, and that.


39 posted on 03/16/2010 5:14:59 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773 & pray 2 Chronicles 7:14!)
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To: Deo volente

But they have to vote on the rule which allows them to declare the “Senate bill was deemed to have been passed”. The demoRATs dimwits can spin it all they want, but they and the people know that this is a farce, and that the “rule” change was in fact the House voting on the bill. Every demoRAT who says so differently if a rat bastard pig liar....including the politicians & the demoRAT voters.


40 posted on 03/16/2010 5:16:40 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: parisa

We have another 3 years of this nightmare.


41 posted on 03/16/2010 5:17:34 PM PDT by counterpunch (The Emperor has no Cloture)
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To: americanophile
The lady on O'reilly had the tally at 212-219.

I think she writes for The Hill.

42 posted on 03/16/2010 5:18:17 PM PDT by hercuroc
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Here’s some Code: ”For only the second time in American history, I have given out the Capitol Hill Switchboard number, and I’m urging everybody to call and ramp it up, ratchet up the pressure.” • Call the Capitol Switchboard: 877-762-8762 or 202-224-3121 • Code Red: Click Here for List of Targeted Congressmen
43 posted on 03/16/2010 5:22:28 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: americanophile

I prefer “opponents of health care DEform”


44 posted on 03/16/2010 5:23:33 PM PDT by Purrcival (Proud to share my birthday with President Reagan)
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To: americanophile

EndGame for this thing.


45 posted on 03/16/2010 5:24:27 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: bert
You are ready to give up and submit

NEVER!

If this boondoggle piece of garbage passes our national nightmare is just beginning. I want morning in America. I want these miscreants defeated and quashed. That's my morning in America.

46 posted on 03/16/2010 5:25:23 PM PDT by parisa
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To: americanophile

http://www.capitolconnect.com/freeourhealthcarenow/default.aspx


47 posted on 03/16/2010 5:26:50 PM PDT by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: americanophile
RATS in the House are hereby put on notice...they have *far* less to fear from Bella Pelosi & Friends than they do from the voters next November.The RAT leadership is *perfectly* willing to see their “back bench” brothers and sisters go down in flames in November.The question is...how many “back benchers” are willing to enter into a suicide pact with their leadership knowing that only *they* will be casualties?
48 posted on 03/16/2010 5:27:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: counterpunch
2 years and ten months... sounds even better, and only 2 year and 7 months until we know who is going to replace the zero :)

Pray that all the baby killers on the Supreme Court can hang on that long ! So they can be replaced with someone who will end the worst genocide in human history.

49 posted on 03/16/2010 5:32:24 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: americanophile

If the votes are there then take the vote. Why all this talk about the Slaughter Rule?


50 posted on 03/16/2010 5:35:48 PM PDT by HarleyD
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