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Posted on 03/16/2010 5:13:53 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
Holder: Osama bin Laden won't be brought in alive By: Josh Gerstein March 16, 2010 05:28 PM EDT
Attorney General Eric Holder told a congressional panel Tuesday that the question of reading Osama bin Laden his Miranda rights is absurd because he wont be brought in alive.
Lets deal with reality, Holder said. Youre talking about a hypothetical that will never occur. We will be reading Miranda rights to the corpse of Obama bin Laden. He will never appear in an American courtroom. Thats the reality .He will be killed by us or he will be killed by his own people, so hes not captured by us. We know that.
Holders comments came during a hearing where Holder and a Republican congressman debated whether bin Laden and notorious killer Charles Manson deserved the same legal rights.
During a House appropriations subcommittee hearing, Holder invoked Manson to counter Republican arguments that the administration wanted to stage civilian trials that would give alleged 9/11 plotters the same Constitutional rights afforded to the average American.
These defendants, many of whom are charged with murder, would be treated just like any other murder defendants, Holder said with evident exasperation. The comparison .the question is: Are they being treated the way any other murderer would be? They have the same rights Charles Manson would have.
While Holder thought the Manson comparison would make Americans feel more comfortable with the idea of civilian trials for terrorism suspects, Rep. John Culberson (R-Texas) disagreed and sensed an opening.
Osama bin Laden, in your opinion, has the same rights as Charles Manson? a dubious Culberson asked.
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Yeah, and the Dems thought Saddam Hussein would not be brought in alive either.
A misdirection, and not even a very clever one.
He won’t ever be brought in.
“Speak softly and carry a big stick” has turned into “Talk S**t and carry a feather.”
They will have to dig all of the rock off of him at Tora Bora first.
So...Holder is now the tough guy after playing the ACLU puss for a year ?
I thought we weren’t talking about Massa and the Democrat “tickle fights” anymore......LOL
Bush got pummelled for saying “dead or alive”. This crew gets a pass for saying “dead or deader”. This is of course absurd coming from an administration that thinks waterboarding is torture - like we are supposed to believe they will kill Osama. Clinton had the chance and blinked
When will Eric Holder be “brought in”?
Its a low risk routine at that, especially because OBL has been dead for years.
First PROVE that Osama *is* alive.
Affirmative action marxist.
Manson didn’t have the right to subpoena classified information.
In a round about way, Holder is saying its better for us to not take these guys prisoner. Bin Ladin isn’t going to turn our system into a mockery, not because we’ll handle it in Guantanamo with a military hangman, not because Holder knows how to properly handle such a trial, but because we won’t take him alive. While probably true, it evades the question. Obviously, he’s saying to avoid a public kangaroo trial for Khalid Sheik Mohammed, to avoid letting Holder’s band of clowns try him, we ought to have killed him where we found him.
Holder is admitting that he has no business being AG.
Has Osama hired Holder to speak for him?
I have thought for a long time that Osama bin Laden is dead.
Exactly. The Obamists spent the last 8 years complaining about Guantanamo and military tribunals. And now we find that their solution is to not take prisoners.
Dang. If only they had said that from the beginning.
So he’s talking assassination squads? (half sarcastically)
Wobering what the DOPE would say about Saddam Hussein before he was caught “ALIVE” and pleaded for Mercy like the Coward he was???? Mr. Holder never stops demonstrating his total lack of “Common Sense!” Bet the DOPE would have said the same thing about KSM before he was taken alive too! Now the DOPE wants to give KSM a Show Trial in Manhattan right next to his Atrocities!
Barry said that he would capture Bin. Film at 11.
My opinion exactly... and for the reasons that you stated. He's AG, not CENTCOM. He doesn't get to make those decisions, but he must be prepared if circumstances hand him OBL alive & on a platter. He's admitting he has no policy worth spit concerning the trial of an enemy mastermind.
Is there a difference between Holder being hired by Osama or being hired by Obama?? The names and their actions and Hatred for America seem to differ very little...:-)
And isn't this "Cowboy" speak? You know, "Bring 'em on", (ironically, from an ineffectual administration that extends apologies and deadlines as a means of projecting weakness)?
Since Bin Laden is already dead and has been for years I think Holder is on to something.
Will this officially make Osama bin Laden a Corpseman?
Bin (part/son of) La (not) Din (prounounced ‘deen’)
Last 3 words of the sura of the ‘Clot’ that is Sura #1.
So, ‘not of those who have gone astray’ (as in a purist of the faith).
So, Slaughter Deem might be a variation of the proununciation, no? to Bin La Deem the passage of health care? The words we need to hear are being spoken to a different audience.
That’s because the pri** is already dead, and has been for years, anyone who thinks otherwise has no brain or is incapable of using it.
Its ok to kill him, just don’t waterboard him.
He’s dead Jim.
This is what affrmative action and political correctness get you....
Bin = son
La = to, for
Din = judgment.
Son of judgment.
If I were an Obama administration official, I’d sure as hell be looking at a way to avoid giving credit to the Bush administration for taking out Bin Ladin. Holder’s statement reeks of setup for the story they’ll eventually be using.
Bin = Ben in Hebrew
I learned la as a negative, as in la illh’u’llah’u’la. “There is no god but God.” etc.
Din as ‘judgment’ gone astray/judgment. OK.
They’re still the last 3 words. Din as judgment works well into the English ‘Deem’, too, since’s it’s unilateral.
So...let me see...Holden, all of a sudden, possess the uncanny ability to foresee the future, while in his own words he does not deny the possibility of reading the Miranda to bin Laden.
Beam me up Scotty!
Should have noticed it...Dammit!
Well! Waterboarding is obviously Torture since every Greek Fraternity and Sorority does it to their Pledges, at least to a Lib’s sick demented mind, but its fine in their mind if a Jihadist cuts off Our Citizen’s Genitals, then their arms and tongue while raping them because obviously they wouldn’t do it unless we must have looked crosseyed at them or something. Reverend Wright, OBOZO, and Farrakkon have made that painfully clear to all of us good honest Americans!
This statement is tantamount to asserting that the government of the United States will santion Bin Laden’s assination. They screeched about this for decades. Duplicitous bastards.
Because Osama is already dead and has been for many years.
Yes, he has.
Well, we will kill him. We are too humane to Waterboard him.
LOL at these Affirmative Action Jacksons
They’ve so boxed themselves into a corner . .
Some “lawyers” ROFL
It doesn't take a fickin' genius to figure out he is dead, only a willingness to look at the few facts available, big facts.
As I said, I used my brain and figured it out. Don't want to admit he is dead? That's your business, but he is dead.
If it was 'a mistake' not to have used American troops, then it was a mistake that was 'baked into' the initial operational plan for the takedown of the Taliban. Recall that this was done primarily by using the Northern Alliance as the infantry, backed up by SpecOps and Airpower. The 10th Mountain was just getting on the ground in Afghanistan and hadn't had time to acclimatize to the altitude. Add to the fact that the Tora Bora complex would have taken considerably more troops than were then available to complete the cordon. Simple fact is that we couldn't have done it if we had wanted to because there just weren't the troops.
My first thought on this, plain.
Where is the old school media calling him a cowboy?
I cannot believe that the Holder Justice department is so short-sighted as to not have considered this plausible scenario. I guess that leads to the logical conclusion that they may want to free these "freedom fighters". This is legal malpractice of the highest form, or even worse, outright collusion with an enemy we are at war with.
Good point, I agree with you. This is why a love Free Republic, it really is a treasure trove of not only conservative thought, but CORRECT thought. LOL
Hey, what do you think about all this talk of Osama Bin Laden being dead. Though I would not be one bit surprised, some people sure are certain of his demise.